Knicks · The Premature, But Still Official, Landry Fields Appreciation Thread (page 2)
TMS wrote:http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...as you can see there were plenty of posters on this forum who've liked this kid ever since he was drafted after they checked out some of his college footage long before you became the self appointed president of the Landry Fields Fan club.
hey my man, this is just an appreciation thread. Not sure I see anywhere in here where ANYONE is claiming to have known about this kid at all. Don't make it out as something that it isn't.
TMS wrote:http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...as you can see there were plenty of posters on this forum who've liked this kid ever since he was drafted after they checked out some of his college footage long before you became the self appointed president of the Landry Fields Fan club.
TMS - before you rush to judgement based on your reading comprehension deficiencies, get your facts straight. The Answer Man is the self appointed Campaign Manager for The Mayor since 2007.
martin wrote:TMS wrote:http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...as you can see there were plenty of posters on this forum who've liked this kid ever since he was drafted after they checked out some of his college footage long before you became the self appointed president of the Landry Fields Fan club.
hey my man, this is just an appreciation thread. Not sure I see anywhere in here where ANYONE is claiming to have known about this kid at all. Don't make it out as something that it isn't.
martin wrote:first no one said he should have been drafted.then everyone was surprised at his play in SL.
Then no one believed he would get rotation minutes.
Then no one believed he would stick or be good as a starter.
And Fields keeps proving us wrong.
i dunno where you got the idea that no one ever believed in this kid but like the draft day thread shows, there were actually a lot of people that were optimistic about Landry Fields after they actually got a look at his college clips... i never said anyone claimed to have known about this kid before the draft, not sure where you got that from.
As for his game, its really odd the assessments peopel have of him. A week ago we had 3 articles saying he wasn't an athlete. I'm pretty sure he's leading this team in dunks right now and definitely leads the team in pretty floating drives to the hoop. We keep hearing how he has no ball skills. Can't dribble, can't shoot. Yet he hits shots off the pick, open, drives by people fairly regularly. We keep hearing he can't play D and yet he has done a very solid job on some of the leagues best scorers. What is it about this guy that people keep expecting him to fall apart?
I actually see the opposite of some of the critics. I see a gleam in his eye. I have a feeling that at some point either this year or next he's going to realize that he's tough to guard and is going to stop deferring to some of the more passive guys on our team. I think this and his work ethic are going to help him continue to improve pretty fast. He seems the opposite of Gallo to me. I think Gallo could be a devastating offensive player right now. He's just too awkward to guard. He gets fouled everytime he drives to the hoop and his jump shot should be dangerous. I just think he lacks that killer confidence that I think Landry has. He's content to be a secondary guy. I think at some point Landry will not be. People keep trying to label him a role player, I can't understand why I'm seeing more
Bippity10 wrote:Love this guy. He just plays at a different speed then everyone on the court. When shots go up, you have a few guys standing on the perimter watching. YOu have a couple guys in the paint standing and waiting for the ball to hit the room, and then you have maybe one or two guys trying to box out. Then you have Landry. No matter where he is on the floor, you can see him streaking as fast as he can to the spot where he thinks the ball is going to go. This stuff is innate and doesn't go away.As for his game, its really odd the assessments peopel have of him. A week ago we had 3 articles saying he wasn't an athlete. I'm pretty sure he's leading this team in dunks right now and definitely leads the team in pretty floating drives to the hoop. We keep hearing how he has no ball skills. Can't dribble, can't shoot. Yet he hits shots off the pick, open, drives by people fairly regularly. We keep hearing he can't play D and yet he has done a very solid job on some of the leagues best scorers. What is it about this guy that people keep expecting him to fall apart?
I actually see the opposite of some of the critics. I see a gleam in his eye. I have a feeling that at some point either this year or next he's going to realize that he's tough to guard and is going to stop deferring to some of the more passive guys on our team. I think this and his work ethic are going to help him continue to improve pretty fast. He seems the opposite of Gallo to me. I think Gallo could be a devastating offensive player right now. He's just too awkward to guard. He gets fouled everytime he drives to the hoop and his jump shot should be dangerous. I just think he lacks that killer confidence that I think Landry has. He's content to be a secondary guy. I think at some point Landry will not be. People keep trying to label him a role player, I can't understand why I'm seeing more
he really looks like a younger version of Shane Battier... very heady player on the floor, can knock down the open J, not overly explosive yet athletic & smooth, very solid defensively & seems to have that knack for being in the right place at the right time... just a nice all around player... i hope he can stick around w/this franchise for years to come, God knows we could use more players like him.
Bippity10 wrote:He seems the opposite of Gallo to me. I think Gallo could be a devastating offensive player right now. He's just too awkward to guard. He gets fouled everytime he drives to the hoop and his jump shot should be dangerous. I just think he lacks that killer confidence that I think Landry has. He's content to be a secondary guy.
No to get off topic here too much but I disagree with you on thinking Gallo is content being a secondary player. To me Gallo exhibits the traits of someone who does not know how to play well when he is not "the guy". I have seen it and experienced it in different sports. A high level player on a team where he is the best player, plays lights out, but put him on a team where he is maybe the 2nd best player and he defers. I think we saw this last season towards the end when Gallo was the goto player in games. Now we are seeing him adjust to playing with Amare. I wonder if he ever had to be a complimentary player in Europe.
Now back to Fields and his awesomeness.
TMS wrote:Bippity10 wrote:Love this guy. He just plays at a different speed then everyone on the court. When shots go up, you have a few guys standing on the perimter watching. YOu have a couple guys in the paint standing and waiting for the ball to hit the room, and then you have maybe one or two guys trying to box out. Then you have Landry. No matter where he is on the floor, you can see him streaking as fast as he can to the spot where he thinks the ball is going to go. This stuff is innate and doesn't go away.As for his game, its really odd the assessments peopel have of him. A week ago we had 3 articles saying he wasn't an athlete. I'm pretty sure he's leading this team in dunks right now and definitely leads the team in pretty floating drives to the hoop. We keep hearing how he has no ball skills. Can't dribble, can't shoot. Yet he hits shots off the pick, open, drives by people fairly regularly. We keep hearing he can't play D and yet he has done a very solid job on some of the leagues best scorers. What is it about this guy that people keep expecting him to fall apart?
I actually see the opposite of some of the critics. I see a gleam in his eye. I have a feeling that at some point either this year or next he's going to realize that he's tough to guard and is going to stop deferring to some of the more passive guys on our team. I think this and his work ethic are going to help him continue to improve pretty fast. He seems the opposite of Gallo to me. I think Gallo could be a devastating offensive player right now. He's just too awkward to guard. He gets fouled everytime he drives to the hoop and his jump shot should be dangerous. I just think he lacks that killer confidence that I think Landry has. He's content to be a secondary guy. I think at some point Landry will not be. People keep trying to label him a role player, I can't understand why I'm seeing more
he really looks like a younger version of Shane Battier... very heady player on the floor, can knock down the open J, not overly explosive yet athletic & smooth, very solid defensively & seems to have that knack for being in the right place at the right time... just a nice all around player... i hope he can stick around w/this franchise for years to come, God knows we could use more players like him.
MUCH more offensively talented than shane battier.
Andrew wrote:Bippity10 wrote:He seems the opposite of Gallo to me. I think Gallo could be a devastating offensive player right now. He's just too awkward to guard. He gets fouled everytime he drives to the hoop and his jump shot should be dangerous. I just think he lacks that killer confidence that I think Landry has. He's content to be a secondary guy.No to get off topic here too much but I disagree with you on thinking Gallo is content being a secondary player. To me Gallo exhibits the traits of someone who does not know how to play well when he is not "the guy". I have seen it and experienced it in different sports. A high level player on a team where he is the best player, plays lights out, but put him on a team where he is maybe the 2nd best player and he defers. I think we saw this last season towards the end when Gallo was the goto player in games. Now we are seeing him adjust to playing with Amare. I wonder if he ever had to be a complimentary player in Europe.
Now back to Fields and his awesomeness.
imo we won't know how good gallo can be till mda is the hell out of here. gallo spent his first sl game here playing an aggressive all-around game. then mda, whether out of concern for his back injury or more likely visions of non-stop outside sniping, relegated him to his absurd 10 3-pointers a night status.
Marv wrote:TMS wrote:Bippity10 wrote:Love this guy. He just plays at a different speed then everyone on the court. When shots go up, you have a few guys standing on the perimter watching. YOu have a couple guys in the paint standing and waiting for the ball to hit the room, and then you have maybe one or two guys trying to box out. Then you have Landry. No matter where he is on the floor, you can see him streaking as fast as he can to the spot where he thinks the ball is going to go. This stuff is innate and doesn't go away.As for his game, its really odd the assessments peopel have of him. A week ago we had 3 articles saying he wasn't an athlete. I'm pretty sure he's leading this team in dunks right now and definitely leads the team in pretty floating drives to the hoop. We keep hearing how he has no ball skills. Can't dribble, can't shoot. Yet he hits shots off the pick, open, drives by people fairly regularly. We keep hearing he can't play D and yet he has done a very solid job on some of the leagues best scorers. What is it about this guy that people keep expecting him to fall apart?
I actually see the opposite of some of the critics. I see a gleam in his eye. I have a feeling that at some point either this year or next he's going to realize that he's tough to guard and is going to stop deferring to some of the more passive guys on our team. I think this and his work ethic are going to help him continue to improve pretty fast. He seems the opposite of Gallo to me. I think Gallo could be a devastating offensive player right now. He's just too awkward to guard. He gets fouled everytime he drives to the hoop and his jump shot should be dangerous. I just think he lacks that killer confidence that I think Landry has. He's content to be a secondary guy. I think at some point Landry will not be. People keep trying to label him a role player, I can't understand why I'm seeing more
he really looks like a younger version of Shane Battier... very heady player on the floor, can knock down the open J, not overly explosive yet athletic & smooth, very solid defensively & seems to have that knack for being in the right place at the right time... just a nice all around player... i hope he can stick around w/this franchise for years to come, God knows we could use more players like him.
MUCH more offensively talented than shane battier.
Battier averaged 14 / 5 / 3 / 2 his rookie season... i'll say Fields is a much better rebounder than Battier but not as good a defender, but that can come in time... i do see similarities there as rookies, both looked like seasoned vets the minute they took the floor.
Andrew wrote:Bippity10 wrote:He seems the opposite of Gallo to me. I think Gallo could be a devastating offensive player right now. He's just too awkward to guard. He gets fouled everytime he drives to the hoop and his jump shot should be dangerous. I just think he lacks that killer confidence that I think Landry has. He's content to be a secondary guy.No to get off topic here too much but I disagree with you on thinking Gallo is content being a secondary player. To me Gallo exhibits the traits of someone who does not know how to play well when he is not "the guy". I have seen it and experienced it in different sports. A high level player on a team where he is the best player, plays lights out, but put him on a team where he is maybe the 2nd best player and he defers. I think we saw this last season towards the end when Gallo was the goto player in games. Now we are seeing him adjust to playing with Amare. I wonder if he ever had to be a complimentary player in Europe.
Now back to Fields and his awesomeness.
The only reason I disagree is that the team has been begging him to play like he did in Europe. There is no need to defer. Do all the things he did in Europe. We don't have another superstar here and there is plenty of room for two stars on every team, so he shoudl not be deferring to anyone. Maybe to Amare in the final minutes of a game, but for the bulk of it, we are beggin him to be "the other guy". Sometimes he is(usually when someone is talking smack to him) and sometimes he's content to stand on the perimeter and give interviews were he says "I don't need to get a lot of shots, I am about team"
By the way, love Landry
TMS wrote:Marv wrote:TMS wrote:Bippity10 wrote:Love this guy. He just plays at a different speed then everyone on the court. When shots go up, you have a few guys standing on the perimter watching. YOu have a couple guys in the paint standing and waiting for the ball to hit the room, and then you have maybe one or two guys trying to box out. Then you have Landry. No matter where he is on the floor, you can see him streaking as fast as he can to the spot where he thinks the ball is going to go. This stuff is innate and doesn't go away.As for his game, its really odd the assessments peopel have of him. A week ago we had 3 articles saying he wasn't an athlete. I'm pretty sure he's leading this team in dunks right now and definitely leads the team in pretty floating drives to the hoop. We keep hearing how he has no ball skills. Can't dribble, can't shoot. Yet he hits shots off the pick, open, drives by people fairly regularly. We keep hearing he can't play D and yet he has done a very solid job on some of the leagues best scorers. What is it about this guy that people keep expecting him to fall apart?
I actually see the opposite of some of the critics. I see a gleam in his eye. I have a feeling that at some point either this year or next he's going to realize that he's tough to guard and is going to stop deferring to some of the more passive guys on our team. I think this and his work ethic are going to help him continue to improve pretty fast. He seems the opposite of Gallo to me. I think Gallo could be a devastating offensive player right now. He's just too awkward to guard. He gets fouled everytime he drives to the hoop and his jump shot should be dangerous. I just think he lacks that killer confidence that I think Landry has. He's content to be a secondary guy. I think at some point Landry will not be. People keep trying to label him a role player, I can't understand why I'm seeing more
he really looks like a younger version of Shane Battier... very heady player on the floor, can knock down the open J, not overly explosive yet athletic & smooth, very solid defensively & seems to have that knack for being in the right place at the right time... just a nice all around player... i hope he can stick around w/this franchise for years to come, God knows we could use more players like him.
MUCH more offensively talented than shane battier.
Battier averaged 14 / 5 / 3 / 2 his rookie season... i'll say Fields is a much better rebounder than Battier but not as good a defender, but that can come in time... i do see similarities there as rookies, both looked like seasoned vets the minute they took the floor.
I have dropped out of the player comparison business after the Michaelton Brandney incident of 2003
Bippity10 wrote:TMS wrote:Marv wrote:TMS wrote:Bippity10 wrote:Love this guy. He just plays at a different speed then everyone on the court. When shots go up, you have a few guys standing on the perimter watching. YOu have a couple guys in the paint standing and waiting for the ball to hit the room, and then you have maybe one or two guys trying to box out. Then you have Landry. No matter where he is on the floor, you can see him streaking as fast as he can to the spot where he thinks the ball is going to go. This stuff is innate and doesn't go away.As for his game, its really odd the assessments peopel have of him. A week ago we had 3 articles saying he wasn't an athlete. I'm pretty sure he's leading this team in dunks right now and definitely leads the team in pretty floating drives to the hoop. We keep hearing how he has no ball skills. Can't dribble, can't shoot. Yet he hits shots off the pick, open, drives by people fairly regularly. We keep hearing he can't play D and yet he has done a very solid job on some of the leagues best scorers. What is it about this guy that people keep expecting him to fall apart?
I actually see the opposite of some of the critics. I see a gleam in his eye. I have a feeling that at some point either this year or next he's going to realize that he's tough to guard and is going to stop deferring to some of the more passive guys on our team. I think this and his work ethic are going to help him continue to improve pretty fast. He seems the opposite of Gallo to me. I think Gallo could be a devastating offensive player right now. He's just too awkward to guard. He gets fouled everytime he drives to the hoop and his jump shot should be dangerous. I just think he lacks that killer confidence that I think Landry has. He's content to be a secondary guy. I think at some point Landry will not be. People keep trying to label him a role player, I can't understand why I'm seeing more
he really looks like a younger version of Shane Battier... very heady player on the floor, can knock down the open J, not overly explosive yet athletic & smooth, very solid defensively & seems to have that knack for being in the right place at the right time... just a nice all around player... i hope he can stick around w/this franchise for years to come, God knows we could use more players like him.
MUCH more offensively talented than shane battier.
Battier averaged 14 / 5 / 3 / 2 his rookie season... i'll say Fields is a much better rebounder than Battier but not as good a defender, but that can come in time... i do see similarities there as rookies, both looked like seasoned vets the minute they took the floor.
I have dropped out of the player comparison business after the Michaelton Brandney incident of 2003
STYLE OF PLAY I SAID!
TMS wrote:Bippity10 wrote:TMS wrote:Marv wrote:TMS wrote:Bippity10 wrote:Love this guy. He just plays at a different speed then everyone on the court. When shots go up, you have a few guys standing on the perimter watching. YOu have a couple guys in the paint standing and waiting for the ball to hit the room, and then you have maybe one or two guys trying to box out. Then you have Landry. No matter where he is on the floor, you can see him streaking as fast as he can to the spot where he thinks the ball is going to go. This stuff is innate and doesn't go away.As for his game, its really odd the assessments peopel have of him. A week ago we had 3 articles saying he wasn't an athlete. I'm pretty sure he's leading this team in dunks right now and definitely leads the team in pretty floating drives to the hoop. We keep hearing how he has no ball skills. Can't dribble, can't shoot. Yet he hits shots off the pick, open, drives by people fairly regularly. We keep hearing he can't play D and yet he has done a very solid job on some of the leagues best scorers. What is it about this guy that people keep expecting him to fall apart?
I actually see the opposite of some of the critics. I see a gleam in his eye. I have a feeling that at some point either this year or next he's going to realize that he's tough to guard and is going to stop deferring to some of the more passive guys on our team. I think this and his work ethic are going to help him continue to improve pretty fast. He seems the opposite of Gallo to me. I think Gallo could be a devastating offensive player right now. He's just too awkward to guard. He gets fouled everytime he drives to the hoop and his jump shot should be dangerous. I just think he lacks that killer confidence that I think Landry has. He's content to be a secondary guy. I think at some point Landry will not be. People keep trying to label him a role player, I can't understand why I'm seeing more
he really looks like a younger version of Shane Battier... very heady player on the floor, can knock down the open J, not overly explosive yet athletic & smooth, very solid defensively & seems to have that knack for being in the right place at the right time... just a nice all around player... i hope he can stick around w/this franchise for years to come, God knows we could use more players like him.
MUCH more offensively talented than shane battier.
Battier averaged 14 / 5 / 3 / 2 his rookie season... i'll say Fields is a much better rebounder than Battier but not as good a defender, but that can come in time... i do see similarities there as rookies, both looked like seasoned vets the minute they took the floor.
I have dropped out of the player comparison business after the Michaelton Brandney incident of 2003
STYLE OF PLAY I SAID!
I did say style of play!!!!!!!
AnubisADL wrote:Heh I was 110% wrong about the guy. I thought he was a scrub. He is definitely a solid role player in the NBA. He could get better but I dont see anything that suggests that too me just yet.Like I said he looks so good because he is playing at a high energy level every minute he is on the floor. He isnt taking plays off. Now while that is awesome when you are playing 15 minutes a game it starts to take it's toll when playing 30 minutes a game as a rookie.
why continue to doubt the man? I think he's played well enough to earn some respect and cast away a bit of that doubt from his non believers
Ira wrote:I like the comparison to Battier. He's a little different as any two players are, but it's still a good comparison. Imagine this kid with a jump shot. I'm still in shock that he got 17 rebounds last night.
They were almost all pure hustle, too. The Nuggets were shocked he had 11 first half rebounds, too.
NYKBocker wrote:I think he is Battier 2.0 right now, but I think his ceiling is Tayshaun Prince. Not the same play but the star level that he can achieve. I see him getting at least 1 All-Star nod in his career.
Tayshaun Prince ain't got it like Landry
if you absolutely must make a comparison, think Mike Riordan with hops
add some muscle and voilà .... Clyde Drexler
yeah I said it
misterearl wrote:NYKBocker wrote:I think he is Battier 2.0 right now, but I think his ceiling is Tayshaun Prince. Not the same play but the star level that he can achieve. I see him getting at least 1 All-Star nod in his career.Tayshaun Prince ain't got it like Landry
if you absolutely must make a comparison, think Mike Riordan with hops
add some muscle and voilà .... Clyde Drexler
yeah I said it
You crazier than me man. I like it.
Height/ Weight
Drexler 6'7, 210... Fields 6'7, 210 pounds, deep
Final Year In College
Glide at U of H - Southwest Conference Player of the Year (1983) 16 points, 3.2 assists and 10 rebounds on 35 per cent shooting, 35.
Fields at Stanford - All-Pac-10 First Team selection as a senior with 22 points, 9 rebounds and .49 per cent shooting... Led Pac-10 in scoring and rebounding... his 704 points in senior year marked third-highest single-season total in school history.
College Totals
Drexler - 14.4 points, 3.3 assists and 9.9 rebounds in three seasons at Houston
Fields - 11 points, 2 assists and 5 rebounds in four seasons at Stanford
Vertical Jump
Drexler - 44 inches, damn
Fields - 39 inches, that ain't no joke either
NBA Rookie Season
Drexler (82 games) 17 minutes avg 7.7 points, 3 rebounds .45 from the field .25 from three point range
Fields (11 games) 28 minutes avg 11 points, 7 rebounds, .58 from the field .32 from three
Playing style
"Drexler was famed for his speed and finesse on the court, and his easy-going and quiet demeanor off the court. At Houston, Drexler became known for his exceptional abilities as a finisher, but generally was not considered a great shooter. During his pro career Drexler developed a much more well-rounded game, becoming an effective post player. His extraordinary leaping abilities allowed him to be an acrobatic dunker. Drexler was versatile, and he was consistently among the leaders at his position in points, rebounds, assists, and steals."
Fields is recognized for his finesse and non-stop energy on the court, and his easy-going and quiet demeanor off the court. Expect Fields assist totals, due to excellent court awareness, to increase with experience
I'm jus sayin