Off Topic · World Cup 2010! (page 3)

...or theres the alternative. Hilarious.

eViL wrote:i don't care who wins so long as england goes down in embarrassing fashion.

HAHA! I don't like the English soccer team either. They have a cake walk group compared to some of the others but they will figure out a way to screw up on the way to the cup. Feel bad for Gerrard though. Hope he does well.

firefly wrote:This is what it's all about. Extra credit to those who know who Sir Bobby was. The gentleman of football RIP.

WOW! Freaking brilliant.

Silverfuel wrote:

firefly wrote:This is what it's all about. Extra credit to those who know who Sir Bobby was. The gentleman of football RIP.

WOW! Freaking brilliant.

Little bit of trivia. The mural of Sir Bobby above the tunnel is a genuine Bansky.

People in the vid.

Stuart "Psycho" Pierce - (ex-England international and current Under 21 coach)
Sir Trevor Brooking - FA Exec. Knighted for services to sport
Sir Jack Charlton - World Cup winner 1966
Sir Steve Redgrave - Greatest Olympian of all time
Dame Kelly Holmes - Double Olympic gold medalist
Dame Ellen MacAurther - Sailed around the world solo faster then any person before her and any woman ever.
Nigel Benn - Boxer
Phil "The Power" Taylor - Darts champion
Carl Fogarty - World Superbikes champion
Sir Clive Woodward - Ex-England Rugby Union coach and Rugby World Cup winner
Sir Booby Robson - Ex-coach of England, Newcastle, Barcelona and many lucky others. England Iinternational. A true gentleman and one of the greatest men in football. Died last year of cancer but will always be remembered.
Sir Ranulph Fiennes - British adventurer
Jeff Stelling (barechested w/painted St George Cross) - TV football commentator (which BTW is the reason all the commentators should be english, Americans just wouldnt get this kind of passion IMO)
Kasabian - English rock band
Sir Ian Botham - Ex-English cricketer - Knighted for services to cricket
The ghost of Bobby Moore - England captain, 1966
A lion, just to finish things off.

In response to Sebby's post, some fantastic football ads.

Love this one.

firefly wrote:

That is a very funny commercial. I actually laughed out loud.

jimimou wrote:

eViL wrote:i don't care who wins so long as england goes down in embarrassing fashion.

firefly gonna make a voodoo doll out of you

I don't think England has ever won the World Cup even with some of the dominant teams in the 80s-90s. Neither has Spain. Of course the English fans still whine about the "Hand of God incident" that allowed Argentina to beat them in the semi finals when Diego Maradona faked a header.

loweyecue wrote:

jimimou wrote:

eViL wrote:i don't care who wins so long as england goes down in embarrassing fashion.

firefly gonna make a voodoo doll out of you

I don't think England has ever won the World Cup even with some of the dominant teams in the 80s-90s. Neither has Spain. Of course the English fans still whine about the "Hand of God incident" that allowed Argentina to beat them in the semi finals when Diego Maradona faked a header.

They won in 1966. What do they say there firefly, two world wars and one world cup?

Only when we play Germany! But since that glorious night in Munich, we don't feel the need to trash talk that much Sorry Dodger, couldn't resist

Lol... Firefly Ill forgive you!!! By the way what happened in my hometown?!?!
Just read about Ferdinands injury... man this year most teams really have to suffer from the injury bugg!!!

dodger and firefly, thanks for the responses before. i certainly acknowledge my own gaps in knowledge, and that the u.s. does not have a world class squad, nor do we have a history that has demonstrated understanding of the game. i am glad to see that changing, and even how the u.s. is growing players has improved. there was a really interesting article on espn soccernet about how mls teams have done better at creating legit youth academies, which can't compare just yet to those in europe, but are good enough to create better alternative to the old amateur system that did not

about bradley...for the most part...yes, my perception of bradley is the u.s.'s best defensive midfielder with some offensive skills. not sure if folks know, but he's actually the son of the bob bradley, the head coach of the u.s. national team. however, he deserves to be on the team. he had a good season in germany from what i heard (i didn't get to see because we don't really get the german bundesliga on tv in the u.s.), but in u.s. matches we have seen it.

nice breakdown of england, firefly.

didn't see you mention crouch in your forward commentary. i suspect he might even start against the u.s. since a big weakness that has come up in the last few friendlies is vulnerability in the air. i am very scared of rooney, in particular.

i'm curious what kind of formation england will go with. will they play barry as an anchor man with rooney as the lone striker?

if i were capello i'd start with a 4-4-2 against the u.s. pairing crouch for his ability in the air, with rooney. at some point i suspect they will use a 4-5-1 with barry in the tournament. if barry is not well fit, i see (the obvious) gerrard + lampard up the middle (even with a poor track record together), then lennon + who knows? on the other wing.

if england has a lead against the u.s. midway through the second half do you go to a 4-5-1 and bring barry on to protect the lead or is that questioning the confidence of the team early on where goal difference is so vital? barry as anchor man could be key in the knockout phase, because maybe he's more fit, then with his defensive prowess and penalty taking skills in a close match he could be vital. i like barry, btw (followed man city pretty closely this year...too bad they didn't make the champions league...that was a great match against tottenham late in the year, btw, when they lost the spot). funny how walcott and cole have created question marks for the other winger. a year or two ago cole would normally be the choice, with walcott challenging, but niehter had the best year. i have no clue who will play, (i've seen some say carrick) but i'll guess cole for his experience. btw, funny you said wright-phillips may be faster than lennon, because i was going to say i wonder if that's the case too when you commented about lennon in an earlier post.

Yeah it's a difficult decision for Capello but that's why he gets the big bucks. Crouch has the better goalscoring record, but Rooney has a better record when playing with Heskey. I'd love to see a 4-4-1-1 with Gerrard supporting Rooney. I believe we'd be most dangerous that way with Crouch coming on as an impact player for certain situations.

Walcott really let himself down this year. No improvement whatsoever and I'm sure Wenger must be really disappointed about him. He didn't deserve to make it, although if you watched some City games I'm sure you'll agree that Adam Johnson possibly did.

Where's your home city Dodger? Last I checked, Fulham pretty much beat Germany on their own. Wolfsburg, Stuttgart noone could stop them. Fulham!! And you got luck against United! Had to get Rafael sent off to give yourselves a chance

Munichs my place and Bayern my team!!!
But with Manu vs. Bayern... now seriously I think Manu played one great half against them... which was the first half in Manchester ... other than that I think Munich was at least on par with them and that card by Rafael... well I think it was okay... Ive seen worse cards and you players like Ribery and Robben due to their technic and speed of course initiate fouls and cards by their opponents.

Concerning Fulham... they played a great Euroleague season and they deserved to proceed against both German teams!!!! No doubt at all... I really like Davis and Zamorra... good players both!!!
Got to say though that Wolfsburg and Hamburg were both beat during really difficult times where they were simply not playing at their top level... ;-)
They deserved the loses though!!!
Whats your team in the Premier League?!? Manu?!?
By the way I really got to give it up to those great chants in english soccer stadiums its AMAZING!!!

i heard this morning that drogba broke his arm and is out for the WC. that's bad bad news for ivory

jimimou wrote:i heard this morning that drogba broke his arm and is out for the WC. that's bad bad news for ivory

That sucks! http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/s...

That does suck for the Drog, he's a really really impressive player. Ferdinand out of the cup too. Ligament damage. Just bad lick going around I guess

i feel horrible for drogba - he's had such a brilliant year for chelsea, it seemed like he was primed to take the ivory coast out of first round play. i feel even worse for him in the fact that he's 32 the next time the cup comes around he'll be 36 and probably have lost a step or two. this world cup was going to be his real time to shine.