Off Topic · How could Bam not know his aunt was living in the U.S. illegally? (page 1)

4949 @ 11/2/2008 3:18 AM
I mean that seems like a major hole in the wall. You'd think the powers that be inside of the Bam camp, would have this guys family covered from top to bottom, to avoid any controversy.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...

GKFv2 @ 11/2/2008 4:10 AM
And this story matters because...? Besides the fact that Obama is not in touch with is aunt or has ever referenced her in his campaign, this information is simply irrelevant and leaked by McCain officials to try and sway some voters days before the election. But it is a failure because I trust that many people could care less about Obama's aunt. I hope I am right.
Bonn1997 @ 11/2/2008 5:25 AM
No one's even confirmed that she is here illegally
4949 @ 11/2/2008 12:22 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

And this story matters because...? Besides the fact that Obama is not in touch with is aunt or has ever referenced her in his campaign, this information is simply irrelevant and leaked by McCain officials to try and sway some voters days before the election. But it is a failure because I trust that many people could care less about Obama's aunt. I hope I am right.

That's not the point! He is virtually going to be president, and the secret service should have all records of all' family members, there were abouts, what they do and what they eat, day in and day out. It's not the biggest story out there, but why is it even there?
4949 @ 11/2/2008 12:25 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

No one's even confirmed that she is here illegally

confirmed it? Obama himself already said 'he didn't even know she was here illegally'! The point is, how can that be? It shouldn't be?? You got to remember, there are still a lot of last minute voters who are still on the fence and if you think I trust what the polls are saying, then your mistaken. I keep trying to tell people 'don't take it for granted'. This thing is very close.
Bonn1997 @ 11/2/2008 3:50 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Bonn1997:

No one's even confirmed that she is here illegally

confirmed it? Obama himself already said 'he didn't even know she was here illegally'! The point is, how can that be? It shouldn't be?? You got to remember, there are still a lot of last minute voters who are still on the fence and if you think I trust what the polls are saying, then your mistaken. I keep trying to tell people 'don't take it for granted'. This thing is very close.

If he said that, I sure missed it. Please post the quotation with a link. Whether or not the election is close is an entirely separate issue.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-02-2008 3:51 PM]
4949 @ 11/2/2008 8:11 PM
Here we go again with the quote thing again. I thought I put it on, when I started the thread.

Quote:
Obama said Saturday he had no idea his late father's half sister, Zeituni Onyango, 56, was residing unlawfully in a Boston Housing Authority project, four years after she lost a bid for asylum from her native Kenya.
"Sen. Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed," said Obama communications chief Linda Douglass.

If that's not a quote then I don't know what a quote is. It's straight from his 'communications chief'. You want to undermine his communications chief?


Bonn1997 @ 11/2/2008 8:30 PM
Posted by 4949:

Here we go again with the quote thing again. I thought I put it on, when I started the thread.

Quote:
Obama said Saturday he had no idea his late father's half sister, Zeituni Onyango, 56, was residing unlawfully in a Boston Housing Authority project, four years after she lost a bid for asylum from her native Kenya.
"Sen. Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed," said Obama communications chief Linda Douglass.

If that's not a quote then I don't know what a quote is. It's straight from his 'communications chief'. You want to undermine his communications chief?

It's a quote that directly CONTRADICTS your claim that Obama admitted she was here illegally.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-02-2008 8:31 PM]
Pharzeone @ 11/2/2008 8:30 PM
According to both parties they haven't spoken in 9 years. Damn. I know he was raised by his mother and her parents but it appears he has little contact with his father's family.
4949 @ 11/2/2008 9:11 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by 4949:

Here we go again with the quote thing again. I thought I put it on, when I started the thread.

Quote:
Obama said Saturday he had no idea his late father's half sister, Zeituni Onyango, 56, was residing unlawfully in a Boston Housing Authority project, four years after she lost a bid for asylum from her native Kenya.
"Sen. Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed," said Obama communications chief Linda Douglass.

If that's not a quote then I don't know what a quote is. It's straight from his 'communications chief'. You want to undermine his communications chief?

It's a quote that directly CONTRADICTS your claim that Obama admitted she was here illegally.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-02-2008 8:31 PM]

No, my comment asks clearly 'how could Bam not know this'? It's a simple question. You'd think his people would know everything about his family , extended family, etc. It's not really about her being here illegally. It's the fact that he didn't know is all I'm saying. I only quoted what he' said. You can go read it yourself. I read it and asking why? Aren't you curious?
4949 @ 11/2/2008 9:13 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

According to both parties they haven't spoken in 9 years. Damn. I know he was raised by his mother and her parents but it appears he has little contact with his father's family.

Well, I think it's a little strange myself. If disconnected or not, I'd want to know. For security reasons also. What if someone kidnapped some of his family members? I mean there are some extreme people out there right now.
Pharzeone @ 11/2/2008 9:23 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Pharzeone:

According to both parties they haven't spoken in 9 years. Damn. I know he was raised by his mother and her parents but it appears he has little contact with his father's family.

Well, I think it's a little strange myself. If disconnected or not, I'd want to know. For security reasons also. What if someone kidnapped some of his family members? I mean there are some extreme people out there right now.

Are you kidding me. The Secret Service doesn't care about extended family. Look at Carter's, Regan's, Clinton's and Bush's extended family. So if you are cousin Rog, you're on your own.
Bonn1997 @ 11/2/2008 9:37 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by 4949:

Here we go again with the quote thing again. I thought I put it on, when I started the thread.

Quote:
Obama said Saturday he had no idea his late father's half sister, Zeituni Onyango, 56, was residing unlawfully in a Boston Housing Authority project, four years after she lost a bid for asylum from her native Kenya.
"Sen. Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed," said Obama communications chief Linda Douglass.

If that's not a quote then I don't know what a quote is. It's straight from his 'communications chief'. You want to undermine his communications chief?

It's a quote that directly CONTRADICTS your claim that Obama admitted she was here illegally.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-02-2008 8:31 PM]

No, my comment asks clearly 'how could Bam not know this'? It's a simple question. You'd think his people would know everything about his family , extended family, etc. It's not really about her being here illegally. It's the fact that he didn't know is all I'm saying. I only quoted what he' said. You can go read it yourself. I read it and asking why? Aren't you curious?

I guess I just misunderstand your comment about Obama confirming the story. "confirmed it? Obama himself already said 'he didn't even know she was here illegally'!" You seem to think your second statement "Obama himself..." somehow confirms anything.
Am I curious? I'm more curious about how much fun it would be to watch wet paint dry


[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-02-2008 9:39 PM]
Bonn1997 @ 11/2/2008 9:42 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by 4949:

Here we go again with the quote thing again. I thought I put it on, when I started the thread.

Quote:
Obama said Saturday he had no idea his late father's half sister, Zeituni Onyango, 56, was residing unlawfully in a Boston Housing Authority project, four years after she lost a bid for asylum from her native Kenya.
"Sen. Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed," said Obama communications chief Linda Douglass.

If that's not a quote then I don't know what a quote is. It's straight from his 'communications chief'. You want to undermine his communications chief?

It's a quote that directly CONTRADICTS your claim that Obama admitted she was here illegally.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-02-2008 8:31 PM]

No, my comment asks clearly 'how could Bam not know this'? It's a simple question. You'd think his people would know everything about his family , extended family, etc. It's not really about her being here illegally. It's the fact that he didn't know is all I'm saying. I only quoted what he' said. You can go read it yourself. I read it and asking why? Aren't you curious?

I guess I just misunderstand your comment about Obama confirming the story. "confirmed it? Obama himself already said 'he didn't even know she was here illegally'!" You seem to think your second statement "Obama himself..." somehow confirms anything.
Am I curious? I'm more curious about how much fun it would be to watch wet paint dry


[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-02-2008 9:39 PM]

Now if Barack himself or Michelle were not here legally, I'd be very curious. But we're talking about his HALF-aunt aunt!
4949 @ 11/2/2008 9:42 PM
Fair enough.
Bonn1997 @ 11/2/2008 9:50 PM
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