Off Topic · Bad Karma Strikes The Knicks From A Distance With Limbaugh and Dave Checketts In Bed To Buy The Rams (page 1)

misterearl @ 10/12/2009 1:23 PM
Cablevision, Fox News and other Knicks related karma

The Knicks must have really pissed off the basketball gods with Checketts.

What happened to the Mets and their rash of unprecedented injuries. Just look at the huge Fox News sign on the scoreboard. Coincidence? Or just bad manners and really BAD karma?

Limbaugh, once said that "the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons."

Mathias Kiwanuka cringes at the idea of Limbaugh becoming an NFL owner. "They are flat-out racist," Kiwanuka said of many of Limbaugh's statements. "He jumps on Obama and he jumps on other people for being racist. But a lot of the comments that he said, I feel like they have no place in journalism. It is just an opinion show that should be only be taken for shock value. I liken it to 'South Park' when I am listening to him."

"I love Spags and would play for him in a heartbeat, but under that situation ... obviously trades you have no control over, but if it was a free-agent thing, I wouldn't care if I only had one offer on the table, I would rather stay a free agent.

What has the corporate atmosphere at MSG done to a once proud franchise?

Et tu Charles Dolan?
orangeblobman @ 10/12/2009 1:55 PM
What the heck are you talking about
JesseDark @ 10/12/2009 2:01 PM
I don't know how Checkettes could think its a good idea to partner with this guy. Checkettes did a good job as GM with the Knicks but he must of lost a marble are two since then.
jimimou @ 10/12/2009 2:12 PM
dont look now but sharpton wrote a letter to goodell telling him he should ban limbaugh from trying to buy an nfl franchise because he is 'anti-nfl' - stems from his brief stint on espn back in 2003 when he said that mcnabb was overrated b/c the media wanted to see a black quarterback succeed....he resigned days later.

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JrZyHuStLa @ 10/12/2009 2:20 PM
Misterearl, you are a very strange person.
arkrud @ 10/12/2009 2:27 PM
If the Send Closks can fly they will have all monumets stink in no time.
Nalod @ 10/12/2009 3:58 PM

Checketts is actually pretty well thought of and I thought part of the ownership group of the ST Louis Blues. While he was president of MSG the rangers won a cup and the knicks went to the finals. Dolan was stupid and wanted to put his stamp on things.

Limbaugh is a piece of garbage.

Im sure if we examined how much of the NFL owners captured their wealth we might not be so proud of them either. But Limbaugh is one piece of shit.
orangeblobman @ 10/12/2009 4:00 PM
What's with all the hhate on Rush Limbaugh?? Just because someone doesn't agree with YOUR asinine views that makes them EVIL?? OOOOOH BIG BAD EVIL MAN OOOOOOH.
fishmike @ 10/12/2009 4:19 PM
Posted by orangeblobman:

What's with all the hhate on Rush Limbaugh?? Just because someone doesn't agree with YOUR asinine views that makes them EVIL?? OOOOOH BIG BAD EVIL MAN OOOOOOH.
my view is he is a racist, and elitist and feeds peoples prejudices and fears to further his agendas. What do you think of him?
LBeast @ 10/12/2009 4:27 PM
Personally, I think Limbaugh's a piece of shit, but, that has nothing to do with his right to buy a team. And it has nothing to do with the Knicks.

If I were a player, I wouldn't want to play there, but, I also get the feeling more than one owner shares similar views to Limbaugh.
kam77 @ 10/12/2009 4:31 PM
What does this have to do with the Knicks?
nyk4ever @ 10/12/2009 4:52 PM
Posted by kam77:

What does this have to do with the Knicks?

I'm trying to figure that out myself.
PresIke @ 10/12/2009 6:25 PM
i don't know how else to put it...

this is clearly all done in jest...and vintage mister.earl

this isn't an official knick story, but either folks are intentionally playing dumb or not quite seing earl's mystical connecting of checketts working with limbaugh to the knicks sad fate...

and as for limbaugh owning an nfl team, his rather obvious love-hate (racist) views of black nfl players makes it rather twisted -- although also sadly true of some (often) white sports fans who harbor racist views of athletes of color, yet at the same time worship them and the teams...it falls into the same kind of history of racist views that contribute to stereotypes and white male's sometimes sense of inferiority towards black men, especially young ones.

if you were donovan mcnabb how would you feel if limbaugh was an owner of a franchise in the league you play in -- who could actually potentially own his rights without his consent (unless he has a no trade clause). in other workplaces, you could just quit and work for someone else, but not pro-sports, where the leagues ensure that you must remain with a team who owns your rights. that's a trade off players are willing to make when you get a lot of money, but that does not mean you do not have a right to not work for an obviously racist person.

it ain't too hard to see the sad irony in connecting america's racist history with nfl/pro-sports regulations and limbaugh as owner as well.

or as earl also commented his previous comments about gangs...how would many black nfl players feel about that being an owner in the league?

i'm sorry, but in this case, limbaugh's attitudes and comments ARE relevant to his owning a team in the nfl.

if you were white and wanted to buy a business composed of mostly workers of color, would it be appropriate for you to harbor racist feelings towards the same population who will work for you?



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orangeblobman @ 10/12/2009 7:39 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by orangeblobman:

What's with all the hhate on Rush Limbaugh?? Just because someone doesn't agree with YOUR asinine views that makes them EVIL?? OOOOOH BIG BAD EVIL MAN OOOOOOH.
my view is he is a racist, and elitist and feeds peoples prejudices and fears to further his agendas. What do you think of him?

I think that he's a drug abuser that doesn't exercise enough so his brain is not in optimal functioning. So just based on that he has no chance at owning an NFL team. All this hoopla just gives him more credibility than he deserves.
misterearl @ 10/12/2009 9:33 PM
PresIke - thank you.

Sports have historically been a relative santuary from the madness of the work week. What some Knicks fans may be missing in the Rush Limbaugh attempt to become a part owner of the Rams is that his vicious brand of politics will force all athletes to take a stand, one way or the other.

NFL Commissioner Roger Godell has a cash cow to protect and an workforce that has been relatively quiet on serious issues affecting the human condition. Should Limbaugh force his way onto the NFL stage, look for many more athletes than ever before to take a vocal stand either for the idea of his involvement - or against it.

Either way, it will have the same polarizing affect as Limbaugh's rants on Clear Channel.

By forcing athletes to choose, it will force fans to see then in another light. A political light. Is that positive or negative? I don't know, but I am reminded of laying on Doctors Cave beach in Montego Bay's and a friend asking a local for a pen to jot down a number.

He responded, "We didn't come to the beach to write"

Think about it
orangeblobman @ 10/12/2009 9:42 PM
Posted by misterearl:

PresIke - thank you.

Sports have historically been a relative santuary from the madness of the work week. What some Knicks fans may be missing in the Rush Limbaugh attempt to become a part owner of the Rams is that his vicious brand of politics will force all athletes to take a stand, one way or the other.

NFL Commissioner Roger Godell has a cash cow to protect and an workforce that has been relatively quiet on serious issues affecting the human condition. Should Limbaugh force his way onto the NFL stage, look for many more athletes than ever before to take a vocal stand either for the idea of his involvement - or against it.

Either way, it will have the same polarizing affect as Limbaugh's rants on Clear Channel.

By forcing athletes to choose, it will force fans to see then in another light. A political light. Is that positive or negative? I don't know, but I am reminded of laying on Doctors Cave beach in Montego Bay's and a friend asking a local for a pen to jot down a number.

He responded, "We didn't come to the beach to write"

Think about it

Usually, I carry a pen even when I don't plan to right, because I'm a winner. but hey, that's up to you.
misterearl @ 10/12/2009 10:15 PM
Orangeblob - do you think professional athletes will be forced to choose sides?
Nalod @ 10/12/2009 10:51 PM
Be funny if He was a "minority" owner!

Like I said, I don't think all owners past and present have exactly been boy scouts.

If a team is gonna pay more, then that player is gonna go play their.

Thats just my take.
misterearl @ 10/12/2009 10:58 PM
Nalod - it might not be so simple in this case

Especially with players who are game changers

Think of a player like Dwight Howard, who is intelligent and politically active, making a career franchise decision


or even Lebron, who is mature beyond his years

Do fans really want to see those players forced into a corner?
misterearl @ 10/12/2009 11:25 PM
Choosing Sides

“I've spoken to the Commissioner [Roger Goodell] and I understand that this ownership consideration is in the early stages. But sport in America is at its best when it unifies, gives all of us reason to cheer, and when it transcends. Our sport does exactly that when it overcomes division and rejects discrimination and hatred.

- DeMaurice Smith, NFL Players executive director, in e-mail to union's executive committee

Think about Rush Limbaugh for a moment and you decide which side you are on
misterearl @ 10/13/2009 8:15 AM
A Gold Star For The Answer Man

JrZyHusTla - "Misterearl, you are a very strange person."

Jr - Thank you for that welcome compliment

people who refuse to think critically are boring

by the way JrZyHuStLa, where do you stand on the issue and what principles is your opinion based on?
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