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Vmart @ 9/23/2013 11:13 PM
The O-line is horrible. If the offensive line doesn't doesn't show up this season is going to be lost. I can take missing playoffs if the team is trying hard and miss, but to be completely over matched is something that can't be tolerated.

I hate the lack of adjustment made, I hate the fact that everything has to be a home run play on offense. Giant football is ball control grind it out football that is the identity.

jrodmc @ 9/24/2013 8:24 AM
Giant football is now hoping for 20 yards of total offense per half and pray Eli doesn't end up getting his head and knees removed before half the season is over.

0-4 is very doable!

SupremeCommander @ 9/25/2013 11:23 AM
jrodmc wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
jrodmc wrote:The Return of ... Brandon Jacobs!

wow, I hope that little crying kid is still following the Giants...

The return of the earthquake shake!

0 - 2...shades of 2007! Keep hope alive!

the Giants suck. I am rooting for Clowney at this point

When you are right, you are so right. Suck is not a strong enough word.

BTW, who's Clowney, and why should I root for him?

this play made him famous and sums hims up completely... he's a pass rushing stud

jrodmc @ 9/26/2013 2:04 PM
He didn't get blocked and knocked someone's helmet off. At least he's got NFL-level posturing down pat.

University of South Carolina? I don't follow college. Have they always been Div 1?

SupremeCommander @ 9/26/2013 3:57 PM
jrodmc wrote:He didn't get blocked and knocked someone's helmet off. At least he's got NFL-level posturing down pat.

University of South Carolina? I don't follow college. Have they always been Div 1?

He's a top-5 pick. Here's an article that was posted 30 minutes ago on nfl.com:

Has Anthony Barr passed Jadeveon Clowney on draft boards?

By Dan Greenspan
College Football 24/7 writer
Published: Sept. 26, 2013 at 03:03 p.m. Updated: Sept. 26, 2013 at 03:44 p.m. 0 Likes | 0 Comments
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UCLA linebacker Anthony Barr can be a versatile, Julian Peterson-type player, according to Bucky Brooks.
Has "Collapsing for Clowney" given way to "Bombing for Barr?" If you run a 3-4 defense, it has, with NFL Media analyst Bucky Brooks pointing to the production and versatility UCLA linebacker Anthony Barr has shown this season to outpace South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney.

"If we're just going off of what has been done on the tape, Anthony Barr has outplayed him. And when you really think about his versatility and what he brings to the table, I think you can make an argument that he may be a guy that is more worthy of being selected at the top of the board than Jadeveon Clowney based on what we have seen on the tape on the field," Brooks said on the College Football 24/7 Podcast.

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Barr has 18 tackles with five tackles for loss (one sack), three forced fumbles and one fumble recovery through three games this season, while Clowney has 10 tackles with three tackles for loss (two sacks) and one forced fumble in the same span.

More important, Barr has lined up in multiple positions -- playing outside linebacker and defensive end and even covering slot receivers -- whereas Clowney is limited to coming off the edge or playing inside on obvious passing downs. Brooks sees Barr as a Julian Peterson-type player who can be deployed in a variety of ways, but with pass-rushing skills comparable to those of Clay Matthews.

Barr has played only 17 games as a defender but has 26.5 tackles for loss with 14.5 sacks in that span. A senior, he played H-back in his first two seasons with the Bruins and is only scratching the surface of his potential, another check in Barr's favor, Brooks said.

"As an evaluator, you're thinking, 'If I get him coached up and put him with the right coach and the right scheme, this guy will go from good to great in no time because he is still trying to figure out what to do,'" Brooks said.

Barr has gone out of his way to avoid or downplay comparisons to Clowney. When asked by Matt "Money" Smith about how he projects in the NFL, Barr pointed to the more multi-faceted aspects of his game.

"I just think I'm a three-down guy," Barr said. "I can cover the tight end, cover the back out of the backfield. I can rush the passer, I can play the run. I can just do it all."

The preferred defensive alignment of teams at the top of the 2014 NFL Draft will probably dictate whether Barr or Clowney is the first defender off the board.

As Brooks notes, Clowney could be the next Julius Peppers, whereas Barr is like Von Miller, who has alternated between outside linebacker in a 3-4 look and strongside linebacker in the Broncos' current 4-3 scheme.

Said Brooks: "If you are weighing the two, it comes down to what is the scheme and what is the best fit for what you want to do."

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SupremeCommander @ 9/26/2013 4:03 PM
And SC is one of the big, bad schools of the SEC East. Them, Florida, and Georgia are the three teams that 'contend' each year
IronWillGiroud @ 10/6/2013 4:16 PM
i am in pool at work now and i watch nfl because of this today,

and giants suck

MaTT4281 @ 10/6/2013 4:54 PM
Yankees and Giants always got me by every year the Knicks sucked. I should have known the Knicks could only be a good team at the expense of the other two. What the hell, Big Blue?!
BigDaddyG @ 10/6/2013 5:19 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:Yankees and Giants always got me by every year the Knicks sucked. I should have known the Knicks could only be a good team at the expense of the other two. What the hell, Big Blue?!

Yeah, it's time to start looking at possible picks. But where to begin? This team has so many holes.

jrodmc @ 10/7/2013 9:23 AM
Hey, look at it this way: the Gints are officially dead the same week as the Knicks first preseason game!

You can maintain a single, laser focus on Knicks basketball now! Life is good!

Nalod @ 10/7/2013 9:42 AM
Giants let a lot of older talent walk and without saying it, is this how they rebuild?
jrodmc @ 10/7/2013 11:07 AM
The Coughlin retirement plan. Does it kickoff at 0-6? 0-8? Does he make it to the bye week?

I'm on record as saying 2011 wasn't all that long ago, but no wins at all?

SupremeCommander @ 10/7/2013 11:13 AM
MaTT4281 wrote:Yankees and Giants always got me by every year the Knicks sucked. I should have known the Knicks could only be a good team at the expense of the other two. What the hell, Big Blue?!

the Yankees (played hard but) suck. The Giants suck. The Knicks are playing to salvage my 2013-14 season. I'm doomed - jump!!

Nalod @ 10/7/2013 1:24 PM
jrodmc wrote:The Coughlin retirement plan. Does it kickoff at 0-6? 0-8? Does he make it to the bye week?

I'm on record as saying 2011 wasn't all that long ago, but no wins at all?

I doubt they fire as he is enroute to HOF for his two rings. I doubt he "resigns" as he don't take me as a man who bails.

Has he lost his team? Schedule has not been easy, but "Oh-Fer"???

Not cool!

SupremeCommander @ 10/7/2013 10:45 PM
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:The Coughlin retirement plan. Does it kickoff at 0-6? 0-8? Does he make it to the bye week?

I'm on record as saying 2011 wasn't all that long ago, but no wins at all?

I doubt they fire as he is enroute to HOF for his two rings. I doubt he "resigns" as he don't take me as a man who bails.

Has he lost his team? Schedule has not been easy, but "Oh-Fer"???

Not cool!

I really think Reese should be fired. The o-line sucks. The entire defense sucks. I'd rather have Umenyiora and Bennett than Beatty and his big contract... If that happens, maybe they ask Coughlin to resign too. Maybe promote Fewell or Gilbride just to keep some stability.

jrodmc @ 10/11/2013 9:47 AM
Could we possibly just play every day for the next two weeks and end our perfect season early?

Is Eli part of the tanking plan?

SupremeCommander @ 10/11/2013 1:11 PM
jrodmc wrote:Could we possibly just play every day for the next two weeks and end our perfect season early?

Is Eli part of the tanking plan?

how bad has he been? I hope he goes down with a phantom injury so we can see if Nassib is as good as everyone said leading up to the draft. Gruden (and others) said he was the best QB prospect of last year's draft. I doubt he ever takes over for Eli but I want to see if maybe they can deal him for a first rounder this offseason

jrodmc @ 10/21/2013 11:23 AM
Eli is leading all leagues in scoring opportunities for the opposition. I swear, it's almost like he'd throw it to himself and run into his own end zone in the fourth quarter if he could.

Is there any line yet on whether Coach Cough makes it out of the bye week?

jrodmc @ 10/22/2013 10:52 AM
Are there any other 1-5 pretzels in the bag we could play?

Justin has a shovel.
Eli's dancing.
Nicks has decided he'd rather pout than catch.

Next week's starting backfield will feature the return of John Riggins! Or maybe the Fridge!

SupremeCommander @ 10/24/2013 11:21 AM
jrodmc wrote:Are there any other 1-5 pretzels in the bag we could play?

Justin has a shovel.
Eli's dancing.
Nicks has decided he'd rather pout than catch.

Next week's starting backfield will feature the return of John Riggins! Or maybe the Fridge!

I doubt Nicks gets re-signed in the offseason... too many holes to pay (another) wideout. I hope they trade him before the deadline

jrodmc @ 10/28/2013 11:11 AM
2-6! We're climbing back to .300! Field goals and blown snaps! What a team!
We've been playing great run defense!

Coughlin may get an extension to make his retirement coincide with his 80th birthday!


Is there any chance we could get Detroit to give us that Megatron guy and some O linemen?

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