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SupremeCommander wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Reasons why we had a major collapse after going 5-0.

1. Kenny Phillips going down for the year.
2. Tuck had a so so season.
3. Osi was one dimensional.
4. Kiwi did not improve.
5. DT was a bust. Coefield was the only DT that showed up this year.
6. LBers. Sheesh.
7. OL got old quick. We could not open any holes.
8. Jacobs had a bad year. He looked like the Nigerian Nightmare at the end of his career. I hope he gets his wheels fixed for next year.
9. Bill Sheridan was a wrong hire.

Good things this year.
1. The young WRs look promising. Steve Smith and Nicks are a god send.
2. Eli looked good.

Needs for next year.

1. new LB corp
2. FS
3. SS
4. OL Depth
5. Run stopping DT. I miss Norman Hand for that 1 year. Dude did not get any pass rush but the opposing team could not run in the middle.

I want to see some Reese magic again.

Pretty much spot on

Liked your pecking order. Injury excuse doesn't fly with me because the FAs were acquired for "depth." The Sheridan excuse doesn't fly with me either because he was promoted to maintain "continuity." Really thought the head coach and general manager letdown in a big way for reasons previously mentioned.

It's an uncapped year, so I hope they blow up the defense and get the right pieces. I also hope they can get the right offensive pieces to get that smashmouth identity back, because I still have questions about Eli throwing in cold, swirling wind (but hopefully the new stadium solves that problem)

I want the defense fixed first but you are right about smashmouth football. Eli's strength is the play-action. I love Seubert and McKenzie but they got old quick. I want to see what we have in Beatty. Maybe move him to LT and move Diehl back to LG to replace Seubert. Diehl would have to take a pay cut as I don't see the Jints paying a LG LT money. We would need to get a smashmouth RT in the draft 4th or 5th round to backup McKenzie or replace him if he proves better in training camp.

Here is my draft strategy. My motto in the 1st round has always been best available player but I think we need to go draft-by-need here and get the best available LB or Safety.

1st Round - LB, SS, FS
2nd Round - LB, SS, FS
3rd Round - LB, SS, FS
4th Round - RT or LG
5th Round - RT or LG
6th Round - LB
7th Round - FB...Love Hedgecock's blocking but his stone hands is killing me.

Lots of names flying out there as a replacement DC but none sticking yet. Jerry Gray, Perry Fewell and Dick Jauron may be the most likely 3 right now.

I really hope we get a stud LB in the 1st round.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/gi...

Jets' Sutton to replace Sheridan; run defense

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Giants Blog

By PAUL SCHWARTZ

Last Updated: 2:26 PM, January 6, 2010

Might the Giants raid the Jets coaching staff to find a new defensive coordinator?

Perhaps. The National Football Post reports that Jets linebackers coach Bob Sutton has been targeted as the replacement for Bill Sheridan, who was fired one day after the Giants completed an 8-8 season.

Sutton, the former head coach at Army, has been with the Jets for the past 10 years. He was their defensive coordinator from 2006-08 and has worked for four different head coaches with the Jets, a sign that he's a valued member of the staff.

Rex Ryan, when he took over this season, retained Sutton, who has done a solid job developing Jets linebackers. Still, Sutton last year hardly distinguished himself running the defense for Eric Mangini.

Sutton, 58, worked with Tom Coughlin on the Syracuse staff in 1974. If the Giants indeed are interested they'll have to wait to speak with Sutton, as the Jets have an AFC wild-card playoff game on Saturday in Cincinnati.

The first interview for the opening will go to Perry Fewell, who has strong ties to Coughlin. Fewell, 47, was the defensive backs coach in Jacksonville under Coughlin from 1998-2002 and will reportedly meet with his former boss tomorrow. Fewell in November took over as interim head coach in Buffalo after Dick Jauron was fired.

Jauron -- another former Coughlin assistant -- will also be considered by the Giants. Fewell is also a strong candidate for the Bears defensive coordinator job.

Another possibility is someone familiar to Giants fans: Romeo Crennel. He worked with Coughlin on Bill Parcells' Giants staff and was head coach of the Browns.

The Giants also could be in the market for a new offensive coordinator, as Kevin Gilbride is again a serious candidate in Oakland -- some say the No. 1 candidate -- if Tom Cable is fired. Quarterbacks coach Chris Palmer was an offensive coordinator for Coughlin in Jacksonville and would be a logical choice to move into that role once again.

Gilbride's contract with the Giants does not extend into next season.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/footba...

Former Giants linebacker Pepper Johnson could be Big Blue's next defensive coordinator, sources say

BY Ralph Vacchiano
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Wednesday, January 6th 2010, 4:00 AM

Sources say Pepper Johnson, a former Giants linebacker and current Patriots defensive line coach, says he would be "very interested" in becoming the next Giants' defensive coordinator.

Tom Coughlin is looking for a coordinator who can return the Giants' defense to its former glory. And to do that, he might reach back into the Giants' past.

Pepper Johnson, the former Giants linebacker and current Patriots defensive line coach, is not only a possible candidate, he would also be "very interested" in the job, according to two people familiar with his thinking. He has never been a defensive coordinator, but he has won two Super Bowl rings as a player and three as a Patriots assistant.

He also is a brilliant defensive mind, according to those who know him, and his presence and winning background would certainly get the attention of the Giants' deflated defensive players.

"Yeah, definitely, it would be instant respect," said Carl Banks, the former Giants linebacker and a teammate of Johnson's from 1986-92. "But even if they know nothing of his history and care nothing about Giant tradition, they'll respect his knowledge of the game. They'll respect the success he has in this league and the teams he's coached."

Johnson, 45, has been a defensive assistant under Bill Belichick for 10 seasons, after lasting 13 years as a player in the NFL. In all, this will be his 16th season playing or coaching for the man Banks called "one of the brightest minds in football."

And according to Banks, who is part of the Giants' broadcast team on WFAN, that pedigree should count for a lot when Coughlin considers a replacement for Bill Sheridan, who was fired Monday after one miserable season as defensive coordinator.

"You could get another guy that might be bright, but in my opinion you've got to look at everything," Banks said. "You've got to bring a guy who subscribes to winning principles and has been a part of it. You look at the Yankees. They don't settle. The Yankees don't bring in guys that could be good. They bring in guys that are good.

"And if you listen closely to what John Mara said (on Monday), I think it's pretty clear what his standard is."

What's not clear is where Johnson sits on Coughlin's short list, which one team source said is actually long. According to various team and NFL sources, it includes several coaches with defensive coordinator experience, including former Bills interim coach Perry Fewell, who was Coughlin's defensive backs coach in Jacksonville (1998-2002) and who will reportedly interview for the job tomorrow.

Other experienced candidates on the list include former Bills and Bears coach Dick Jauron, Coughlin's former defensive coordinator in Jacksonville (1995-98); Jets linebackers coach Bob Sutton (the Jets defensive coordinator from 2006-08) and Dolphins linebackers coach George Edwards (the Redskins defensive coordinator from 2002-03).

It may also include Dom Capers, another of Coughlin's former Jacksonville defensive coordinators, although Capers currently holds that job with the Packers and makes more than $2million per year. Also available is Romeo Crennel, the former Browns head coach and Giants assistant who ran Belichick's defense in New England from 2001-04.

But according to a team source, previous experience as a defensive coordinator isn't necessarily a requirement. And it shouldn't be, Banks said.

"When you look at what's needed to straighten out the defense, it's a culture that's conducive to accountability and winning," he said. "That's how (Johnson) was brought up as a player. And then if you take the intangibles, I guarantee you guys will work for him."

There's no real "exciting" name out there. Jerry Gray from Washington is a Gregg Williams disciple and may be a good choice. Romeo Crennell is out there but he's a 3-4 guy and everyone always says he rode Belichick's coattails a bit. Dick Jauron is a big name but he's really unexciting.

What I'm worried about is there's some talk the Raiders or Bills want to hire Kevin Gilbride and a few teams may also be after Chris Palmer. I dont want to have to replace both coordinators.

TMS wrote:Romeo Crennell is an interesting name... he's a Parcell's disciple... also intrigued by the Pepper Johnson idea, tho he doesn't have prior experience as a DC.

I would be very surprised if the Giants actually hired Romeo since he's a 3-4 guy.. I don't think Tom is interested in switching over to that. Des can confirm/deny?

nyk4ever wrote:

TMS wrote:Romeo Crennell is an interesting name... he's a Parcell's disciple... also intrigued by the Pepper Johnson idea, tho he doesn't have prior experience as a DC.

I would be very surprised if the Giants actually hired Romeo since he's a 3-4 guy.. I don't think Tom is interested in switching over to that. Des can confirm/deny?

We definitely have an interest and are supposedly gonna talk to him Monday. Romeo's agent is quoted in the papers today as saying that if Tom wanted Romeo to move to a 4-3 he would do so. That being said Romeo has only ever coached in a 3-4 from what I recall.

The Giants would actually have the start of some personnell for the 3-4. Kiwi and Osi could potentially play OLB. I think you lose some of Tuck's value but he's played inside and probably has the strength to play a 3-4 End. Canty was a 3-4 end on Dallas. You'd have to find a Nose Tackle and some ILB's but as it is they need a MLB and some DT's anyway.

Would not be my preference to move to a 3-4 but not something I would completely rule out at this point. Tom's job is on the line with this hire so he's gonna bring in the guy he's most comfortable with.

TMS wrote:Romeo Crennell is an interesting name... he's a Parcell's disciple... also intrigued by the Pepper Johnson idea, tho he doesn't have prior experience as a DC.

I like Pepper, but without any prior coordinator experience he'd be percieved as somewhat of a "risky" hire. I think he deserves an interview. He also may be more of a 3-4 guy.

NYKBocker wrote:Looks like Perry Fewell is our new DC.
http://twitter.com/NFLLiveonESPN

where do u see that Twitted?

TMS wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Looks like Perry Fewell is our new DC.
http://twitter.com/NFLLiveonESPN

where do u see that Twitted?

I guess they removed it. It was there this morning.