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SupremeCommander @ 1/3/2014 6:21 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Here is a good clip on Grice vs UCLA in 2013.

North-South type runner.
Catches everything.
Good vision
Can pickup the blitz
Good lead blocker
Kickoff return specialist

I really like this guy.

I don't like that he runs upright but that can be corrected

SupremeCommander @ 1/3/2014 6:22 PM
NYKBocker wrote:What I don't get with these mock drafts that are out for 2014 from so called Draft Experts....all of them have the Giants not taking an OL. It's like they don't pay attention to team needs and go by draft value. At the 12 spot, I think the Giants can pick from best available OL. It can be OT, OG or C even though I am hoping for an OT.

The Giants need a lot - I'm, okay with BPA. But they need to draft 3 or 4 on the line

NYKBocker @ 1/28/2014 6:26 PM
Check this site out! Very addicting. NFL Draft Game.
http://first-pick.com/Default.aspx
NYKBocker @ 1/28/2014 6:36 PM
Check out my draft
Your score is: 3771 (Drafting Ability: B-, Player Quality A, Future Draft Picks: N/A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 31 (DEN): Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan (A-)
Round 2 Pick 11: Anthony Steen, OG, Alabama (B)
Round 2 Pick 19 (CHI): Adrian Hubbard, OLB, Alabama (B+)
Round 2 Pick 21 (G.B.): Chris Smith, DE, Arkansas (A)
Round 2 Pick 24 (S.F.): Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State (A)
Round 2 Pick 31 (DEN): Bryan Stork, C, Florida State (B)
Round 3 Pick 11 (STL): Christian Jones, ILB, Florida State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 21 (G.B.): Andre Williams, RB, Boston College (B+)
Round 4 Pick 10 (STL): Arthur Lynch, TE, Georgia (A)
Round 4 Pick 14 (JAX): Bashaud Breeland, CB, Clemson (B+)
Round 5 Pick 12: Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton (B+)
Round 5 Pick 18 (JAX): DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville (B+)
Round 6 Pick 11: Hakeem Smith, SS, Louisville (A-)
Round 7 Pick 10: Antonio Andrews, RB, Western Kentucky (B)

NYKBocker @ 2/4/2014 9:04 PM
This is my best draft to date. I ended with a top tier tackle. Number 1 ranked guard. Number 1 ranked center. A top 3 OLB.

Your score is: 4286 (Drafting Ability: A, Player Quality A, Future Draft Picks: N/A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 19 (MIA): Zack Martin, OT, Notre Dame (B+)
Round 2 Pick 11: David Yankey, OG, Stanford (B+)
Round 2 Pick 18 (MIA): Travis Swanson, C, Arkansas (A)
Round 3 Pick 10: Kyle Van Noy, OLB, Brigham Young (A)
Round 3 Pick 17 (MIA): Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas (A)
Round 4 Pick 13: Keith McGill, CB, Utah (A)
Round 5 Pick 12: Marion Grice, RB, Arizona State (A)
Round 6 Pick 11: Ed Stinson, DE, Alabama (A)
Round 7 Pick 10: Cody Hoffman, WR, Brigham Young (A)

NYKBocker @ 2/18/2014 10:08 AM
I think I like this draft even better...

Round 1 Pick 30 (S.F.): Marqise Lee, WR, Southern California (A-)
Round 2 Pick 11: Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG, UCLA (A-)
Round 2 Pick 24 (S.F.): Kyle Van Noy, OLB, Brigham Young (A)
Round 2 Pick 29 (S.F.): Marcus Smith, DE, Louisville (A-)
Round 3 Pick 10: Travis Swanson, C, Arkansas (A)
Round 3 Pick 30 (S.F.): Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood (A-)
Round 4 Pick 13: Marion Grice, RB, Arizona State (A)
Round 5 Pick 12: Rob Blanchflower, TE, Massachusetts (A-)
Round 6 Pick 11: Devin Street, WR, Pittsburgh (B+)

We get a replacement for Nicks.
We solidify the OL.
LT-Beatty
LG-Boothe
C-Swanson
RG-Su'a-Filo
RT-Pugh
We get a stud OLB.
We get a stud DE.
We get a very good CB.
We get a dynamic RB.

SupremeCommander @ 2/24/2014 4:11 PM
Bocker - did you see Dri Archer play last year? I am intrigued because of his 40 time
NYKBocker @ 2/25/2014 10:21 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:Bocker - did you see Dri Archer play last year? I am intrigued because of his 40 time

I didn't get a chance to see him play. He is really fast but he is really small. I am not really a fan of small backs. I know he ran a 4.26 and was timed by one scout at 4.18. He is more of a specialist for me.

One back that I like coming into the draft is Lache Seastrunk but unless we get an extra 2nd or 3rd rounder I don't think he is coming here. Depending on what we have available for us in the 12 spot this is how I want it to fall in the 1st 3 rounds.

1st scenario
1st Round - OT Mathews/Robinson/Lewan
2nd Round - OLB/CB/DE - Whoever is BAP. Would love to get Shazier or Van Noy here.
3rd Round - C Swanson/Richburg/Marcus Martin in that order.

2nd scenario
1st Round - OLB/TE/WR - BArr/Mack/Ebron/Watkins
2nd Round - OG Yankey/Jackson/Su'A-Filo/Richardson
3rd Round - C Swanson/Richburg/Marcus Martin in that order.

I am staying away from Kouandijo in the 1st 3 rounds now due to the medical stuff that has come out from the combines that he has arthritis. Would take a flyer on him maybe in the 4th round if he is still there.

Here is a link to the combine results
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?k...

SupremeCommander @ 2/25/2014 11:25 AM
NYKBocker wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:Bocker - did you see Dri Archer play last year? I am intrigued because of his 40 time

I didn't get a chance to see him play. He is really fast but he is really small. I am not really a fan of small backs. I know he ran a 4.26 and was timed by one scout at 4.18. He is more of a specialist for me.

One back that I like coming into the draft is Lache Seastrunk but unless we get an extra 2nd or 3rd rounder I don't think he is coming here. Depending on what we have available for us in the 12 spot this is how I want it to fall in the 1st 3 rounds.

1st scenario
1st Round - OT Mathews/Robinson/Lewan
2nd Round - OLB/CB/DE - Whoever is BAP. Would love to get Shazier or Van Noy here.
3rd Round - C Swanson/Richburg/Marcus Martin in that order.

2nd scenario
1st Round - OLB/TE/WR - BArr/Mack/Ebron/Watkins
2nd Round - OG Yankey/Jackson/Su'A-Filo/Richardson
3rd Round - C Swanson/Richburg/Marcus Martin in that order.

I am staying away from Kouandijo in the 1st 3 rounds now due to the medical stuff that has come out from the combines that he has arthritis. Would take a flyer on him maybe in the 4th round if he is still there.

Here is a link to the combine results
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?k...

I don't like them as rushing specialists but the small dudes like Darren Sproles, Reggie Bush, and Danny Woodhead have been excellent when used properly. I don't know if he's that type of guy or not but the speed definitely interests me

I would LOVE to have Lewan but I saw in the news he is dealing with accusations of assault (can't remember if it was sexual or not). I don't know if the Giants take him because usually they stay away from guys with baggage. They'll do their due diligence though and hopefully there really isn't any baggage and he falls right to the Gmen

considering they need help at receiver and the line, Ebron is starting to look like a better and better option

NYKBocker @ 2/25/2014 5:24 PM
OK..My apologies but I am addicted to this site. This is my best draft so far.

Your score is: 5374 (Drafting Ability: A, Player Quality B, Future Draft Picks: N/A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 12: Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo (A)
Round 2 Pick 11: Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi State (B+)
Round 3 Pick 10: Travis Swanson, C, Arkansas (A)
Round 4 Pick 13: Terrance Mitchell, CB, Oregon (A)
Round 5 Pick 12: Bruce Ellington, WR, South Carolina (A)
Round 6 Pick 11: Andre Williams, RB, Boston College (A)


EDIT

Just ran it again. This is my best draft yet...
Your score is: 5479 (Drafting Ability: A, Player Quality B+, Future Draft Picks: N/A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 12: Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn (A)
Round 2 Pick 11: Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech (A)
Round 3 Pick 10: Travis Swanson, C, Arkansas (A)
Round 4 Pick 13: Terrance Mitchell, CB, Oregon (A)
Round 5 Pick 12: Bruce Ellington, WR, South Carolina (A)
Round 6 Pick 11: James White, RB, Wisconsin (A)

SupremeCommander @ 2/28/2014 10:26 AM
as much help as the Giants need on the the o-line and with the front seven on D, I am warmng to the idea of drafting Darqueze Dennard/Justin Gilbert. I like the idea of having two top flight CBs that are relatively the same age.
NYKBocker @ 2/28/2014 10:44 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:as much help as the Giants need on the the o-line and with the front seven on D, I am warmng to the idea of drafting Darqueze Dennard/Justin Gilbert. I like the idea of having two top flight CBs that are relatively the same age.

Man, I hope not. If they draft CBs in the 1st 3 rounds that means Baas and Snee are coming back and Manning will running for his life again.

SupremeCommander @ 3/12/2014 1:25 PM
Not terribly excited about the if season so far - but - apparently the giants have called Revis. Our safeties are awesome. Revis as a one, Prince as a two, those safeties... that would be a great way to break in a young d-line
SupremeCommander @ 3/12/2014 4:36 PM
feel much better now that they retained Beason
BigDaddyG @ 3/14/2014 8:44 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:feel much better now that they retained Beason

Feel sick now that Tuck is gone. Our D-Line is scarier than it was last year and i don't mean that in a good way.

SupremeCommander @ 3/14/2014 9:14 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:feel much better now that they retained Beason

Feel sick now that Tuck is gone. Our D-Line is scarier than it was last year and i don't mean that in a good way.

+1 and we don't have a number one CB either...

NYKBocker @ 3/14/2014 12:55 PM
Beason now McLain. Jints getting some LBers that can hit like Giant LBers of old.
Vmart @ 3/17/2014 11:15 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:feel much better now that they retained Beason

Feel sick now that Tuck is gone. Our D-Line is scarier than it was last year and i don't mean that in a good way.

I don't know how anyone can miss Tuck he was always hurt and coasted for a year and a half. Showed up the last 6 games to make a FA push and got himself a deal with the Raiders. I'm actually happy for him as the Giants need to bring in the new and replace the old. Hungry players funny how Tuck got hungry only towards the end coasted in the beginning so he wouldn't get hurt and showed up to play late in the season for the contract.

SupremeCommander @ 3/17/2014 11:15 AM
Rogers-Cromartie is scheduled for a visit today. If that happens the CBs are solidified. They added high-quality depth this past weekend and got a return guy. Nothing exciting about this offseason but I feel as though the team improved without damaging their cap situation
SupremeCommander @ 3/17/2014 9:50 PM
DRC signed, Kiwi took a paycut on top of Tuck leaving... I'm beginning to think the GMen are drafting a DE in the first round
ToddTT @ 3/18/2014 8:03 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:DRC signed, Kiwi took a paycut on top of Tuck leaving... I'm beginning to think the GMen are drafting a DE in the first round

That's gotta be an awkward conversation.

"We'd like you to stay, and work hard, and oh yeah... we'd like to restructure your deal and pay you less."

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