Off Topic · Is it morally wrong to pose nude for a magazine? (page 2)

sebstar @ 10/26/2009 3:53 PM
orangeblobman wrote:it's not about a pair of floppy boobs but a greater loosening of discipline that will spell the end of life as you know it today. what will follow is a hedonistic backwater society where anything goes and no one gets anything done.

Dog, stop being so damn dumb. We're talking about looking at somebody naked. Whatchu talking 'bout? Who you lying to, b?

coolbeans @ 10/26/2009 3:54 PM
@blob nah mang it wont be nudity it'll be SURROGATES (movie reference) if society every gets THAT plugged into living through the internet-- then nothing will ever get done.
orangeblobman @ 10/26/2009 3:55 PM
@beans. surrogates? i've heard of that. is it worth a look?
coolbeans @ 10/26/2009 3:58 PM
orangeblobman wrote:@beans. surrogates? i've heard of that. is it worth a look?

torrent it man. dont rent it. it was a boring execution of an interesting plot.

orangeblobman @ 10/26/2009 3:59 PM
coolbeans wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:@beans. surrogates? i've heard of that. is it worth a look?

torrent it man. dont rent it. it was a boring execution of an interesting plot.

i'll do you one better and save myself the download time, watch-movies-links.net should have it. management was a good movie that i saw recently

coolbeans @ 10/26/2009 4:04 PM
@blog cool thanks for the link! managment will be a fun movie to see especially after the movie paranormal activity made me fear bumps in the night.
kam77 @ 10/26/2009 4:13 PM
For men its wrong. For women its ok.
TMS @ 10/26/2009 4:54 PM
orangeblobman wrote:it's not about a pair of floppy boobs

i prefer a set of nice, plump & jiggly boobs myself, but to each his own.

eViL @ 10/26/2009 5:09 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
coolbeans wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:@beans. surrogates? i've heard of that. is it worth a look?

torrent it man. dont rent it. it was a boring execution of an interesting plot.

i'll do you one better and save myself the download time, watch-movies-links.net should have it. management was a good movie that i saw recently

posing nude = wrong, stealing intellectual property = right?? haha!

sebstar @ 10/26/2009 5:49 PM
eViL wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
coolbeans wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:@beans. surrogates? i've heard of that. is it worth a look?

torrent it man. dont rent it. it was a boring execution of an interesting plot.

i'll do you one better and save myself the download time, watch-movies-links.net should have it. management was a good movie that i saw recently

posing nude = wrong, stealing intellectual property = right?? haha!

lol. u caught that.

orangeblobman @ 10/26/2009 5:53 PM
sebstar wrote:
eViL wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
coolbeans wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:@beans. surrogates? i've heard of that. is it worth a look?

torrent it man. dont rent it. it was a boring execution of an interesting plot.

i'll do you one better and save myself the download time, watch-movies-links.net should have it. management was a good movie that i saw recently

posing nude = wrong, stealing intellectual property = right?? haha!

lol. u caught that.

it is not morally wrong to view bootleg movies online IF you have NO intention of spending money on a movie, ever. and this is the case for me. if the bootlegs didn't exist, i simply wouldn't watch any movies. i don't know about the rest of the pirates...

coolbeans @ 10/26/2009 7:24 PM
@evil i dont see the equivalency of posing nude for a magazine and youtubing. seriously what would hurt you more wife youtubing a movie or wife pussy popping on a magazine.
eViL @ 10/26/2009 9:59 PM
coolbeans wrote:@evil i dont see the equivalency of posing nude for a magazine and youtubing. seriously what would hurt you more wife youtubing a movie or wife pussy popping on a magazine.

it's not about what would hurt me more. because if it was my movie that was being pirated and someone else's wife, then what? still neither of those premises really have any relevance to the comparison. rather, all they do is personalize the situation as if "what would hurt me more?" became some sort of standard for what is more "wrong."

in one case, my "wife" would have the freedom to choose what she wants to do and hopefully she's making some good money doing it. in the other case, you are stealing someone's intellectual property which whether you agree with it or not is against the law. i'm not going any further because i'm aware enough to know when there's no point elaborating.

just poking fun at the moral righteousness over certain things but not over others. definitely hope that catching some flack over here opens some dudes eyes to the fact that they comin with some clownish stuff. i ain't gonna come on here and tell people how to be, but if cats wanna portray themselves as some sort of upstanding american heros, then they best take it to the maximum. so even though orangeblob is a virgin, he better not curse, he better not watch R-rated movies, no sweets before dinner, no posing in enyspree's favorite mags, and no illegally dl'ing valuable copyrighted intellectual property (FEDERAL OFFENSE FOR GODSAKES!!!) none of that selective ish. strict purity for this young pillar of holiness.

Bonn1997 @ 10/26/2009 10:25 PM
eViL wrote:
coolbeans wrote:@evil i dont see the equivalency of posing nude for a magazine and youtubing. seriously what would hurt you more wife youtubing a movie or wife pussy popping on a magazine.

it's not about what would hurt me more. because if it was my movie that was being pirated and someone else's wife, then what? still neither of those premises really have any relevance to the comparison. rather, all they do is personalize the situation as if "what would hurt me more?" became some sort of standard for what is more "wrong."

in one case, my "wife" would have the freedom to choose what she wants to do and hopefully she's making some good money doing it. in the other case, you are stealing someone's intellectual property which whether you agree with it or not is against the law. i'm not going any further because i'm aware enough to know when there's no point elaborating.

just poking fun at the moral righteousness over certain things but not over others. definitely hope that catching some flack over here opens some dudes eyes to the fact that they comin with some clownish stuff. i ain't gonna come on here and tell people how to be, but if cats wanna portray themselves as some sort of upstanding american heros, then they best take it to the maximum. so even though orangeblob is a virgin, he better not curse, he better not watch R-rated movies, no sweets before dinner, no posing in enyspree's favorite mags, and no illegally dl'ing valuable copyrighted intellectual property (FEDERAL OFFENSE FOR GODSAKES!!!) none of that selective ish. strict purity for this young pillar of holiness.


+1; even here I'll give my own views and I definitely word them bluntly but I'm not going to tell other people what to think or tell them the world will come to an end if they don't start agreeing with me.
orangeblobman @ 10/26/2009 11:46 PM
i don't download any copyrighted intellectual property. there are just sites that happen to stream certain sections of movies, they are hosted on legitimate video hosting sites. no downloading or distributing or recording ever takes place. does this change it at all?

and let's say i never planned to see movie A, that means my money was never going to go into supporting movie A. but a site comes to my attention where, sometimes, low quality videos of movie A are streamed, but never downloaded (or distributed by me). did i really hurt the studio by misdirecting money that never existed, or i was never going to spend, in the first place?

Allanfan20 @ 10/27/2009 1:24 AM
im not going to say its wrong because why is it wrong? if you are comfortable enough to pose nude and dont care about peoples reactions then cool.

Keep in mind though thats its all about portrayal and opinion and theres no evidence that shows that either opinion is wrong. So if you pose nude, dont be dissapointed if people aren`t praising you bc those peole aren`t wrong either.

Allanfan20 @ 10/27/2009 1:24 AM
im not going to say its wrong because why is it wrong? if you are comfortable enough to pose nude and dont care about peoples reactions then cool.

Keep in mind though thats its all about portrayal and opinion and theres no evidence that shows that either opinion is wrong. So if you pose nude, dont be dissapointed if people aren`t praising you bc those peole aren`t wrong either.

Allanfan20 @ 10/27/2009 1:26 AM
im not going to say its wrong because why is it wrong? if you are comfortable enough to pose nude and dont care about peoples reactions then cool. Keep in mind though thats its all about portrayal and opinion and theres no evidence that shows that either opinion is wrong. So if you pose nude, dont be dissapointed if people aren`t praising you bc those peole aren`t wrong either.
Bonn1997 @ 10/27/2009 5:42 AM
orangeblobman wrote:i don't download any copyrighted intellectual property. there are just sites that happen to stream certain sections of movies, they are hosted on legitimate video hosting sites. no downloading or distributing or recording ever takes place. does this change it at all?

and let's say i never planned to see movie A, that means my money was never going to go into supporting movie A. but a site comes to my attention where, sometimes, low quality videos of movie A are streamed, but never downloaded (or distributed by me). did i really hurt the studio by misdirecting money that never existed, or i was never going to spend, in the first place?


That's basically the utilitarian argument on ethical behavior--"I got enjoyment out of it and it harmed no one--so it's a net gain for humanity." The argument can be used to justify violating all sorts of moral principles (e.g., setting up a spy cam in a locker room and getting enjoyment out of it while the other persons never found out. You get your enjoyment and they never know.)
coolbeans @ 10/27/2009 6:05 AM
@evil i wouldnt value a movie over my wife and daughter (whether its my intellectual property or not.) in today's world to appear nude on a magazine leads to women being (unfairly) labeled and treated negatively. plus severely limiting their career options of just doing porn. there's zero scorn or ill treatment by society youtubing.
Bonn1997 @ 10/27/2009 6:34 AM
coolbeans wrote:@evil i wouldnt value a movie over my wife and daughter (whether its my intellectual property or not.) in today's world to appear nude on a magazine leads to women being (unfairly) labeled and treated negatively. plus severely limiting their career options of just doing porn. there's zero scorn or ill treatment by society youtubing.

Maybe that merely says something more negative about our society if we're affected that severely over public displays of the human body.
Regardless, it's still hypocrisy even if one is "more wrong" than the other. No offense to, OB--we all have our own moral contradictions.
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