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TMS @ 12/14/2008 11:10 PM
DEFENSE STEP UP & GET THE BALL BACK!
TMS @ 12/14/2008 11:16 PM
this is the game right here on these next 2 downs.
GKFv2 @ 12/14/2008 11:19 PM
PAthetic!!! fuck you giants i broke my remote!
TMS @ 12/14/2008 11:20 PM
game over... ugh... that was a pitiful defensive sequence.
VDesai @ 12/14/2008 11:24 PM
One loss like this you can take, 2 in a row is a problem. Giants offense with no meaningful drives in 2 weeks. Allowing 7 sacks tonight is dreadful. Injuries and lack of playmakers has clearly caught up with the team, and they'll go limping into the playoffs.
Knicksfan @ 12/14/2008 11:29 PM
Horrible game. Second consecutive bummer. And now, just about to begin the playoffs.

Horrible
TMS @ 12/14/2008 11:40 PM
next week's game is the one that really counts... it's for Home Field advantage in the playoffs & it's in our house... if the Giants lay another egg next week, then it's definitely time to worry... right now we're still in a tie for best record in the NFC... 2 bad games in a row sucks but they got a chance to redeem themselves next week... that's for top dawg honors in the NFC vs. a terrific running attack that the Panthers have... the defense better get plenty of rest this week.
VDesai @ 12/15/2008 12:02 AM
I'll be there next week. Its a better matchup for us in the sense that Delhomme will put the ball up for grabs and we are generally strong against the run (except when we're worn out at the end of the game, like tonight and the week before). However, if Kareem McKenzie can't go and we have to have Kevin Boothe out there again against Julius Peppers....well then you can kiss homefield good night.
toodarkmark @ 12/15/2008 12:05 AM
Oh well. Two rough games, but I really think we miss Jacobs more than anything. I don't want to back into the playoffs, and we had a chance to destroy the Cowboys playoff chances, and the infighting would have destroyed them. We missed a big chance to drive a dagger in 'em.

Well let's hope they got at least one more victory in them before the playoffs.
TMS @ 12/15/2008 12:09 AM
we gotta win next week to own the tiebreaker... week 16's game is meaningless.
VDesai @ 12/15/2008 12:25 AM
Well at least we locked up Webster tonight.
VDesai @ 12/15/2008 12:28 AM
Posted by TMS:

we gotta win next week to own the tiebreaker... week 16's game is meaningless.

Not meaningless if we lose next week. Minnesota could theoretically tie our record by beating us in Week 17, and then own the head to head tiebreaker, which would mean we'd have to play in the Wild Card round. And who would be our most likely opponent? Dallas.
TMS @ 12/15/2008 12:59 AM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by TMS:

we gotta win next week to own the tiebreaker... week 16's game is meaningless.

Not meaningless if we lose next week. Minnesota could theoretically tie our record by beating us in Week 17, and then own the head to head tiebreaker, which would mean we'd have to play in the Wild Card round. And who would be our most likely opponent? Dallas.

do divisional winners usually play the divisional rival WC team in the 1st round?
VDesai @ 12/15/2008 1:03 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by TMS:

we gotta win next week to own the tiebreaker... week 16's game is meaningless.

Not meaningless if we lose next week. Minnesota could theoretically tie our record by beating us in Week 17, and then own the head to head tiebreaker, which would mean we'd have to play in the Wild Card round. And who would be our most likely opponent? Dallas.

do divisional winners usually play the divisional rival WC team in the 1st round?

We did 2 yrs ago against Philadelphia....
TMS @ 12/15/2008 1:11 AM
dunno why but i thought it worked the same way as it does in baseball for some reason.
Vmart @ 12/15/2008 1:34 PM
Thanks Plaxico, you F'ing moron.


The Giants are not playing well and are mailing games in especially the offense vs Dallas. Next game is the one that decides home field they are letting the schedule decide their fate. I don't know if home field will help the Giants or hurt them in the playoffs, Giant stadium hasn't been the best home field for the giants in the past.

It simple now beat Carolina and the Giants bring everyone to the them. I think the Giants have been planning this whole thing out lately. Don't show to much of the game plans so other team pick up on what they do well and what they don't do well.
VDesai @ 12/15/2008 2:44 PM
I think there was a perfect storm of sorts yesterday.

1) You had Plax out and you needed the other WR's to adjust and raise their game. They have not in these last 2 games. Hixon has now dropped 2 game changing passes.

2) You basically saw them ill-equipped to block DeMarcus Ware, and to compound that, Kareem McKenzie and Rich Seubert went down during the game with injuries. Any time you lose 2 starters on the OL in the same game you are going to have issues. The Giants couldn't protect Eli at all yesterday and he was sacked 8 times and didn't have enough time to get anything done passing the football.

3) The loss of Brandon Jacobs can't be understated. He typically gets 5-6 yards on first down. That allows the Giants to pass on non-obvious passing downs, and gives them a lot more flexibility in 2nd and short, 3rd and short situations. In addition, he rarely goes down on first contact. Runs where Derrick Ward gets 3, Jacobs gets 5. Jake can also fall forward at the line and get 2 yards on plays where there's nothing.

So in short the Giants had a lot going against them offensively. Clearly they need to overcome this to win the Super Bowl, but at least 2/3 issues can be taken care of by players coming back healthy.
TMS @ 12/15/2008 6:02 PM
it's essential that we win next week so we get the bye in week 1 & get guys back healthy again.
VDesai @ 12/16/2008 5:47 PM
Giants sign CB Webster to 5-year, $43M extension

Associated Press

Updated: December 15, 2008, 2:48 PM ET

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Corey Webster, who has developed into one the NFL's top cornerbacks over the past year, signed a five-year, $43 million contract extension with the New York Giants on Monday.

Webster will receive $20 million in guaranteed money under the deal that runs through 2013. The fourth-year player would have been a free agent at the end of the season.

"Corey has been a outstanding person and player in his short career for the Giants," general manager Jerry Reese said. "We are very happy to get this deal done."

Webster has started every game at right cornerback this season. He has three interceptions, tied with fellow cornerback Aaron Ross for the team lead. He also has two forced fumbles.

"He really came into his own the latter part of last year, and that has carried over into the 2008 season, where he has shown that he is one of the top corners in the league," Reese said Sunday evening.

Webster was the Giants' second-round draft choice in 2005, the 43rd overall selection. After being benched early in the year, he moved into the starting lineup for the playoffs when Sam Madison suffered a sports hernia.

Webster held Tampa Bay's Joey Galloway to one catch in the NFC wild-card game. A week later, he had five tackles, broke up a pass and helped limit Dallas to 182 yards passing in the divisional playoff.

Webster set up the Giants' overtime victory in the NFC title game when he intercepted Brett Favre in Green Bay. In the Super Bowl, he helped limit Randy Moss to five catches.
TMS @ 12/16/2008 8:55 PM
congrats to our Pro-Bowler G-Men:

Eli Manning
Justin Tuck
Shaun O'Hara
Chris Snee
John Carney
Jeff Feagles
TMS @ 12/17/2008 4:26 AM
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/comments/new-york-giants-sign-wr-derek-hagan-184208.html
New York Giants sign WR Derek Hagan
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December 16
Newark Star-Ledger


"After Sunday's loss to the Cowboys, Giants coach Tom Coughlin was asked if there are enough weapons on offense without Plaxico Burress.

"There's got to be," Coughlin said. "This is our team."

Well, their team added another potential weapon today. The Giants have signed former Dolphins wide receiver Derek Hagan, according to someone familiar with Hagan's signing who requested anonymity because the team hasn't announced the move yet.

Hagan, the Dolphins' third-round pick in 2006, worked out for the Giants last week. The 24-year-old, who had 53 catches for 645 yards and three touchdowns in three seasons with Miami, had been a free agent since the Dolphins cut him early last month.

The 6-2, 215-pound Hagan came out of Arizona State with a reputation as a solid route runner with decent speed. The problem during his time with Miami was his hands, as he dropped several passes. Hagan played the split end - or "X" receiver - position with the Dolphins, so perhaps that's where the Giants envision him playing. That's where Burress played and is now where Domenik Hixon most often lines up."
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