I don't see anyone else discussing partisanship. Yes, you are the one bringing it into this discussion. It seems to me like, if someone doesn't agree with you, it's *because they're partisan*
[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-17-2009 12:53 PM]
Bippity10, good points. You seem to bring a fair and balanced perspective to this thread.
Posted by Bonn1997:
I don't see anyone else discussing partisanship. Yes, you are the one bringing it into this discussion. It seems to me like, if someone doesn't agree with you, it's *because they're partisan*
[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-17-2009 12:53 PM]
You're kidding, right?
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by bitty41:
Bippity,
You do realize that the organizers of the protests coined it "tea-bagging"? That's what is so funny about all of this your mad that the news reporters were making fun of them when in reality they were the ones that started with the tea-bagging.
So the news took an immature sexual reference and ran with it. Great, I'm happier now. But is that the major part of my issue, or was it the lack of objectivity conducted by both sides.
I know this is a difficult conversation to have with you because unless I'm bashing a republican or fox than my point is invalid. But I thought the coverage was horrible. Not sure how that turned into a republican vs. Democratic debate. Next, I'll say I don't like hot dogs at the Knicks games, and someone will call me a Skinhead.
[Edited by - bippity10 on 04-17-2009 12:41 PM]
But you're the only one bringing partisanship into this! I think a group has every right to be called by whatever name its organizers desire. If the organizers didn't understand the name and wanted to go by a different name, they have every right to inform the media, in which case the media should accept the name change.
Ding! ding! we have a winner. I think it's too generous to even call most of these people Republican party representatives. Republicans have their own beef with the Obama Administration and that's their right. But these people didn't know what the hell they were suppose to be angry about one protest I saw was about Gay Marriage (now what Gay Marriage has to do with taxes I do not know), another one was protesting our Abortionist President, and my personal favorite was the protest with the sign of an Obama like character sticking his tongue out to lick the Saudis jewel so again I'm having difficulty understanding why Bip is so angry about the news coverage.
Besides there are plenty of news stories that the media has dropped the ball on "Dafur, the Drug Wars, mass suicides in India, oh but who cares about those stories when the "Tea-Bagging Party" isn't getting fair coverage.
I don't even think I disagreed with anyone on this thread. I just tried to talk about media coverage and somehow got thrust into a conversation about Bush, and Klansmen and white people being pissed at black presidents, "angry conservatives" and Obama haters. I now remember why I joke around on this site so much.
Exactly, Bippity. This site should have a reputation feature.
Posted by Bippity10:
I don't even think I disagreed with anyone on this thread. I just tried to talk about media coverage and somehow got thrust into a conversation about Bush, and Klansmen and white people being pissed at black presidents, "angry conservatives" and Obama haters. I now remember why I joke around on this site so much.
If your so angry why voice your opinion here write to Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, and whoever else you think sucked in their coverage because what everyone is trying to tell you is that WE DON'T CARE about the "Tea-Bagging Coverage" it was an extremely polarized group and even the best news reporting couldn't change that; if I report from a Black Panthers meeting it would be damn near impossible to report on this type of gathering without a slant positive or negative.
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by bitty41:
Bippity,
You do realize that the organizers of the protests coined it "tea-bagging"? That's what is so funny about all of this your mad that the news reporters were making fun of them when in reality they were the ones that started with the tea-bagging.
So the news took an immature sexual reference and ran with it. Great, I'm happier now. But is that the major part of my issue, or was it the lack of objectivity conducted by both sides.
I know this is a difficult conversation to have with you because unless I'm bashing a republican or fox than my point is invalid. But I thought the coverage was horrible. Not sure how that turned into a republican vs. Democratic debate. Next, I'll say I don't like hot dogs at the Knicks games, and someone will call me a Skinhead.
[Edited by - bippity10 on 04-17-2009 12:41 PM]
But you're the only one bringing partisanship into this! I think a group has every right to be called by whatever name its organizers desire. If the organizers didn't understand the name and wanted to go by a different name, they have every right to inform the media, in which case the media should accept the name change.
Ding! ding! we have a winner. I think it's too generous to even call most of these people Republican party representatives. Republicans have their own beef with the Obama Administration and that's their right. But these people didn't know what the hell they were suppose to be angry about one protest I saw was about Gay Marriage (now what Gay Marriage has to do with taxes I do not know), another one was protesting our Abortionist President, and my personal favorite was the protest with the sign of an Obama like character sticking his tongue out to lick the Saudis jewel so again I'm having difficulty understanding why Bip is so angry about the news coverage.
Besides there are plenty of news stories that the media has dropped the ball on "Dafur, the Drug Wars, mass suicides in India, oh but who cares about those stories when the "Tea-Bagging Party" isn't getting fair coverage.
Bitty, we can have conversations about all those topics. Everything is worth talking about. It just so happens that this particular thread was about the media coverage yesterday. If you wish to discuss the other topics such as the media dropping the ball on Darfur, the Drug Wars etc you can start your own thread and I'm sure you will find that you and I are in agreement. Unfortunately I do not have superpowers and cannot disccuss every single topic in every single thread.
Again, if you reread my orignal post, the argument is about the media as a whole. This "teabagging" coverage just illustrates the exact point you are trying to make about Darfur and the Drug Wars etc. Our media sucks!!!! That's my whole point. You can't get information about anything. I just thought that this particular protest brought out in the clear open what I have felt for years. I was using yesterday's coverage as an example and somehow got thrust into a political debate.
What is so polarizing about protesting high taxes? Doesn't everyone want more of the money they EARN so they could spend it as they like?
I really don't understand the argument here.
Bippity,
Anyone whose been semi-literate in the past 15 years knows the US coporate media is a joke are you surprised by this because you do realize this is not a recent development?
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by Bippity10:
I don't even think I disagreed with anyone on this thread. I just tried to talk about media coverage and somehow got thrust into a conversation about Bush, and Klansmen and white people being pissed at black presidents, "angry conservatives" and Obama haters. I now remember why I joke around on this site so much.
If your so angry why voice your opinion here write to Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, and whoever else you think sucked in their coverage because what everyone is trying to tell you is that WE DON'T CARE about the "Tea-Bagging Coverage" it was an extremely polarized group and even the best news reporting couldn't change that; if I report from a Black Panthers meeting it would be damn near impossible to report on this type of gathering without a slant positive or negative.
As a matter of fact Bitty, I did write to Fox and MSNBC. I will write to CNN as well. I was very disappointed in all of their coverage. Not angry, disappointed. It was a political protest so of course there was some polarization. That's a given. But when I see one channel reporting on the "angels of protest" and another channel reporting on the "devils of protest", I'm willing to bet that the truth lay somewhere in between. The real story is not being told. I fell this way on a regular basis but just thought last nights coverage made it more obvious. Liberals run around saying Fox is biased and Cnn is great. Conservatives run around saying CNN and MSNBC are biased and fox is great. What the coverage yesterday showed me is that we need another news channel as well as 1 or 2 more political parties. That's my opinion, if you disagree fine. Now, allow me to escape this thread and hang out with my conservative brethren.
Posted by bitty41:
Bippity,
Anyone whose been semi-literate in the past 15 years knows the US coporate media is a joke are you surprised by this because you do realize this is not a recent development?
Ahhhhhh, I was waiting for the typical Bitty condesencion and discussion of intelligence levels.
There was no surprise uttered in any of my threads. Just commenting on how poor the coverage was. At least make an attempt at objectivity. That's all I want.
Posted by orangeblobman:
What is so polarizing about protesting high taxes? Doesn't everyone want more of the money they EARN so they could spend it as they like?
I really don't understand the argument here.
Personally I did not have a problem with someone speaking their mind and protesting taxes or government spending, if that's what they were there for. That's there right. I do however agree with many that there were some crazie that used those protests as an excuse to protest against a black president or liberals or democrats in general. Once again the crazies stole the show. The coverage of course was so bad it was difficult to tell if the radical crazies were the majority or the minority. Anyway you slice it, majority or minority, they took the legitimacy out of a fair position.
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by bitty41:
Bippity,
You do realize that the organizers of the protests coined it "tea-bagging"? That's what is so funny about all of this your mad that the news reporters were making fun of them when in reality they were the ones that started with the tea-bagging.
So the news took an immature sexual reference and ran with it. Great, I'm happier now. But is that the major part of my issue, or was it the lack of objectivity conducted by both sides.
I know this is a difficult conversation to have with you because unless I'm bashing a republican or fox than my point is invalid. But I thought the coverage was horrible. Not sure how that turned into a republican vs. Democratic debate. Next, I'll say I don't like hot dogs at the Knicks games, and someone will call me a Skinhead.
[Edited by - bippity10 on 04-17-2009 12:41 PM]
But you're the only one bringing partisanship into this! I think a group has every right to be called by whatever name its organizers desire. If the organizers didn't understand the name and wanted to go by a different name, they have every right to inform the media, in which case the media should accept the name change.
Ding! ding! we have a winner. I think it's too generous to even call most of these people Republican party representatives. Republicans have their own beef with the Obama Administration and that's their right. But these people didn't know what the hell they were suppose to be angry about one protest I saw was about Gay Marriage (now what Gay Marriage has to do with taxes I do not know), another one was protesting our Abortionist President, and my personal favorite was the protest with the sign of an Obama like character sticking his tongue out to lick the Saudis jewel so again I'm having difficulty understanding why Bip is so angry about the news coverage.
Besides there are plenty of news stories that the media has dropped the ball on "Dafur, the Drug Wars, mass suicides in India, oh but who cares about those stories when the "Tea-Bagging Party" isn't getting fair coverage.
Bitty, we can have conversations about all those topics. Everything is worth talking about. It just so happens that this particular thread was about the media coverage yesterday. If you wish to discuss the other topics such as the media dropping the ball on Darfur, the Drug Wars etc you can start your own thread and I'm sure you will find that you and I are in agreement. Unfortunately I do not have superpowers and cannot disccuss every single topic in every single thread.
Again, if you reread my orignal post, the argument is about the media as a whole. This "teabagging" coverage just illustrates the exact point you are trying to make about Darfur and the Drug Wars etc. Our media sucks!!!! That's my whole point. You can't get information about anything. I just thought that this particular protest brought out in the clear open what I have felt for years. I was using yesterday's coverage as an example and somehow got thrust into a political debate.
sucks what? balls?? that's exactly what teabagging is. that's why this whole issue has fully captured the nature of our national discourse:
"you suck balls!"
"no YOU suck balls!"
"no YOU suck balls!"
"no YOU suck balls!"
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by bitty41:
Bippity,
You do realize that the organizers of the protests coined it "tea-bagging"? That's what is so funny about all of this your mad that the news reporters were making fun of them when in reality they were the ones that started with the tea-bagging.
So the news took an immature sexual reference and ran with it. Great, I'm happier now. But is that the major part of my issue, or was it the lack of objectivity conducted by both sides.
I know this is a difficult conversation to have with you because unless I'm bashing a republican or fox than my point is invalid. But I thought the coverage was horrible. Not sure how that turned into a republican vs. Democratic debate. Next, I'll say I don't like hot dogs at the Knicks games, and someone will call me a Skinhead.
[Edited by - bippity10 on 04-17-2009 12:41 PM]
But you're the only one bringing partisanship into this! I think a group has every right to be called by whatever name its organizers desire. If the organizers didn't understand the name and wanted to go by a different name, they have every right to inform the media, in which case the media should accept the name change.
Ding! ding! we have a winner. I think it's too generous to even call most of these people Republican party representatives. Republicans have their own beef with the Obama Administration and that's their right. But these people didn't know what the hell they were suppose to be angry about one protest I saw was about Gay Marriage (now what Gay Marriage has to do with taxes I do not know), another one was protesting our Abortionist President, and my personal favorite was the protest with the sign of an Obama like character sticking his tongue out to lick the Saudis jewel so again I'm having difficulty understanding why Bip is so angry about the news coverage.
Besides there are plenty of news stories that the media has dropped the ball on "Dafur, the Drug Wars, mass suicides in India, oh but who cares about those stories when the "Tea-Bagging Party" isn't getting fair coverage.
Bitty, we can have conversations about all those topics. Everything is worth talking about. It just so happens that this particular thread was about the media coverage yesterday. If you wish to discuss the other topics such as the media dropping the ball on Darfur, the Drug Wars etc you can start your own thread and I'm sure you will find that you and I are in agreement. Unfortunately I do not have superpowers and cannot disccuss every single topic in every single thread.
Again, if you reread my orignal post, the argument is about the media as a whole. This "teabagging" coverage just illustrates the exact point you are trying to make about Darfur and the Drug Wars etc. Our media sucks!!!! That's my whole point. You can't get information about anything. I just thought that this particular protest brought out in the clear open what I have felt for years. I was using yesterday's coverage as an example and somehow got thrust into a political debate.
sucks what? balls?? that's exactly what teabagging is. that's why this whole issue has fully captured the nature of our national discourse:
"you suck balls!"
"no YOU suck balls!"
"no YOU suck balls!"
"no YOU suck balls!"
You are a very wise old man.
Posted by orangeblobman:
What is so polarizing about protesting high taxes? Doesn't everyone want more of the money they EARN so they could spend it as they like?
I really don't understand the argument here.
The irony is that these people don't even realize that
A) the current tax levels that their protesting (i.e., the taxes they're paying now) were determined by the Bush administration; i.e., they're currently protesting Republican taxes.
B) Once the Obama administration's tax levels take effect, the vast majority of them will have lower taxes.
[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-17-2009 2:09 PM]
This thread is send closk
Posted by Bippity10:
This thread is send closk
LOL!!!!
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Bippity10:
This thread is send closk
LOL!!!!
Dude if we keep using it, it will sweep the nation. Just a matter of time before we make it into the Russian Urban Dictionary. I started using it at home. Best part about it is I can say something is send closk and nobody has any idea if I am being insulting or dishing out a compliment,and neither do I.
The key is not to overuse it. It's such a powerful phrase that you want to use it all the time, but sometimes you have to keep a send closk to yourself so that you don't saturate the market and diminish it's meaning.
Yea, I'm not sure what send closk means!
Posted by orangeblobman:
Yea, I'm not sure what send closk means!
Are you a conservative? If you are, then you are send closk.
Hope that clears things up.