Off Topic · Clinton now leads McCain by 9 points (page 1)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080428/ap_on_el_pr/presidential_race_ap_poll

This is what I fear--that Hillary will lose the democratic nomination and barack will lose the presedential election when i KNOW that a ticket with a headliner of Hillary with VP Obama would wipe him out. Obama could be President for 8 years after Hillary and we can take the White House for 16 years. But I have a bad feeling

Posted by BRIGGS:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080428/ap_on_el_pr/presidential_race_ap_poll

This is what I fear--that Hillary will lose the democratic nomination and barack will lose the presedential election when i KNOW that a ticket with a headliner of Hillary with VP Obama would wipe him out. Obama could be President for 8 years after Hillary and we can take the White House for 16 years. But I have a bad feeling

Why would Hillary pick a VP running mate who she says isn't ready to be commander in chief? She'd never be able to defend that choice.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by BRIGGS:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080428/ap_on_el_pr/presidential_race_ap_poll

This is what I fear--that Hillary will lose the democratic nomination and barack will lose the presedential election when i KNOW that a ticket with a headliner of Hillary with VP Obama would wipe him out. Obama could be President for 8 years after Hillary and we can take the White House for 16 years. But I have a bad feeling

Why would Hillary pick a VP running mate who she says isn't ready to be commander in chief? She'd never be able to defend that choice.

Thats not what she said--get your facts straight.

The dynastic politics is completely unAmerican and has to end here. The Clintons are strange birds. They have some very strange connections that have been kept quiet and bother me to the point where I could never vote for them.

This is the link from my other post. Some of it is likely BS. I'm not a conspiracy believer, but if you dig into the actual news reports of the episodes surrounding Mena Airport, Roger Clinton, Ollie North, Iran Contra, etc. it gets disturbing in a hurry.

http://www.ncoic.com/clinton.htm

Maybe some laws were broken, maybe some people died, maybe there were cover-ups... none of that bothers me too much to be honest. Some nasty stuff has to be done... whatever.

The thing is though, you've got Bush Sr. who ran the CIA before he was a VP, was involved in all of that Iran Contra sh*t with Ollie North, Cheany, and the rest of the old guard that's still around. Now, if Bill Clinton was involved in that stuff... what do you have here? You've got some very very strange bedfellows here and a lineage of executive rule that has gone uninterrupted for 30+ years and electing Hillary would extend that.

You combine that with the fact that McCain had his strange "come to Jesus" moment with Bush where he ceased being the Mavrick and became the party line guy, and the fact that either one of them will say or do anything to crush the outsider Obama. Its wierd. No matter what is going on it feels icky.

Why is the press running Wright highlight reels like he's Tiger Woods winning the Grand Slam? He's the same dude that the Clintons invited to the White House to help them deal with the Monica episode. He was good enough for Hillary and Bill then wasn't he? Some of Clinton's staff belongs to his church. Is he still too radical for Hillary?

Hillary says she'll "obliterate Iran" no press follow-up. Really?

Hillary was asked when the last time was that she attended church or shot a gun after her Annie Oakley stories. "That's not relavent to the election," she said. No press follow-up. Really?

Again, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but the United States should be above even the suspicion of the types of things that conspiracy theorists will be able to conclude if Obama is taken down.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by BRIGGS:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080428/ap_on_el_pr/presidential_race_ap_poll

This is what I fear--that Hillary will lose the democratic nomination and barack will lose the presedential election when i KNOW that a ticket with a headliner of Hillary with VP Obama would wipe him out. Obama could be President for 8 years after Hillary and we can take the White House for 16 years. But I have a bad feeling

Why would Hillary pick a VP running mate who she says isn't ready to be commander in chief? She'd never be able to defend that choice.

Thats not what she said--get your facts straight.

It's what she implied when she said she would be ready from day 1 and McCain would be ready from day 1, but explicitly refused to say the same about Obama. And then it's what she implied with the 3AM ad. Maybe you can't see any inconsistency there but the public will.

Posted by JohnWallace44:

The dynastic politics is completely unAmerican and has to end here. The Clintons are strange birds. They have some very strange connections that have been kept quiet and bother me to the point where I could never vote for them.

This is the link from my other post. Some of it is likely BS. I'm not a conspiracy believer, but if you dig into the actual news reports of the episodes surrounding Mena Airport, Roger Clinton, Ollie North, Iran Contra, etc. it gets disturbing in a hurry.

http://www.ncoic.com/clinton.htm

Maybe some laws were broken, maybe some people died, maybe there were cover-ups... none of that bothers me too much to be honest. Some nasty stuff has to be done... whatever.

The thing is though, you've got Bush Sr. who ran the CIA before he was a VP, was involved in all of that Iran Contra sh*t with Ollie North, Cheany, and the rest of the old guard that's still around. Now, if Bill Clinton was involved in that stuff... what do you have here? You've got some very very strange bedfellows here and a lineage of executive rule that has gone uninterrupted for 30+ years and electing Hillary would extend that.

You combine that with the fact that McCain had his strange "come to Jesus" moment with Bush where he ceased being the Mavrick and became the party line guy, and the fact that either one of them will say or do anything to crush the outsider Obama. Its wierd. No matter what is going on it feels icky.

Why is the press running Wright highlight reels like he's Tiger Woods winning the Grand Slam? He's the same dude that the Clintons invited to the White House to help them deal with the Monica episode. He was good enough for Hillary and Bill then wasn't he? Some of Clinton's staff belongs to his church. Is he still too radical for Hillary?

Hillary says she'll "obliterate Iran" no press follow-up. Really?

Hillary was asked when the last time was that she attended church or shot a gun after her Annie Oakley stories. "That's not relavent to the election," she said. No press follow-up. Really?

Again, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but the United States should be above even the suspicion of the types of things that conspiracy theorists will be able to conclude if Obama is taken down.

I don't understand why people feel that they always have to make the excuse(i'm not a conspiracy theorist).

The way this country has been run you have to be brain dead not to see the many conspiracies that have taken place and how america has been hijacked and taken over by everybody outside of the united states.