When I was a kid I hate zoos because it smelled like feces.
Now, I love them. I feel like you can learn a lot. And anyone that thinks zoos are bad better not be eating hamburgers or cheap eggs that come from a caged chickens.
They take good care of the animals so that's all that counts. If those animals were in the wild they'd probably be dead by now. Sad truth.
Posted by SupremeCommander:
When I was a kid I hate zoos because it smelled like feces.
Now, I love them. I feel like you can learn a lot. And anyone that thinks zoos are bad better not be eating hamburgers or cheap eggs that come from a caged chickens.
But eating is something we do for survival. Zoos involve caging animals for entertainment. (I'm playing devil's advocate; I have mixed feelings about zoos personally.)
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by SupremeCommander:
When I was a kid I hate zoos because it smelled like feces.
Now, I love them. I feel like you can learn a lot. And anyone that thinks zoos are bad better not be eating hamburgers or cheap eggs that come from a caged chickens.
But eating is something we do for survival. Zoos involve caging animals for entertainment. (I'm playing devil's advocate; I have mixed feelings about zoos personally.)
Most meat comes from domesticated animal that is grown by people and then slaughtered by people. Things like eggs come from chickens caged in the smallest of spaces. If you go out into the wilderness and eat to survive then I'd consider eating meat a survival mechanism, but so is eating fruits, veggies, nuts, etc. But if you go to the supermarket to eat packaged meat its consumerism. I mean, most milk is crated by jacking cows up with so many hormones they have to be milked or they're in physical pain. A lot of that stuff is more cruel than observing animals at a zoo. But that stuff is more a part of everyone's life than a zoo...
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by SupremeCommander:
When I was a kid I hate zoos because it smelled like feces.
Now, I love them. I feel like you can learn a lot. And anyone that thinks zoos are bad better not be eating hamburgers or cheap eggs that come from a caged chickens.
But eating is something we do for survival. Zoos involve caging animals for entertainment. (I'm playing devil's advocate; I have mixed feelings about zoos personally.)
Not necessarily. If they are protecting injured animals that were going to die in the wild, it's one thing. If they are just capturing animals from the wild though, then I can't really support that.
Eating meat, eggs and all of that is a whole new ball of wax. That IS done for survival. Which btw, it should be done in a certain way. The way we treat animals in general, in my eyes, is pretty disgraceful. And NO, I am in no way, shape or form an animal rights activist. I think there is a line that you can't cross though, and we cross it a lot.
Back to zoos though. Most of those animals would die in an instant. Some of them are rehabillitated after an injury and re released in the wild. For the most part though, they would have no chance. Especially the ones that were bred in captivity.
Zoos have their ups and downs though. It's very hard to educate people on animals when you are looking at them in a cage. I suppose it's not any better or worse than how we keep our own pets locked up. And people who have tiny enclosures for their pets, or hardly walk their dogs, ect.. have no right whatsoever to criticize zoos.
According to the innate biological accords which govern our daily, individual enterprise, it is normal to observe, take delight in, and study those creatures below our evolutionary thresholds. Zoos provide a righteous approach to these intrinsic interests and wonderings-- the animals are well kept, their wild survival promoted, and the public is exposed to a world long forgotten, at the very least
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by SupremeCommander:
When I was a kid I hate zoos because it smelled like feces.
Now, I love them. I feel like you can learn a lot. And anyone that thinks zoos are bad better not be eating hamburgers or cheap eggs that come from a caged chickens.
But eating is something we do for survival. Zoos involve caging animals for entertainment. (I'm playing devil's advocate; I have mixed feelings about zoos personally.)
Most meat comes from domesticated animal that is grown by people and then slaughtered by people. Things like eggs come from chickens caged in the smallest of spaces. If you go out into the wilderness and eat to survive then I'd consider eating meat a survival mechanism, but so is eating fruits, veggies, nuts, etc. But if you go to the supermarket to eat packaged meat its consumerism. I mean, most milk is crated by jacking cows up with so many hormones they have to be milked or they're in physical pain. A lot of that stuff is more cruel than observing animals at a zoo. But that stuff is more a part of everyone's life than a zoo...
supreme, hiding something from us buddy? lol! sorry man couldnt resist.
Is this about zoo's or the meat processing industry?
Bonnie, if you gonna go on some vegan rant then just do it!
We love the vegan rant!!!!
Food processing is disgusting stuff to behold.
You know, I just want to start a community where we have cows, chickens, fruits, and vegetable growing and everyone shares it and stays healthy. This would be ideal.
Posted by orangeblobman:
You know, I just want to start a community where we have cows, chickens, fruits, and vegetable growing and everyone shares it and stays healthy. This would be ideal.
I thought you were already there!
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by orangeblobman:
You know, I just want to start a community where we have cows, chickens, fruits, and vegetable growing and everyone shares it and stays healthy. This would be ideal.
I thought you were already there!
i believe thats called communism no? or look up history on David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas
Posted by jimimou:
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by orangeblobman:
You know, I just want to start a community where we have cows, chickens, fruits, and vegetable growing and everyone shares it and stays healthy. This would be ideal.
I thought you were already there!
No, it's not communism. Communism is garbage for libtards. What I am talking about is a community of like-minded individuals growing vegetables and raising cows together.
[Edited by - orangeblobman on 07-10-2009 3:58 PM]
[Edited by - orangeblobman on 07-10-2009 3:59 PM]
Posted by orangeblobman:
Posted by jimimou:
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by orangeblobman:
You know, I just want to start a community where we have cows, chickens, fruits, and vegetable growing and everyone shares it and stays healthy. This would be ideal.
I thought you were already there!
No, it's not communism. Communism is garbage for libtards. What I am talking about is a community of like-minded individuals growing vegetables and raising cows together.
[Edited by - orangeblobman on 07-10-2009 3:58 PM]
[Edited by - orangeblobman on 07-10-2009 3:59 PM]
have you ever been to vermont?
Posted by jimimou:
Posted by orangeblobman:
Posted by jimimou:
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by orangeblobman:
You know, I just want to start a community where we have cows, chickens, fruits, and vegetable growing and everyone shares it and stays healthy. This would be ideal.
I thought you were already there!
No, it's not communism. Communism is garbage for libtards. What I am talking about is a community of like-minded individuals growing vegetables and raising cows together.
[Edited by - orangeblobman on 07-10-2009 3:58 PM]
[Edited by - orangeblobman on 07-10-2009 3:59 PM]
have you ever been to vermont?
No, is that what they do there??
the animals are well kept
How do you know?
Posted by Allanfan20:
the animals are well kept
How do you know?
As a photographer zoos are often my destination of choice. Trust me I've been to some zoos where the animals are just begging you to shoot them.
I'm like Bonn, I have mixed feelings. I love being able to see animals you wouldn't necessarily ever see. I love that some animals are saved from death, but I really do feel sorry for many of them
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Allanfan20:
the animals are well kept
How do you know?
As a photographer zoos are often my destination of choice. Trust me I've been to some zoos where the animals are just begging you to shoot them.
I'm like Bonn, I have mixed feelings. I love being able to see animals you wouldn't necessarily ever see. I love that some animals are saved from death, but I really do feel sorry for many of them
I'm with you on this. I'm pretty up and down on zoos and aquariums too. Same with people who own animals as pets, as I mentioned earlier.
However, I would LOVE to see some of these animals, in person, in their natural habitats someday.
Posted by jimimou:
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by SupremeCommander:
When I was a kid I hate zoos because it smelled like feces.
Now, I love them. I feel like you can learn a lot. And anyone that thinks zoos are bad better not be eating hamburgers or cheap eggs that come from a caged chickens.
But eating is something we do for survival. Zoos involve caging animals for entertainment. (I'm playing devil's advocate; I have mixed feelings about zoos personally.)
Most meat comes from domesticated animal that is grown by people and then slaughtered by people. Things like eggs come from chickens caged in the smallest of spaces. If you go out into the wilderness and eat to survive then I'd consider eating meat a survival mechanism, but so is eating fruits, veggies, nuts, etc. But if you go to the supermarket to eat packaged meat its consumerism. I mean, most milk is crated by jacking cows up with so many hormones they have to be milked or they're in physical pain. A lot of that stuff is more cruel than observing animals at a zoo. But that stuff is more a part of everyone's life than a zoo...
supreme, hiding something from us buddy? lol! sorry man couldnt resist.
Man, you have to take the layup
It's like this, brethren-- Zoos are great! Meat is good! Humans control the world because we are intellectually superior and, as superior beings, we have the right to do what we want.
I like looking at cool animals in a Zoo; it is not likely that I will ever see them in their natural habitat.
