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What a great FA season so far. Vernon, Harrison, Jenkins and Robinson. Looking at the depth chart we still need a couple of LBs, Guard or RT, FS, WR and RB. We only have 6 picks so this is going to be tough.

first-pick.com gave me a B+ on this mock but I like it.

Your score is: 8307 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 10: Myles Jack, OLB/ILB, UCLA (A+)
Round 2 Pick 9: Cody Whitehair, OG, Kansas State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 8: Darian Thompson, FS, Boise State (B)
Round 4 Pick 11: Nick Vigil, ILB, Utah State (B+)
Round 5 Pick 10: Aaron Burbridge, WR, Michigan State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 9: Kelvin Taylor, RB, Florida (A+)

Hit the mother load!!!
Your score is: 9146 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 10: Darron Lee, OLB/ILB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 9: Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama (A+)
Round 3 Pick 8: Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama (A+)
Round 4 Pick 11: Keanu Neal, FS, Florida (A-)
Round 5 Pick 10: Jason Fanaika, DE, Utah (A+)
Round 6 Pick 9: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida (B)

NYKBocker wrote:Hit the mother load!!!
Your score is: 9146 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 10: Darron Lee, OLB/ILB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 9: Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama (A+)
Round 3 Pick 8: Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama (A+)
Round 4 Pick 11: Keanu Neal, FS, Florida (A-)
Round 5 Pick 10: Jason Fanaika, DE, Utah (A+)
Round 6 Pick 9: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida (B)

sign me up for Derrick Henry in the 3rd

1-0.

Giants win partly due to a Dallas brain-fart, but I'll take it! Defense still seemed spotty. Credit to some of the Dallas guys, but too many missed or broken tackles giving up the first down.

Felt great to see Cruz on the field though. Salsa is back on the menu!

What I saw of the pass coverage and rush on a rookie QB was pathetic. I'm as Gint's homer as it gets, but Dallas gave that game away.

Run defense looked okay, pocket protection certainly looked better.

It is good to know Eli's got some scary weapons all on the field at the same time.

Congrats, and thanks for passing on Robert Ayers, got us a sack against the Falcons!

Hey Gustav! How them Buc's looking this year? We going to finally meet in the playoffs?

jrodmc wrote:Hey Gustav! How them Buc's looking this year? We going to finally meet in the playoffs?

I hope so jrod, the last time the Bucs won in the playoffs was the Super Bowl . Jameis won offensive player of the week, had his usual shaky start but finished with 4 TDs. Been very impressed with his maturity and growth as a man and as a player. The players love the new coach Koetter, the former OC. So glad they got rid of Lovie Smith.

Giants have the best WR receiver tandem in the league but the Bucs are getting better. Dont expect Evans to have so many drops this season.

Eli with a nice game. Cruz with the almost salsa catch. Two tight wins late that would have definitely been losses last year.
Is it MacAdoo? Or is it just some rather weak teams?

I don't care.

2-0

Ayers is already hurt, thanks for nothing.

Faith, Gustav:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...

Giants, Buccaneers among likely new playoff teams in 2016

By Gil Brandt
NFL Media senior analyst
Published: Sept. 21, 2016 at 10:44 a.m. Updated: Sept. 21, 2016 at 04:05 p.m.
If it seems like we see fresh faces in the playoffs every year, it's because, well, we do.

While we've all become accustomed to some amount of annual turnover among competitors in today's NFL, the actual numbers are eyebrow-raising when spelled out. Going back to 1990, at least four new teams -- that is, teams that did not make the playoffs in the previous season -- have hit the postseason every year.

Last season, the Texans, Chiefs, Vikings and Redskins reached the playoffs after failing to make the cut in 2014. With two weeks in the books this season, I thought I'd take an (extremely) early look at who could flip the script in 2016.

Below are (two of the) four teams I currently believe have the best chance to make the playoffs in 2016 after missing them in 2015:

1) New York Giants
This is the only team on this list that is really a cinch. The massive investment on defense (signing defensive end Olivier Vernon, cornerback Janoris Jenkins and defensive tackle Damon Harrison and drafting corner Eli Apple and safety Darian Thompson) is paying off. Through two weeks, the Giants have improved by 24 spots in defensive ranking (32 to eight), 19 spots in pass defense (32 to 13) and 20 spots in run defense (24 to four). In Week 1, New York held rookie back Ezekiel Elliott (running behind the Cowboys' vaunted line) to 2.6 yards per carry and a score on 20 attempts. In Week 2, the Giants limited Drew Brees and the Saints to 288 yards of offense and 13 points -- one season after losing a 52-49 shootout to New Orleans in which Brees and Co. rolled up 608 total yards. Jenkins (eight) and Apple (seven) led the team in tackles on Sunday, with Jenkins contributing a defensive touchdown on a blocked field-goal try. Coordinator Steve Spagnuolo is very good and will make great use of the new players and his returning stalwarts (including Johnathan Hankins, Jason Pierre-Paul and Landon Collins).

2015's eighth-ranked offense should be boosted by the return of receiver Victor Cruz (who's contributed a game-altering catch in each contest thus far) and the addition of rookie Sterling Shepard (14.5 yards per catch and a score). Quarterback Eli Manning is coming off an excellent season, and I expect him to continue thriving under head coach Ben McAdoo. The Giants were my preseason pick to emerge atop the NFC East, and they've only helped themselves in that cause.

2) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
The Bucs took a step back Sunday after an impressive opening to the season, but I still ultimately feel improved play by quarterback Jameis Winston in Year 2 and better coaching by new head man Dirk Koetter will get this squad over the hump. Despite how 2015 ended, the Bucs were not terrible, ranking fifth in offense and 10th in defense, with a four-game collapse undoing an otherwise promising 6-6 start. Winston looked great in the preseason, and he continued to show those improvements in Week 1 (71.9 percent completion rate, 281 yards, four touchdowns against one pick and a 125.1 passer rating) before stumbling quite badly in Week 2 (51.9 percent completion rate for 243 yards, one touchdown against four picks, a fumble, three sacks and a 39.2 passer rating). Of course, some of that can be chalked up to a young player struggling on the road.

It's obviously never good to lose by 33 points. But for what it's worth, Sunday's debacle came against one of the best teams in the league in Arizona, with running back Doug Martin exiting early due to a hamstring injury. The Week 1 win, meanwhile, came against Atlanta -- and beating a divisional foe in hostile territory is practically like winning two games. Of course, losing Martin -- who will be out at least three weeks -- hurts, but the bottom line is, the Bucs are 1-0 in the NFC South. With Koetter -- who is really good at coaching quarterbacks -- coaxing a big year out of Winston, Tampa Bay should still be on track to nab a wild-card spot.

McAdoo conservative play calling is baffling..2nd and long he runs...2and 14, 2 and 11, 2 and 16, 2 and 22, 2 and 10...All runs, I dont get it..Giants still playing not to lose football this year too..

3rd and goal with three dyanmiC receivers, the play is called is a pass for the 4th rb on the depth chart..

Please lose the game throwing the ball at our dynamic receivers in the end zone not the 10th option...Pass to Tye on one series results in an int...Next series Pass to the Mr. fumbleitist in the red zone..

OMG..Beckham is so juiced..Give him the damn ball...This is so puzzling..

jrodmc wrote:Faith, Gustav:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...

Giants, Buccaneers among likely new playoff teams in 2016

By Gil Brandt
NFL Media senior analyst
Published: Sept. 21, 2016 at 10:44 a.m. Updated: Sept. 21, 2016 at 04:05 p.m.
If it seems like we see fresh faces in the playoffs every year, it's because, well, we do.

While we've all become accustomed to some amount of annual turnover among competitors in today's NFL, the actual numbers are eyebrow-raising when spelled out. Going back to 1990, at least four new teams -- that is, teams that did not make the playoffs in the previous season -- have hit the postseason every year.

Last season, the Texans, Chiefs, Vikings and Redskins reached the playoffs after failing to make the cut in 2014. With two weeks in the books this season, I thought I'd take an (extremely) early look at who could flip the script in 2016.

Below are (two of the) four teams I currently believe have the best chance to make the playoffs in 2016 after missing them in 2015:

1) New York Giants
This is the only team on this list that is really a cinch. The massive investment on defense (signing defensive end Olivier Vernon, cornerback Janoris Jenkins and defensive tackle Damon Harrison and drafting corner Eli Apple and safety Darian Thompson) is paying off. Through two weeks, the Giants have improved by 24 spots in defensive ranking (32 to eight), 19 spots in pass defense (32 to 13) and 20 spots in run defense (24 to four). In Week 1, New York held rookie back Ezekiel Elliott (running behind the Cowboys' vaunted line) to 2.6 yards per carry and a score on 20 attempts. In Week 2, the Giants limited Drew Brees and the Saints to 288 yards of offense and 13 points -- one season after losing a 52-49 shootout to New Orleans in which Brees and Co. rolled up 608 total yards. Jenkins (eight) and Apple (seven) led the team in tackles on Sunday, with Jenkins contributing a defensive touchdown on a blocked field-goal try. Coordinator Steve Spagnuolo is very good and will make great use of the new players and his returning stalwarts (including Johnathan Hankins, Jason Pierre-Paul and Landon Collins).

2015's eighth-ranked offense should be boosted by the return of receiver Victor Cruz (who's contributed a game-altering catch in each contest thus far) and the addition of rookie Sterling Shepard (14.5 yards per catch and a score). Quarterback Eli Manning is coming off an excellent season, and I expect him to continue thriving under head coach Ben McAdoo. The Giants were my preseason pick to emerge atop the NFC East, and they've only helped themselves in that cause.

2) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
The Bucs took a step back Sunday after an impressive opening to the season, but I still ultimately feel improved play by quarterback Jameis Winston in Year 2 and better coaching by new head man Dirk Koetter will get this squad over the hump. Despite how 2015 ended, the Bucs were not terrible, ranking fifth in offense and 10th in defense, with a four-game collapse undoing an otherwise promising 6-6 start. Winston looked great in the preseason, and he continued to show those improvements in Week 1 (71.9 percent completion rate, 281 yards, four touchdowns against one pick and a 125.1 passer rating) before stumbling quite badly in Week 2 (51.9 percent completion rate for 243 yards, one touchdown against four picks, a fumble, three sacks and a 39.2 passer rating). Of course, some of that can be chalked up to a young player struggling on the road.

It's obviously never good to lose by 33 points. But for what it's worth, Sunday's debacle came against one of the best teams in the league in Arizona, with running back Doug Martin exiting early due to a hamstring injury. The Week 1 win, meanwhile, came against Atlanta -- and beating a divisional foe in hostile territory is practically like winning two games. Of course, losing Martin -- who will be out at least three weeks -- hurts, but the bottom line is, the Bucs are 1-0 in the NFC South. With Koetter -- who is really good at coaching quarterbacks -- coaxing a big year out of Winston, Tampa Bay should still be on track to nab a wild-card spot.

Make mine a double jrod Bucs cut our most talented TE right before kick off after a DUI (the lastest F up) Sefarian Jenkins. Coach is right that its a culture problem, they just find new ways to lose. Its probably going to be another rebuilding season if we lose the next one. We need more talent on D. Also lost our best RB, Martin, for 3 weeks. And our kicker, drafted in the second round, sucks. Ugh.

I watched the Giants game until I changed the channel to watch the Bucs lose. Is that guy you guys just signed who cost them the game with that penalty still on the team? You guys were in it right to the end, easier to pick yourself up from that loss.

No playoff win since 2002, the Bucs streak continues! 😢😭😱🌕🐢🌩🌪🍔🍦

Not trying to be funny here, it seems from a great distance like Beckham Jr. might be bipolar to some degree.

Nothing funny about OBJ; it seems like you could make that diagnosis from short distances as well.

Listening to even someone as flat line as Eli Manning comment on OBJ, you can sort of hear the frustration with the fact that the guy just doesn't understand that he's got a fun job. Every possession isn't the end of the world if he doesn't make a one handed circus catch in the end zone.

I had had such hopes just a few short weeks ago about both our teams...

Last two weeks the Giants deferred when they won the coin toss and the opponent team scored on the first possession...Is there a strategy to deferring??..Field direction in the second half?..Usually they are long out of the game..

Wade is this year's version of Elvis "Toast" Patterson..

Nice win..Defense looking a lot better...Is it time to yell Big Blue..Need that pass rush..Beckham played a heck of a game...We need Eli Apple and Jennings fully back...Nice win...

IMHO, OBJ is just continuing to make himself a target. That can be both good and bad, I guess. Opens the field up for other receivers.

Never thought a kicking net was going to be an integral part of the Gint's offense...

TE is a major concern. Somersault Larry is killing me. Tye is a ok but not a receiving threat. I scanned the NFL practice squad and I see that Jerome Cunningham is in the Titans practice squad. They should sign him since he has been here before and he can't be any worse than Donnell.