Posted by OngBok:
Funny how GUNS didn't show his face on this thread ! 
lol... Oh he will be back when he has a decent game again !
Guns?! Im surprised Briggs hasn't posted in this thread, and its running to its second page already!
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by OngBok:
Funny how GUNS didn't show his face on this thread ! lol... Oh he will be back when he has a decent game again !
Guns?! Im surprised Briggs hasn't posted in this thread, and its running to its second page already!
I'll say it again. I'll take 16 & 2 from a 17yr old with greater upside than 16 & 3 from someone who spent 4 whole years in college but thats all I'm gonna say right now to avoid another arguement
BDG: What have you been doing personally to work on your conditioning and strength?
Butler: You know, just field work. Working on the track, lifting, working on my agility, just trying to get ready.
Caron also commented on Andrew Bynum and the potential he possesses.
“I think he’d be an asset immediately because he’s so big and athletic,” Butler said, “He really understands the game. I actually saw him in a workout and we were so excited just seeing him. He did so many things. His intangibles to the game are just unbelieveable. He’s so athletic. His shot-blocking timing is great and he’s a hell of a player so I’m excited to have him
Posted by BRIGGS:
BDG: What have you been doing personally to work on your conditioning and strength?
Butler: You know, just field work. Working on the track, lifting, working on my agility, just trying to get ready.
Caron also commented on Andrew Bynum and the potential he possesses.
“I think he’d be an asset immediately because he’s so big and athletic,” Butler said, “He really understands the game. I actually saw him in a workout and we were so excited just seeing him. He did so many things. His intangibles to the game are just unbelieveable. He’s so athletic. His shot-blocking timing is great and he’s a hell of a player so I’m excited to have him
Caron should start worrying about himself and find out why teams now want to move him so much and how he help his game out.
Posted by BRIGGS:
BDG: What have you been doing personally to work on your conditioning and strength?
Butler: You know, just field work. Working on the track, lifting, working on my agility, just trying to get ready.
Caron also commented on Andrew Bynum and the potential he possesses.
“I think he’d be an asset immediately because he’s so big and athletic,” Butler said, “He really understands the game. I actually saw him in a workout and we were so excited just seeing him. He did so many things. His intangibles to the game are just unbelieveable. He’s so athletic. His shot-blocking timing is great and he’s a hell of a player so I’m excited to have him
sounds like Zeke talking about Frye. everyone is going to talk up their own players. And Butler and Bynum have the Uconn connection anyway, so they're homies twice over.
Did Bynum and Frye ever workout vs each other before the draft???
Posted by BRIGGS:
BDG: What have you been doing personally to work on your conditioning and strength?
Butler: You know, just field work. Working on the track, lifting, working on my agility, just trying to get ready.
Caron also commented on Andrew Bynum and the potential he possesses.
“I think he’d be an asset immediately because he’s so big and athletic,” Butler said, “He really understands the game. I actually saw him in a workout and we were so excited just seeing him. He did so many things. His intangibles to the game are just unbelieveable. He’s so athletic. His shot-blocking timing is great and he’s a hell of a player so I’m excited to have him
Did you expect him to say "Damn, I wish we had Bogut!!!!!!"? lol You're funny Briggs.
Bynum tonight
6-10/12 pts 10 reb 2 steals 2 blocks 2 assits
the guy who kept the stats for the lakerground forum said bynum had 4 assits and 5 blocks
the guy just has been unbelievable for his age. As much as i thought hed be good, I really did not expect this type of consistent play so quickly. Even Rambis said tonight that he is all but locked to be in the core bench of the nBA team. That is in a week, last week they thought he wouldnt see daylight. he isnt scoring 20-24 points, but now I believe he could he shooting 58% through 4 games
Now its just to D&M bad he didnt go to UC for a year because if he did, we were locks to win.
Posted by BRIGGS:
Bynum tonight
6-10/12 pts 10 reb 2 steals 2 blocks 2 assits
the guy who kept the stats for the lakerground forum said bynum had 4 assits and 5 blocks
the guy just has been unbelievable for his age. As much as i thought hed be good, I really did not expect this type of consistent play so quickly. Even Rambis said tonight that he is all but locked to be in the core bench of the nBA team. That is in a week, last week they thought he wouldnt see daylight. he isnt scoring 20-24 points, but now I believe he could he shooting 58% through 4 games
Now its just to D&M bad he didnt go to UC for a year because if he did, we were locks to win.
Bravo!!!!!!!!!! He finally reached double didgets in rebounds! I'm impressed. Can you list who's been guarding him? Has he faced Howard or Okafur yet? Either one would do for to get a fair accessment. I need him to really play somebody this way I will know what he is.
Did you read my post about Kwame at just a few months older was putting up numbers close to 30 points and about 12 rebounds in many of his first summer league games? If so, what do you think about that being that he was not much older than Bynum is now?
SL means very little, positively or negatively.
Posted by Rich:
SL means very little, positively or negatively.
i dont agree with that. i know there have been cases of players who have done well and scked in the nba and players who have scked in SL and done well in the nBA--remember john starks was first spotted by us playing in SL
its not so much the points or stats--its the quality and consistency of play. this is a guy who played less than 25 HS games was 310 pounds 3 months ago and now he is laying out 5 dimes? I knew it when i saw him play he isnt shaq, but almost the combination of a PF and a C I dont think they couldve found a better C for the future of the triangle. a guy with a huge frame who can post and pass, im really starting to suspect that andrew bynum now is the number 1 prospect in this draft, not because ive followed it because of what i have seen and what he has done and how fastly he did it, nto including the fact that the Laker doctors said he will grow 2-3 more inches and hes already 7 feet barefooted. IF he doesnt get hurt, and that is with any player--you are looking at the next great nBA C
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Rich:
SL means very little, positively or negatively.
i dont agree with that. i know there have been cases of players who have done well and scked in the nba and players who have scked in SL and done well in the nBA--remember john starks was first spotted by us playing in SL
its not so much the points or stats--its the quality and consistency of play. this is a guy who played less than 25 HS games was 310 pounds 3 months ago and now he is laying out 5 dimes? I knew it when i saw him play he isnt shaq, but almost the combination of a PF and a C I dont think they couldve found a better C for the future of the triangle. a guy with a huge frame who can post and pass, im really starting to suspect that andrew bynum now is the number 1 prospect in this draft, not because ive followed it because of what i have seen and what he has done and how fastly he did it, nto including the fact that the Laker doctors said he will grow 2-3 more inches and hes already 7 feet barefooted. IF he doesnt get hurt, and that is with any player--you are looking at the next great nBA C
Doesn't the level of competition matter in evaluating a player? If so, the SL doesn't often provide that on a consistent basis (and this is coming from someone who wanted Bynum over Frye).
Posted by Rich:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Rich:
SL means very little, positively or negatively.
i dont agree with that. i know there have been cases of players who have done well and scked in the nba and players who have scked in SL and done well in the nBA--remember john starks was first spotted by us playing in SL
its not so much the points or stats--its the quality and consistency of play. this is a guy who played less than 25 HS games was 310 pounds 3 months ago and now he is laying out 5 dimes? I knew it when i saw him play he isnt shaq, but almost the combination of a PF and a C I dont think they couldve found a better C for the future of the triangle. a guy with a huge frame who can post and pass, im really starting to suspect that andrew bynum now is the number 1 prospect in this draft, not because ive followed it because of what i have seen and what he has done and how fastly he did it, nto including the fact that the Laker doctors said he will grow 2-3 more inches and hes already 7 feet barefooted. IF he doesnt get hurt, and that is with any player--you are looking at the next great nBA C
Doesn't the level of competition matter in evaluating a player? If so, the SL doesn't often provide that on a consistent basis (and this is coming from someone who wanted Bynum over Frye).
i think it can show you an outline of what a player can be, perhaps that is what i am getting at. Bynum needs a lot of work in terms of strength and conditioing, and of course its almost impossible to grade a player until he fill out like a man. Actually hes so skinny looking right now he looks like jermaine oneal out of HS, although taller. Almost like a 5 tool baseball player he has shown the ability to score to rebound to block shots to pass the ball to catch and handle the ball and although 17 the willingness to bang and play hard against guys who are for the most part 3-5 years older with experience. He needs fundamental work on his jump shot, its flat, and all sorts of intangible fundamentals, but its the skeleton of the play and the rapid fire development that is so intriuging
Earl Barron dropped in 24 and Simien dropped in 20 on Bynum...with that kind of D or lack of it Bynum will not see minutes or he will be in continual foul trouble...
Bynum is more popular here than in Laker forums, thats amazing...
Bynum tonight in 23 minutes
11 points 9 rebounds 2 blocks 2 assits
avg over 5 games
13.1 points 7.2 reb 1.2 block 1.5 as FG % 56% avg 28min
Posted by BRIGGS:
Bynum tonight in 23 minutes
11 points 9 rebounds 2 blocks 2 assits
avg over 5 games
13.1 points 7.2 reb 1.2 block 1.5 as FG % 56% avg 28min
Again, can you also list for us who has been guarding him? And if so, being that you don't provide links, how much did the guys' he guarded have against him?
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Again, can you also list for us who has been guarding him? And if so, being that you don't provide links, how much did the guys' he guarded have against him?
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Monk listen up. It's just too much daggone work to do that.
I'll speak for us all here (since obviously we all should take certain parties word as gospel) and say that you should spend the time to research for yourself something that's readily available on the web (another reliable source of info)
....too much work....Just too much Daggone work I tell ya
it doesnt take much to look up at the scores in the SL, bynum has actually played against btter competition than what the Knicks have seen. For instance last night we playerd against no body yet channing still didnt play well again. the only player of note that channing has played is Howard.
going though all the boxscores bynum has played against Lawrence Roberts Wayne Simien Hakim Warrick Charlie V Earl Barron Malik Badiane Eric Chenisowrth etc.. hes playing against many of the top CBB guys, guy who are bigger than him like barron chenisowrth and other solid guys--the regular deal that SL is. The Lakers have faced tougher competition than the Knicks, if thats what you are going at.
Bynum has done well because he is skilled and long and athleticand they simplified his game. He is low post, nothing else, he is right at the basket with a dunk a jump hook up and under or put back. Nothing fancy other than what he has shown with his post passing which has been from reports fantastic. You take a guy who can catch the ball who is 7-1 270 who can jump and has nice skill,put him right at the basket and he is going to consistently do damage, and Bynum has done that. the only negatives are what would be expected-conditioning getting used to the speed of the game and some fundamental work that comes with practice, otherwise the kid has scored an A+ just like Nate Robinson Diogu
Wayne Simien and Hakim Warrick
http://photobucket.com/albums/v335/PopcornMachine/SPL2005/20050715/?action=view¤t=DSC01343_Bynum_slam.jpg
