After watching this movie I really appreciate JFK even more for how he stood for America .
They threw the '00 election.
History is full of lies, or is it just a part of history?
Evil dealings of power hungry mascaraded as benevent for the masses.
Religion is faith individuals choose to believe.
When we don't accept "belief", then we don't accept each other.
We believe our gov't or relious leaders are for the people. If that faith is not accepted, then we fight.
Look at the Islam control over there masses. They choose to believe death is more glorious than life. Are they also pawns of the greedy who control them?
Is the secret society who control America take the stance that evil must be dealt with evil? But evil for the greater good?
Bush family roots are evil, but there were lots of thinkers who without hte benefit of knowing the intimate Soviet or Nazi "miricle" of how they overcame their economic depression (1930's) looked at that model with envy before the ugly truth was found. Our depression made for desperate times and people look for the "escape" goat when things go wrong.
Many thought communisim was a valid way but once demonized it was done away with in almost dictator type methoeds of arrest and blackballing.
No UK post can even scratch the surface, but the quest of truth in interesting but to what end?
Why was 911 allowed to happen? Why was it done if it was by our government?
Does America, a country that has no one nationalist ethnic race need to be instigated emotionally to enter a war? We are isolationist by nature and all of our wars were after some kind of aggressive act by a foriegn entity.
If we did not respond, would we isolationist further until an even greater act of agression would behold us? Say what you want, but 6 years later did we ever think that nothing else would happen? Our energy is still relatively inexpensive, our way of life still is intact, and our freedoms are really not that limited? I can still choose where I want to live, worship even an unpopular religion if I want, write about what I want to, and travel as I wish.
Where are my rights limited? And if so, are they not better than elsewhere?
Country might be built on lies, thru and thru is there a better game in town?
Don't get me wrong, I love to visit Socialist countries and from the outside they seem great. But they bitch and moan about taxes, quality healthcare, and lazy politics. There is racism in those countries even worse than we got here.
America is far from perfect, but relatively I can't think of too many places I want to live otherwise.
Our problems and history is consistant with our planet. Truth, lies and believed perceptions.
Good post Nalod.
Playa btw there is a conspiracy theory about JFK for you also, the Kennedy family supposedly had/has ties to the mob. There is not a thing in history about which there is not a conspiracy theory.
I hear what you are saying , but my red flag is we as a nation rights are slowly but surely being taken away.
This is still the richest country in the world, but we don't treat every american citizen like it's true.
There are too many reports in history that nations like to start false wars for their own agenda.
I say that is my problem with this country's goverment.
I belive we have very evil elitist in this country who don't value americans as a whole.
The love of money is the root of all evil and men who make the most have a lust for more even if they don't need it.
Corporations and Bank institutions have a monopoly over the goverment and the american public it's called "DEBT".
I wake up some days shame to be an american citizen, other countries knows all of our dirt, but we as americans seem to look the other way.
Hitler fooled his people they way G.Bush is doing right now.
The next "MAJOR" tragedy in america will unleash a police state and like I posted the other day the president and vice president will have total dictatorship control over the american people WHEN IMPLEMENTED.
Everything else IMHO doesn't matter.
Posted by playa2:
I hear what you are saying , but my red flag is we as a nation rights are slowly but surely being taken away.
This is still the richest country in the world, but we don't treat every american citizen like it's true.
There are too many reports in history that nations like to start false wars for their own agenda.
I say that is my problem with this country's goverment.
I belive we have very evil elitist in this country who don't value americans as a whole.
The love of money is the root of all evil and men who make the most have a lust for more even if they don't need it.
Corporations and Bank institutions have a monopoly over the goverment and the american public it's called "DEBT".
I wake up some days shame to be an american citizen, other countries knows all of our dirt, but we as americans seem to look the other way.
Hitler fooled his people they way G.Bush is doing right now.
The next "MAJOR" tragedy in america will unleash a police state and like I posted the other day the president and vice president will have total dictatorship control over the american people WHEN IMPLEMENTED.
Everything else IMHO doesn't matter.
I hear you , but look at it this way,,,,,,
the very rights you think we are losing really never existed. So in a way your saying we are going down hill but its the perception that is going away. Look at the way we treated people over history, enslavement, womens rights, antisemetic against jews, italians, irish, etc. Yet each rose up and gaines respect in the new world.
The sweat shops, chinese railway workers, Japanese encampment, Native Americans, Kent state, Civil War, the list goes on. We believe we have evolved but not entirely.
Yet we are a compassionate country from time to time.
Eny, I don't think things have really changed for the worse, its jut that Money Barons have been there from the beginning and use power for the good of their families and the good of the country.
At the same time look around at each country and you'll find many similar or paralell events.
Except not all countries use Genocide. Thats over the top and while I am no Bush fan, concentration camps of civilians are not prevelent.
Or are they???
Hitler came to power by telling people exactly what he was going to do.
He made promises and he delivered on them. In the late 30's it was no secret to anybody what would happen. People just chose to ignore the obvious.
All you had to do was read his own book, Main Kampf, or My Struggle.
The same way everybody was well aware of what the Germans were doing in concentration camps but not a single bombed was dropped by the allies for 5 years to disrupt their operation. Same way the British turned around the Exodus refugee ship back to Germany in 1939 killing 3 people in the process.
Yep the same ship they made a feel good movie about how the nice British save a bunch of Jews from the ship called Exodus. Now thats a conspiracy if there ever was one.
The demise of america, coming this fall around election time.
Posted by simrud:
Good post Nalod.
Playa btw there is a conspiracy theory about JFK for you also, the Kennedy family supposedly had/has ties to the mob. There is not a thing in history about which there is not a conspiracy theory.
Are you kidding? The Mob has always had ties to everyone in power.
It's so weird. All the sudden I'm running into this name all day. A guy handed me a piece of paper earlier and said 'check this film out'. And then I'm on Youtube and a video started to play that said 'Zeitgeist Productions' and now I run across the very thing on this thread. This means something.
Ever since 9/11, I have been seen the symbols/numbers 111 or 1111. Someone told me that's Jesus's number and I never even followed that stuff. I'm not sure what that means, but this never happened before. Strange things in the air.
Any of you's been having strange noticible things happen around you? There like chaos theories. Things that have an underlying structure, when there is a bigger picture that you cannot see. Does that make sense to anyone?
4949 I commend you for being open minded even if it makes you un easy.
To many are in denial of what's going on around them, or they choose not to know on purpose.
All the post about elitist taking over america is true, corporations and banking institutions are shoving it down our throats with no chaser.
So I ask you yet again, if this doesn't happen are you gonna eat crow and say you're an idiot?
Posted by playa2:
The demise of america, coming this fall around election time.
Posted by nykshaknbake:
So I ask you yet again, if this doesn't happen are you gonna eat crow and say you're an idiot?
Posted by playa2:
The demise of america, coming this fall around election time.
When it does happen are you gonna send me you're income tax refund check for warning you ?
How crazy would it be if something did happen Playa you can be rest assure everyone will be blowing up your email
Only if you'll send me yours if you're wrong. But I will eat crow and admit I was blind and all that. How about you? Are you man enough stand behind what you say? I'm guessing no
Posted by playa2:
Posted by nykshaknbake:
So I ask you yet again, if this doesn't happen are you gonna eat crow and say you're an idiot?
Posted by playa2:
The demise of america, coming this fall around election time.
When it does happen are you gonna send me you're income tax refund check for warning you ?
WHat is the demise???
We bomb Iran?
Lets define it:
Martial Law?
Bush Chaney does not vacate office?
Not some new excursion to another country. Thats just part of the deal.
and for that matter, not everyone believes the president, so when he lies, its not on everyones ears. That phucher had designs on IRAQ for years and not for the reasons most can comprehend.
Playa is right on one front, there is a different agenda than the voting public knows, but thats been the deal since the country was formed. Its not evil, nor honest, its just how it works.
But I'd put him on the hook for vacating office and Martial Law.
Starting a war or a bombing action before an election has been done before.
[Edited by - nalod on 04-09-2008 4:23 PM]
