Off Topic · Why are people ignoring what's going on with this mess of an economy? (page 3)

Posted by ramtour420:

Posted by TheGame:

The only thing saving us is that the price of gas is falling, which saves people alot of money. I think we need the government to take over the bad mortages AT A SUBSTANTIAL DISCOUNT, then refinance them at like 5% and let people stay in their homes. The taxpayers could actually make money if the deal is done right. This should free up credit and stop all the foreclosures. McCain actually suggested buying these mortgages at FACE VALUE. That would be a terrible mistake and only reward the mortgage companies while leaving taxpayers to take the loss.

[Edited by - thegame on 10-10-2008 07:25]

Thats a brilliant idea, maybe even lower than 5%, we are bailing out the banks anyway and if this money is just gonna enable them to give out more loans and mortgages its not a solution. On the other hand, if we allow the ppl to keep their houses and just give the banks enough $ not to close down(reduce interest to 0% for those with mortgages and instead just give the banks the interest$) that might be a bigger boost to the economy, imho.

Well, I did read an article about someone suggesting whether the banks should just buy up a lot of this foreclosed real estate with the lowered prices and start giving loans to those who can pay monthly installments until it's bought off. That's an awful lot of money to invest. At least they'd control one end of it and it could' get things rolling again with loaning and real estate. Not to mention they'd probably be some of the biggest property owners in the field.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by djsunyc:

one terrorist attack on the united states led us to this point. it seems like this was the long term intention for provoking the US to enter a war it probably can't win...

It was only a small part of the hurt. The biggest part was people taking out loans for homes they could not afford and lenders giving them the avenue to do so. If you make 4 K a month and you take out a mortgage for 3k a month--then you are pretty F stupid and the lender is worse. And this happened oh say a couple of mm times over the last 8 years. Then when you cant afford to pay for it--you start buying your daily needs with CC or home equity loans. The cost of war was stupid but it couldve been absorbed. The CC mess is probably 1200 time worse.

They did that with the credit card industry also. I got suckered into several cards, about 15 years ago, built up a debt and finally, finally got the crap paid off. They opened up the flood gates to get you committed to something you didn't realize that you were getting yourself into . So many people are in debt with credit cards today and so it sounds like the same thing is happening with the real estate (or has been), and the only difference is 'they finally got caught doing it. But do they pay? Hell no! The Government bails them out (or so they say) and we poor saps have our taxes shot up to cover their asses.

And that's another question! The 700 billion is approved and the economy is still going south? What happens to that money? This is why I smell a rat!

Posted by ramtour420:

Our military spending is freaking retarded. With the $ we spent in Iraq we could have given EVERYONE in this country free health insurance AND develop+ put to work alternative energy sources to reduce our dependence on oil. The leftover $ would probably be enough to pay off the national debt or at least a part of it- instead we literally got screwed.

Let's say that I'm the government. 'Why help those out with this enormous amount of money, when I can turn them into a legalized 'slave state' and just keep driving them all to do my bidding? To make me (us gov guys and gals) even richer. Hell' government is a business and big profit making one at that.

I have the perfect example. A little place called New Orleans. Had a major flood, killed many people and the government, who put into place billions of dollars to help relief efforts to help the devastated area, all they had to show for it was 'A WALL'! Were did all of that money go?? Dictatorships are usually profit making entities anyway aren't they?

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by ramtour420:

Our military spending is freaking retarded. With the $ we spent in Iraq we could have given EVERYONE in this country free health insurance AND develop+ put to work alternative energy sources to reduce our dependence on oil. The leftover $ would probably be enough to pay off the national debt or at least a part of it- instead we literally got screwed.

We're at a place now where things are already in motion. A lot of people who predicted this stuff have been predicting it for generations.

I can back that up with everything I been seeing and hearing over about 20 years. And I once saw an interview of a man, who was in the financial fields pretty much his whole career. He was interviewed and talking about selling his home and 'renting' from now on and getting whatever work he could find. This interview took place about 15 years ago and I never forgot it. He was very serious and he was telling the audience of what was going to happen. Of course, I think he thought it was going to happen sooner, but now that it is happening, I think of that guys interview. He was talking about a life of the bare essentials. Food, water, a roof over the head for him and his family and the means to live a very simple life. He said this is what it is going to become. The host of course looked at him the whole time with a look on his face that said 'your absolutely crazy'. I want to say it was "60 Minutes", but I can't be for certain.

Posted by 4949:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Man, my car was shaking a lot on the highway. So I took it to the dealership today. I have to get new tires and new breaks: $700 total (not covered by the extended warranty). That sucks! I'm new to "car ownership" and I'm not used to these surprise expenses!

New tires and brakes for 700$ is pretty cheap.

Bonn, see if you can find something on eBay. And then pay less to have them installed.

Car tires or breaks from E-Bay? I don't know about that. That's not something I want to take a risk with. I already had it done anyway. It actually came to $646. I guess that's not too bad.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Man, my car was shaking a lot on the highway. So I took it to the dealership today. I have to get new tires and new breaks: $700 total (not covered by the extended warranty). That sucks! I'm new to "car ownership" and I'm not used to these surprise expenses!

New tires and brakes for 700$ is pretty cheap.

I'm not sure if GM uses standardized prices throughout the nation but most things seem to be a lot cheaper in the south.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_meltdown

So what they are going to do is take your money--give it to the banks[although you have a stake] and let them go business as usual with the caveat that that they are just a tad smarter this time around. Now we have to wait and see what they do with the massive inventory and toxic paper. They have to find a floor in the housing market before there is any kind of turn around and we wont even know where that is for another 2 years at a minimum.

Posted by 4949:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

We are slowly getting set up for the "Mark of the beast"(666). Our National dept is in the trillions, we are never going to repay. The economy is going down fast.

Eventually the prophecy is going to come to pass of the one world currency system. The chip that we will put either in our right hand or our forehead. Which would be 666 mark of the beast.

America is going to eventually get so desperate because of war and the economy that they are going to set up a one world government. There we be a man who comes out of the middle east that will sign a 7yr pack to be the head of the one world government. For the first 3 1/2 yrs he is going to fix all of or most of the problems we face. He will fix the economy(666), he will bring peace in the middle east and end the war over there. He will do many great things and some will even proclaim that he is God. But after his 3 1/2 yrs is over he will become possessed by the Antichrist and he is going to proclaim that he is God and that everyone must worship him or die. From that day we will have 12hundred days left until Jesus christ returns and brings his children out of this world and into the kingdom of heaven.

What in Gods name are you talking about??!!!!

Wow I thought everyone has heard of this prophecy. I will break it down for you. Jesus made a prophecy to his disciples when he was to return to take his children out of this world. God is going to pass or already has passed judgment on America for casting him aside, getting away from him and turning wicked. Just like great nations of Egypt and Greece and Rome have all fallen. America will fall during the last days before heaven comes down on earth. Gods children (the ones who are saved) will rise up to heaven for the great feast. All those who are not saved will be judged but will be forgiven after admit they are sinners and accept Christ as there savior. The devil will be chained up for a 1000yrs and there will be no thoughts of sin at all. God will then show us the real way to live life. The devil will then be released. He will go and collect his children for the final battle of Armageddon. The devil will lose and be gone for eternity.

The prophecy stats that a great city in America is going to be destroyed in one hour by a nuclear missile from the north leaving America's government & financial leaders weeping and mourning. That is what is going to make them vulnerable enough to allow a one world government. Which leads into my first post on this topic.

Those who believe now without seeing will be made rulers of land in heaven. Those who believe after seeing will be normal civilians. If you believe me or not is your choice. Just know that when a great city in America falls to a nuclear missile leaving the government and financial leaders weeping. That I was telling the truth so at least you have a heads up. God is not a liar, all his prophecies have all come to pass. As will this one. What ever you do do not accept the mark of the beast when they set up the one world currency system. That mark shows that you belong to the devil and you will be damned.

Posted by BRIGGS:



So what they are going to do is take your money--give it to the banks[although you have a stake] and let them go business as usual with the caveat that that they are just a tad smarter this time around. Now we have to wait and see what they do with the massive inventory and toxic paper. They have to find a floor in the housing market before there is any kind of turn around and we wont even know where that is for another 2 years at a minimum.

BRIGGS, your killing me. Come on man!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011/ap_o...

Personally, I think this administration and whoever else is in on it are getting ready to make a financial killing. I think they been the whole time. Remember when George wanted to take over our taxes and give us' the money? Nobody wanted it, because they smelled a rat. This administration and everyone else involved with it are always looking for disaster (or opportunities) situations to pour money into it, as a way to cipher most of it into their own pockets.

Maybe this explains for example 'the large police forces that have been put together over the last number of years, in order to control the crowds physically if need be, when people are starting to be onto to what's been going on'.

I know this is a bold statement, but looking at the whole picture, this whole thing, since bush's first stolen election took place just seems like it's all been planned.

newyorknewyork, I think the powers that be are taking quotes from things like the bible and using this opportune time to strike fear into the American people (world people) to cause people to believe that this is all meant to be. A way to control people into doing whatever they want us to do. It's like a bunch of robbers who divert attention somewhere else, so they can sneak away. We have started to see the word 'PANIC' on the fronts of our newspapers lately. I think they want' us all to panic and take our money out of the banks and so forth, to take it to the next step! As long as the American people stay calm and don't react, then I think we'll be just fine and start to see what has been going on this whole time.

The next level would be anarchy and confusion. I say to you folks and many, many others 'don't do it'. Don't fall into another trap with these guys up there running this whole show with puppet strings. Understand what's really going on behind all of this. The numbers for years have been telling us what was going to happen, but there are also opportunist out there who take advantage of these kinds of things and I believe they are in our own governments at this time.

We americans messed up when we let George Bush and Dick Chaney into the White house. The worst possible decision made by the people of the US. I am praying to God every single night that McCain doesn't win because it is going the same as having Bush and Chaney running the country into the groound. After Osama the next biggest terrorist to the US has to be Bush and Chaney.

Posted by Vmart:

We americans messed up when we let George Bush and Dick Chaney into the White house. The worst possible decision made by the people of the US. I am praying to God every single night that McCain doesn't win because it is going the same as having Bush and Chaney running the country into the groound. After Osama the next biggest terrorist to the US has to be Bush and Chaney.

You sure you got the order right?

Posted by 4949:

Personally, I think this administration and whoever else is in on it are getting ready to make a financial killing. I think they been the whole time. Remember when George wanted to take over our taxes and give us' the money? Nobody wanted it, because they smelled a rat. This administration and everyone else involved with it are always looking for disaster (or opportunities) situations to pour money into it, as a way to cipher most of it into their own pockets.

Maybe this explains for example 'the large police forces that have been put together over the last number of years, in order to control the crowds physically if need be, when people are starting to be onto to what's been going on'.

I know this is a bold statement, but looking at the whole picture, this whole thing, since bush's first stolen election took place just seems like it's all been planned.

newyorknewyork, I think the powers that be are taking quotes from things like the bible and using this opportune time to strike fear into the American people (world people) to cause people to believe that this is all meant to be. A way to control people into doing whatever they want us to do. It's like a bunch of robbers who divert attention somewhere else, so they can sneak away. We have started to see the word 'PANIC' on the fronts of our newspapers lately. I think they want' us all to panic and take our money out of the banks and so forth, to take it to the next step! As long as the American people stay calm and don't react, then I think we'll be just fine and start to see what has been going on this whole time.

The next level would be anarchy and confusion. I say to you folks and many, many others 'don't do it'. Don't fall into another trap with these guys up there running this whole show with puppet strings. Understand what's really going on behind all of this. The numbers for years have been telling us what was going to happen, but there are also opportunist out there who take advantage of these kinds of things and I believe they are in our own governments at this time.

The prophecy of "the end time" isn't a new thing and hasn't just formed now. It has been the same since Jesus first spoke it until now. My Father & Mother when they joined the family at 18yrs old and became missionary's were taught about the end time. I was taught it when I was 7yrs old. This isn't something I just found and read on the internet or newspaper recently.

The Catholic Church and the Pope at the time when they ruled and were corrupt did used the bible not create but used the bible to try and rule people. Along with false doctrine, as well as adding there own rules, buying and selling church positions, Selling forgiveness for sins. They were exposed during the Protestant Reformation and Martin Luther. Also that was before Williams Tyndale translated the New Testament into English allowing everyone even the poor to be able to ready the Bible not just the Catholic Church. Which we was later burned by the Catholic Church for doing so.

Things like this are exactly what the devil looks to do because it causes confusion and doubt. The heart of man is naturally evil. So if you don't get your spirit close to God you will leave yourself prey to be used by the devil in order to do the devils will which is to divide and cause confusion making people not know what to believe or lose faith. Then becoming worldly and materialistic leading to these type of acts.

If everyone truly followed the way God truly wanted us to live then life would be the gift and paradise that God intended it to be when he created it and created us to enjoy and praise & worship him for. But just like there is Gods children there is Satans children. God, Jesus, & the bible are real. Sure the devil has been able to influence men with weak spirits in order to make people lose faith, but they are real.

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by 4949:

Personally, I think this administration and whoever else is in on it are getting ready to make a financial killing. I think they been the whole time. Remember when George wanted to take over our taxes and give us' the money? Nobody wanted it, because they smelled a rat. This administration and everyone else involved with it are always looking for disaster (or opportunities) situations to pour money into it, as a way to cipher most of it into their own pockets.

Maybe this explains for example 'the large police forces that have been put together over the last number of years, in order to control the crowds physically if need be, when people are starting to be onto to what's been going on'.

I know this is a bold statement, but looking at the whole picture, this whole thing, since bush's first stolen election took place just seems like it's all been planned.

newyorknewyork, I think the powers that be are taking quotes from things like the bible and using this opportune time to strike fear into the American people (world people) to cause people to believe that this is all meant to be. A way to control people into doing whatever they want us to do. It's like a bunch of robbers who divert attention somewhere else, so they can sneak away. We have started to see the word 'PANIC' on the fronts of our newspapers lately. I think they want' us all to panic and take our money out of the banks and so forth, to take it to the next step! As long as the American people stay calm and don't react, then I think we'll be just fine and start to see what has been going on this whole time.

The next level would be anarchy and confusion. I say to you folks and many, many others 'don't do it'. Don't fall into another trap with these guys up there running this whole show with puppet strings. Understand what's really going on behind all of this. The numbers for years have been telling us what was going to happen, but there are also opportunist out there who take advantage of these kinds of things and I believe they are in our own governments at this time.

The prophecy of "the end time" isn't a new thing and hasn't just formed now. It has been the same since Jesus first spoke it until now. My Father & Mother when they joined the family at 18yrs old and became missionary's were taught about the end time. I was taught it when I was 7yrs old. This isn't something I just found and read on the internet or newspaper recently.

The Catholic Church and the Pope at the time when they ruled and were corrupt did used the bible not create but used the bible to try and rule people. Along with false doctrine, as well as adding there own rules, buying and selling church positions, Selling forgiveness for sins. They were exposed during the Protestant Reformation and Martin Luther. Also that was before Williams Tyndale translated the New Testament into English allowing everyone even the poor to be able to ready the Bible not just the Catholic Church. Which we was later burned by the Catholic Church for doing so.

Things like this are exactly what the devil looks to do because it causes confusion and doubt. The heart of man is naturally evil. So if you don't get your spirit close to God you will leave yourself prey to be used by the devil in order to do the devils will which is to divide and cause confusion making people not know what to believe or lose faith. Then becoming worldly and materialistic leading to these type of acts.

If everyone truly followed the way God truly wanted us to live then life would be the gift and paradise that God intended it to be when he created it and created us to enjoy and praise & worship him for. But just like there is Gods children there is Satans children. God, Jesus, & the bible are real. Sure the devil has been able to influence men with weak spirits in order to make people lose faith, but they are real.

The religious doctrines of any kind including Christian tradition and it’s Protestant brand is useful to make pure and uneducated people chose the way of progress a prosperity, reject violence and promote love and compassion among people.
But none of this is required for progressive and well educated people. They can make god from evil themselves.
The infinite battle between progressive and regressive ideas is going on inside the minds of all people and I cannot see any use of personification of this with images of angels, demons, gods, etc. They quite real without this primitive associations. As level of education and self recognition is gradually increasing all over the world the traditional religious propaganda will not be required any more. But for now they can still be useful if not used by criminals and idiots.

Everyone should follow the way of God weather they are poor or rich a so called genious or a so called idiot. While being poor may cause some to live unorderly. The rich are very prone to being corrupt themselves. They may not think they need God in order to live orderly. But they definatly need God if they wish to save there souls. While they may live the rich life for the limited amount of yrs they have on earth. They will not live that life without God when heaven is on earth for eternity. If everyone truly lived the way God wanted us to like "Love they neighbor as thyself". "Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you". "Forgive your neighbor sins against you so that God may forgive you for your sins". "Be fruitfull and multiply" get married, make love(the gift that God created) and teach your children about God. Don't have any Gods before God, Don't worship idols(money is a form of idol) don't kill, don't steal, don't lie. Don't lust after your neighbors wife, don't sleep with your neighbors wife. Don't lust after anything that belongs to someone else. Honor your mother and father. Tithe by giving 10% of your earnings to the poor. Then the world would be trillions times better than it is today not just on a moral level but on a happiness level.

The problem is that mans heart is naturally evil. People want to sin by nature. Its impossible not to sin. Greed, lust, selfishness are in a mans heart. But many people can't handle the feeling of guilt because of there desire to sin. So they separate themselves from God, discredit the bible, choose the world over God rather then own up to there sins. You can never earn making it to heaven. No matter how many good deeds you do. Only through the gift that God has given us through the death of Jesus are we saved from our sins for those who accept him.

Sure if the belief in God was very strong and many people lived there life through religion there would be people at the top who through title but weak spirits will be tempted by greed and selfishness since it is in mans heart and look to exploit them doing the devils work for worldly riches and power. But that doesn't mean we should go away from God all together. Everyone rich, poor, smart, stupid, needs to have there own spiritual connection with God through prayer and reading his word every day while trying to live life as moral as you possibly could.

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Everyone should follow the way of God weather they are poor or rich a so called genious or a so called idiot. While being poor may cause some to live unorderly. The rich are very prone to being corrupt themselves. They may not think they need God in order to live orderly. But they definatly need God if they wish to save there souls. While they may live the rich life for the limited amount of yrs they have on earth. They will not live that life without God when heaven is on earth for eternity. If everyone truly lived the way God wanted us to like "Love they neighbor as thyself". "Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you". "Forgive your neighbor sins against you so that God may forgive you for your sins". "Be fruitfull and multiply" get married, make love(the gift that God created) and teach your children about God. Don't have any Gods before God, Don't worship idols(money is a form of idol) don't kill, don't steal, don't lie. Don't lust after your neighbors wife, don't sleep with your neighbors wife. Don't lust after anything that belongs to someone else. Honor your mother and father. Tithe by giving 10% of your earnings to the poor. Then the world would be trillions times better than it is today not just on a moral level but on a happiness level.

The problem is that mans heart is naturally evil. People want to sin by nature. Its impossible not to sin. Greed, lust, selfishness are in a mans heart. But many people can't handle the feeling of guilt because of there desire to sin. So they separate themselves from God, discredit the bible, choose the world over God rather then own up to there sins. You can never earn making it to heaven. No matter how many good deeds you do. Only through the gift that God has given us through the death of Jesus are we saved from our sins for those who accept him.

Sure if the belief in God was very strong and many people lived there life through religion there would be people at the top who through title but weak spirits will be tempted by greed and selfishness since it is in mans heart and look to exploit them doing the devils work for worldly riches and power. But that doesn't mean we should go away from God all together. Everyone rich, poor, smart, stupid, needs to have there own spiritual connection with God through prayer and reading his word every day while trying to live life as moral as you possibly could.

Right, and exactly what does this have to do with why people are ignoring the economic mess?

Posted by loweyecue:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Everyone should follow the way of God weather they are poor or rich a so called genious or a so called idiot. While being poor may cause some to live unorderly. The rich are very prone to being corrupt themselves. They may not think they need God in order to live orderly. But they definatly need God if they wish to save there souls. While they may live the rich life for the limited amount of yrs they have on earth. They will not live that life without God when heaven is on earth for eternity. If everyone truly lived the way God wanted us to like "Love they neighbor as thyself". "Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you". "Forgive your neighbor sins against you so that God may forgive you for your sins". "Be fruitfull and multiply" get married, make love(the gift that God created) and teach your children about God. Don't have any Gods before God, Don't worship idols(money is a form of idol) don't kill, don't steal, don't lie. Don't lust after your neighbors wife, don't sleep with your neighbors wife. Don't lust after anything that belongs to someone else. Honor your mother and father. Tithe by giving 10% of your earnings to the poor. Then the world would be trillions times better than it is today not just on a moral level but on a happiness level.

The problem is that mans heart is naturally evil. People want to sin by nature. Its impossible not to sin. Greed, lust, selfishness are in a mans heart. But many people can't handle the feeling of guilt because of there desire to sin. So they separate themselves from God, discredit the bible, choose the world over God rather then own up to there sins. You can never earn making it to heaven. No matter how many good deeds you do. Only through the gift that God has given us through the death of Jesus are we saved from our sins for those who accept him.

Sure if the belief in God was very strong and many people lived there life through religion there would be people at the top who through title but weak spirits will be tempted by greed and selfishness since it is in mans heart and look to exploit them doing the devils work for worldly riches and power. But that doesn't mean we should go away from God all together. Everyone rich, poor, smart, stupid, needs to have there own spiritual connection with God through prayer and reading his word every day while trying to live life as moral as you possibly could.

Right, and exactly what does this have to do with why people are ignoring the economic mess?

Because if you follow the way of God the economic mess is irrelevant.
You lost money, or job, or retirement savings... just pray and you will be OK.
And this rich bustards, which are evil, will burn in hell, because they took all the things mentioned above from you.
So take food-stamps and welfare and be happy.

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by loweyecue:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Everyone should follow the way of God weather they are poor or rich a so called genious or a so called idiot. While being poor may cause some to live unorderly. The rich are very prone to being corrupt themselves. They may not think they need God in order to live orderly. But they definatly need God if they wish to save there souls. While they may live the rich life for the limited amount of yrs they have on earth. They will not live that life without God when heaven is on earth for eternity. If everyone truly lived the way God wanted us to like "Love they neighbor as thyself". "Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you". "Forgive your neighbor sins against you so that God may forgive you for your sins". "Be fruitfull and multiply" get married, make love(the gift that God created) and teach your children about God. Don't have any Gods before God, Don't worship idols(money is a form of idol) don't kill, don't steal, don't lie. Don't lust after your neighbors wife, don't sleep with your neighbors wife. Don't lust after anything that belongs to someone else. Honor your mother and father. Tithe by giving 10% of your earnings to the poor. Then the world would be trillions times better than it is today not just on a moral level but on a happiness level.

The problem is that mans heart is naturally evil. People want to sin by nature. Its impossible not to sin. Greed, lust, selfishness are in a mans heart. But many people can't handle the feeling of guilt because of there desire to sin. So they separate themselves from God, discredit the bible, choose the world over God rather then own up to there sins. You can never earn making it to heaven. No matter how many good deeds you do. Only through the gift that God has given us through the death of Jesus are we saved from our sins for those who accept him.

Sure if the belief in God was very strong and many people lived there life through religion there would be people at the top who through title but weak spirits will be tempted by greed and selfishness since it is in mans heart and look to exploit them doing the devils work for worldly riches and power. But that doesn't mean we should go away from God all together. Everyone rich, poor, smart, stupid, needs to have there own spiritual connection with God through prayer and reading his word every day while trying to live life as moral as you possibly could.

Right, and exactly what does this have to do with why people are ignoring the economic mess?

Because if you follow the way of God the economic mess is irrelevant.
You lost money, or job, or retirement savings... just pray and you will be OK.

George Bush stole your password and is posting here? Cool.

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by 4949:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

We are slowly getting set up for the "Mark of the beast"(666). Our National dept is in the trillions, we are never going to repay. The economy is going down fast.

Eventually the prophecy is going to come to pass of the one world currency system. The chip that we will put either in our right hand or our forehead. Which would be 666 mark of the beast.

America is going to eventually get so desperate because of war and the economy that they are going to set up a one world government. There we be a man who comes out of the middle east that will sign a 7yr pack to be the head of the one world government. For the first 3 1/2 yrs he is going to fix all of or most of the problems we face. He will fix the economy(666), he will bring peace in the middle east and end the war over there. He will do many great things and some will even proclaim that he is God. But after his 3 1/2 yrs is over he will become possessed by the Antichrist and he is going to proclaim that he is God and that everyone must worship him or die. From that day we will have 12hundred days left until Jesus christ returns and brings his children out of this world and into the kingdom of heaven.

What in Gods name are you talking about??!!!!

Wow I thought everyone has heard of this prophecy. I will break it down for you. Jesus made a prophecy to his disciples when he was to return to take his children out of this world. God is going to pass or already has passed judgment on America for casting him aside, getting away from him and turning wicked. Just like great nations of Egypt and Greece and Rome have all fallen. America will fall during the last days before heaven comes down on earth. Gods children (the ones who are saved) will rise up to heaven for the great feast. All those who are not saved will be judged but will be forgiven after admit they are sinners and accept Christ as there savior. The devil will be chained up for a 1000yrs and there will be no thoughts of sin at all. God will then show us the real way to live life. The devil will then be released. He will go and collect his children for the final battle of Armageddon. The devil will lose and be gone for eternity.

The prophecy stats that a great city in America is going to be destroyed in one hour by a nuclear missile from the north leaving America's government & financial leaders weeping and mourning. That is what is going to make them vulnerable enough to allow a one world government. Which leads into my first post on this topic.

Those who believe now without seeing will be made rulers of land in heaven. Those who believe after seeing will be normal civilians. If you believe me or not is your choice. Just know that when a great city in America falls to a nuclear missile leaving the government and financial leaders weeping. That I was telling the truth so at least you have a heads up. God is not a liar, all his prophecies have all come to pass. As will this one. What ever you do do not accept the mark of the beast when they set up the one world currency system. That mark shows that you belong to the devil and you will be damned.

what a load of crap. why don't you keep your judgmental BS to yourself and try talking about the knicks

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Everyone should follow the way of God weather they are poor or rich a so called genious or a so called idiot. While being poor may cause some to live unorderly. The rich are very prone to being corrupt themselves. They may not think they need God in order to live orderly. But they definatly need God if they wish to save there souls. While they may live the rich life for the limited amount of yrs they have on earth. They will not live that life without God when heaven is on earth for eternity. If everyone truly lived the way God wanted us to like "Love they neighbor as thyself". "Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you". "Forgive your neighbor sins against you so that God may forgive you for your sins". "Be fruitfull and multiply" get married, make love(the gift that God created) and teach your children about God. Don't have any Gods before God, Don't worship idols(money is a form of idol) don't kill, don't steal, don't lie. Don't lust after your neighbors wife, don't sleep with your neighbors wife. Don't lust after anything that belongs to someone else. Honor your mother and father. Tithe by giving 10% of your earnings to the poor. Then the world would be trillions times better than it is today not just on a moral level but on a happiness level.

The problem is that mans heart is naturally evil. People want to sin by nature. Its impossible not to sin. Greed, lust, selfishness are in a mans heart. But many people can't handle the feeling of guilt because of there desire to sin. So they separate themselves from God, discredit the bible, choose the world over God rather then own up to there sins. You can never earn making it to heaven. No matter how many good deeds you do. Only through the gift that God has given us through the death of Jesus are we saved from our sins for those who accept him.

Sure if the belief in God was very strong and many people lived there life through religion there would be people at the top who through title but weak spirits will be tempted by greed and selfishness since it is in mans heart and look to exploit them doing the devils work for worldly riches and power. But that doesn't mean we should go away from God all together. Everyone rich, poor, smart, stupid, needs to have there own spiritual connection with God through prayer and reading his word every day while trying to live life as moral as you possibly could.

Well written. That goes for all of your posts in this thread.

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