Knicks · The Premature, But Still Official, Landry Fields Appreciation Thread (page 9)

Panos @ 12/9/2010 12:01 AM
What's gonna happen when Azu finally comes back. Who's starting at SG? As much as I like Fields, I think he's coming off the bench at that point.

Which by the way, is a terrific problem to have. Can't believe we have another impact player in the wings, that we haven't even played yet. Hope his knee will hold up to NBA pounding!

misterearl @ 12/9/2010 12:08 AM
The Answer Man Learned To Dig John Havicek In Person

Q. Panos - What's gonna happen when Azu finally comes back?

A. When Azubuike is able to go full speed and cut without sharp pain in 6 months, Bill Walker pushes Roger Mason to Bolivian

Q. Panos - Who's starting at SG?

A. Landry Fields

martin @ 12/9/2010 12:19 AM
Panos wrote:What's gonna happen when Azu finally comes back. Who's starting at SG? As much as I like Fields, I think he's coming off the bench at that point.

Which by the way, is a terrific problem to have. Can't believe we have another impact player in the wings, that we haven't even played yet. Hope his knee will hold up to NBA pounding!

no way Azu gets to full speed with both his knee AND familiarity with the offense and defense before April. He comes off the bench.

Panos @ 12/9/2010 12:40 AM
martin wrote:
Panos wrote:What's gonna happen when Azu finally comes back. Who's starting at SG? As much as I like Fields, I think he's coming off the bench at that point.

Which by the way, is a terrific problem to have. Can't believe we have another impact player in the wings, that we haven't even played yet. Hope his knee will hold up to NBA pounding!

no way Azu gets to full speed with both his knee AND familiarity with the offense and defense before April. He comes off the bench.

Ok, let's say he's at full strength -- whenever that is. February, March, or April.
What do you forsee? I know what Earl thinks. Personally, I really like Fields, he's a glue guy. I don't know a lot about Azu, but from what I gather he's a bigger impact player -- great D, great long range shooting.
Thoughts?

BTW, anyone have the scoop on Azu? I thought he'd be back in uniform by now?

Paladin55 @ 12/9/2010 1:11 AM
Panos wrote:
martin wrote:
Panos wrote:What's gonna happen when Azu finally comes back. Who's starting at SG? As much as I like Fields, I think he's coming off the bench at that point.

Which by the way, is a terrific problem to have. Can't believe we have another impact player in the wings, that we haven't even played yet. Hope his knee will hold up to NBA pounding!

no way Azu gets to full speed with both his knee AND familiarity with the offense and defense before April. He comes off the bench.

Ok, let's say he's at full strength -- whenever that is. February, March, or April.
What do you forsee? I know what Earl thinks. Personally, I really like Fields, he's a glue guy. I don't know a lot about Azu, but from what I gather he's a bigger impact player -- great D, great long range shooting.
Thoughts?

BTW, anyone have the scoop on Azu? I thought he'd be back in uniform by now?

MDA mentioned him on the Knicks pre-game radio show that I heard. He can't move laterally and does not seem to have the ability to do more than just go through the motions- sounds like he still has no pop in his game.

I am not counting on him at all, and will be happy if we see him playing at 80% the last few weeks of the season.

Any personnel decisions the Knicks make should be made as if Azubuike is not on our roster.

misterearl @ 12/9/2010 5:44 AM
John Havlicek was a glue guy

Labels are convenient but oh so narrow, confining and tight-fitting

Always on the move and able to match up with big guards at 6'7

Landry Fields is not a glue guy

He is an excellent, multiple-skill set, team-oriented basketball player

Azubuike is only relevant as a starter when he can do chin ups on the rim as Fields did on the nasty, two-handed, follow up dunk

Bippity10 @ 12/9/2010 11:29 AM
I have no idea waht "glue guy" means. I do know that Landry can play
Panos @ 12/9/2010 11:47 AM
Bippity10 wrote:I have no idea waht "glue guy" means. I do know that Landry can play

Yes you do. Its a guy that does a lot of things right, but is not the focus of the team.
The Knicks do not run plays for Landry. He's the fifth option on offense.

Bippity10 @ 12/9/2010 12:38 PM
Panos wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:I have no idea waht "glue guy" means. I do know that Landry can play

Yes you do. Its a guy that does a lot of things right, but is not the focus of the team.
The Knicks do not run plays for Landry. He's the fifth option on offense.

ridiculous title. I will stick with "good player"

misterearl @ 12/9/2010 1:28 PM
Earth, Wind and Fire

Panos - please, "glue" was a nice way of making Jared Jeffries sound indispensable.

Landry Fields is the fifth element in a percolatin' and orchestratin' jazz quintet

Each one of the 69-70 Knicks was a glue player. Same in 73. Cohesiveness is not just one player. It takes at least two to stick together. Preferably, all five stick together.

The beauty of the new Knicks is that they are all sticking around long enough in games to have a shot to win in the end. That is, if someone sticks a jumper like Ray did last night.

Panos @ 12/9/2010 4:08 PM
misterearl wrote:Earth, Wind and Fire

Panos - please, "glue" was a nice way of making Jared Jeffries sound indispensable.

Calling JJ2 a glue player was an insult to glue players.


misterearl wrote:Landry Fields is the fifth element in a percolatin' and orchestratin' jazz quintet

Each one of the 69-70 Knicks was a glue player. Same in 73. Cohesiveness is not just one player. It takes at least two to stick together. Preferably, all five stick together.

The beauty of the new Knicks is that they are all sticking around long enough in games to have a shot to win in the end. That is, if someone sticks a jumper like Ray did last night.

That's because of the GLUE!

misterearl @ 12/9/2010 5:52 PM
Super Glue

Panos - don't come unglued. the glue player who led the way was Ray Felton. He eyes are stuck on Amar'e. Wilson Chandler could have used stickers instead of tats. The Mayor is stuck on watching Captain Amar'e as a role model and it seems to be working. Gallo was stuck on using gel in his hair but seems to have come unglued from it, good thing he is not stuck on one look. Landry Fields made one helluva stick back dunk. Landry's game is so smooth it appears the majority of scouting grades were stuck on stupid.

cheers @ 12/10/2010 7:56 AM
Bippity10 wrote:
Panos wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:I have no idea waht "glue guy" means. I do know that Landry can play

Yes you do. Its a guy that does a lot of things right, but is not the focus of the team.
The Knicks do not run plays for Landry. He's the fifth option on offense.

ridiculous title. I will stick with "good player"

how about a compromise "good glue"

misterearl @ 12/10/2010 9:03 AM
Is Mark Hale of The Post Just Stupid?

The Headline: "Fields ready for potential rookie battle vs. Wiz kid

"Landry Fields may not have the chance to battle one of the NBA’s other elite rookies tonight. Wizards stud point guard John Wall, who was the first overall pick in the draft, is listed as day-to-day with a sore left foot, according to the team. The Wizards say Wall, who sat out Wednesday’s loss to the Kings, probably will be a game-time decision."

When the fluck was Fields going to matchup and "battle" Wall?

sheesh

martin @ 12/10/2010 3:24 PM
http://www.nj.com/knicks/index.ssf/2010/...

D'Alessandro: Almost nobody saw Landry Fields coming, but he is helping to lead Knicks out of mediocrity

Three time zones away, the only guy who isn’t surprised by the force of nature known as Landry Fields watches each Knicks game with almost a blank stare.

Maybe once in a while — after the kid comes out of the mezzanine for a stick-back slam — Steve Fields will turn from the TV in his living room in Long Beach, Calif., and ask his wife, Janice, “I can’t remember — did he get that from you or me?”

Much of it — the intelligence, the feel, the versatility, the freakish hang time and the always-revving motor — Steve Fields has seen before, and he knows it came from ... somewhere.

“He has some of my qualities,” said the father, a star at Miami-Ohio in the mid-’70s, who was a final cut on Lenny Wilkens’ Portland team in 1975. “Some of the things Landry does, I might remark to myself, ‘I did it like that, yeah.’”

He’s actually modest: Steve Fields was a major player in his day, a 6-6 wing who led Miami-Ohio in scoring and rebounding as a senior.

Landry, therefore, can attribute some of what he has to genetic luck. Not only was his dad a player, his mom was a junior college star. Steve’s uncle, Dave Barker, was a reserve on the legendary 1960 Ohio State team that featured John Havlicek and Jerry Lucas. And during Landry’s four years at Stanford, he had three — count ’em — cousins playing D-1 ball.

That explains the physical gifts.

It’s the other stuff you can’t quite account for, the qualities that seemed to turn Fields into a glue guy long before anyone should know his name. He is not only a rarity as a rookie — most come equipped with skills and hops nowadays — he’s a rarity as a player, period: a momentum-maker, the kind of guy who changes a game even though Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni doesn’t call a single play for him.

“There’s a court awareness, and a high IQ there,” Steve Fields said. “Landry has a knack for finding opportunities, and he makes things happen at both ends — a block, steal, a charge, a screen, moving without the ball.”

Too often execs fall in love with athleticism and upside on draft day, and overlook these intangibles in a player — especially from the seniors. It’s why Fields was available at No. 39 in last summer’s draft, where team president Donnie Walsh was admittedly stunned to find the 6-7 shooting guard drop into the Knicks’ locker room.

Look at him now: Among rookie qualifiers, Fields is second in rebounding (7.6), fourth in scoring (10.3), second in field-goal percentage (.517), sixth in 3-point percentage (.309), sixth in steals (0.96) and second in double-doubles (6).

As far as impact goes, he ranks behind Blake Griffin and John Wall and nobody else — and that has little to do with numbers. He is just the kind of kid who has an intuitive feel for team chemistry and the rhythms of D’Antoni’s offense. Fields makes them whole because he doesn’t need the ball, but the ball sure finds him often enough.

As Walsh put it, “Not many guys fit into any system, and he’s one of them.”

“Some players have a better sense of chemistry, but I really don’t know what goes into it,” Landry explained. “It’s probably just the personality you have. But it comes pretty naturally to me.”

Quite unnaturally, the Knicks are 14-9 heading into Washington Friday night. Not much of that makes sense. We thought one of the three centers (Ronny Turiaf, Timofey Mozgov, or Anthony Randolph) had to have major impact. Wrong. We thought one of the two shooters (Kelenna Azubuike or Roger Mason) had to be big contributors. Wrong. We thought D’Antoni would have to dial back on the bat-outta-hell style and emphasize defense more. Wrong.

That’s because there have been three startling revelations that have transformed this Knicks season into so compelling a study.

The first is all about Amar’e Stoudemire, not just his emergence as a indomitable, magnificent, inspiring leader, but the realization that he pretty much guarantees a team 40 wins just by suiting up.

The second is about Raymond Felton, who always had the skill, but has now discovered that balance between the discipline demanded by Larry Brown and the freedom provided by D’Antoni.

But the third is all about the rookie. You could see it from 3,000 miles away.

cheers @ 12/10/2010 3:29 PM
misterearl wrote:Is Mark Hale of The Post Just Stupid?

The Headline: "Fields ready for potential rookie battle vs. Wiz kid

"Landry Fields may not have the chance to battle one of the NBA’s other elite rookies tonight. Wizards stud point guard John Wall, who was the first overall pick in the draft, is listed as day-to-day with a sore left foot, according to the team. The Wizards say Wall, who sat out Wednesday’s loss to the Kings, probably will be a game-time decision."

When the fluck was Fields going to matchup and "battle" Wall?

sheesh

plus i dont get the john wall name drops when it comes to fields. fug wall. fields is a legit roy on a winning team, and wall is a bad dancer on a losing team.

misterearl @ 12/12/2010 2:49 PM
129-125

18 points on consistently accurate 7/11 shooting (still shooting over 50 per cent for the season)

9 rebounds three assists

Tenacious defense and all around non-rookie play

Markji @ 12/12/2010 3:21 PM
A great reason to keep Fields is that you don't have to run plays thru him; or give him the ball and let him do a one-on-one. He's a team player who fits in and does the other things well. Follow-up on missed shots by teammates - rebounds or puts it back in; solid D; takes good shots when he is open but otherwise passes very well. Team player who makes the team much, much better, and defers to Amare as the star and leader.
umynot @ 12/12/2010 3:24 PM
misterearl wrote:Landry fields is untradeable, untouchable and getting better all the time. Don't forget he is a rookie and working his way around the league for the first time. No, unless Donnie Walsh is a masochist and enjoys another team taking what he discovered and watching Fields play in the All Star Game, he stays right where he is.

Enough coveting of other guys

Landry Fields is the real deal

What, you don't think he will work on his shot in the offseason?

You crazy

Not to mention makes 20 times less then Melo

Fields is a KEEPER NO DOUBT!!

VDesai @ 12/12/2010 3:32 PM
Landry Fields is the player that most NBA teams don't realize that they need.
Paladin55 @ 12/12/2010 3:39 PM
I think his 1/1 D has really improved since the SL. He has become pretty good at recovering when beaten off the dribble, and gets a hand in his opponent's face, even if he is beaten.

I think you can actually make a case that he is a better fit on a Knicks team with Melo than Chandler and Gallo because he has shown he can play the 2, is a more aggressive rebounder than those two, and he does not need the ball as much to be a contributor.

If he can become consistent with his J he will be a perfect complimentary player on a team with Felton, Melo, and Amare as your big 3.

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