Knicks · "how Billups plays in the playoffs will determine if he will be back next season or not" (page 2)

Olbrannon @ 4/18/2011 9:59 AM
martin wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:The expiring has trade value if nothing else. Gotta have something of value to trade for Deron or Paul.

but really, does his expiring have any real leverage? It's good if NO wants to move OK4, but that's it. Neither NJ or NO move their guys just for Billups expiring.

Yeah...they will need something to make it work. but then again there's the same scenario Melo had where he won't sign elsewhere.

Nalod @ 4/18/2011 10:48 AM

CP3 has to come via free agent. We can't trade anymore assets.

Or,,,,,,,

CP3 has to say there is no way he is coming back and we throw them a bone but the public relations problem for NO is gonna take a big hit either way.

League owns the WhoreNets now.

I'd like to think we can draft a point with the magic touch we got Landry and or/get Felton back. I'd like to think Chauns was a prenegotiated rental for cap space. Its so rare to sign a free agent like we did and trade so soon (looks bad) and its kind of weird BIllups was included as he is so engrained in Denver fabric of community and franchise front office. Logic and wishful thinking combined. Im just thinking out loud.

CP3 leaving the hornets would kill that franchise in New Orleans. Maybe thats what they want? Owners are intent on selling these franchises for no less than 450mil these days. If it were free to move its more valuable. CP3 with a bad knee might be more of a hinderance to potential ownership. I think they try trading him off season for yoot and offer an extenstion like Nuggs did with Melo.

If N.O. upsets Lakers it could revive the franchise.

Lakes won't go down.

There is a drone outside my office recording this.

earthmansurfer @ 4/18/2011 5:05 PM
matt wrote:When Billups went out though, Knicks fell apart..

that is the worry and I commented in the Douglas thread, that remember when Billups got hurt last night and Douglas started? He tore it up. Douglas starting changes how he plays the game. What if Douglas plays great and we win, does coach start him at home as well? I say yes. (But coach wants to help Billups with his next contract.)

matt @ 4/18/2011 10:49 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:
matt wrote:When Billups went out though, Knicks fell apart..

that is the worry and I commented in the Douglas thread, that remember when Billups got hurt last night and Douglas started? He tore it up. Douglas starting changes how he plays the game. What if Douglas plays great and we win, does coach start him at home as well? I say yes. (But coach wants to help Billups with his next contract.)

Also a good point. I think tomorrow is going to be a very interesting game.. Knicks really, really need to pull this one out. Getting HCA before game 3 would be huge (if not completely essential). Shooters need to be on fire

Olbrannon @ 4/18/2011 10:58 PM
matt wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:
matt wrote:When Billups went out though, Knicks fell apart..

that is the worry and I commented in the Douglas thread, that remember when Billups got hurt last night and Douglas started? He tore it up. Douglas starting changes how he plays the game. What if Douglas plays great and we win, does coach start him at home as well? I say yes. (But coach wants to help Billups with his next contract.)

Also a good point. I think tomorrow is going to be a very interesting game.. Knicks really, really need to pull this one out. Getting HCA before game 3 would be huge (if not completely essential). Shooters need to be on fire

We won't have to worry about that until he wins a game eh?

joec32033 @ 4/19/2011 5:39 AM
My opinion on this is on this team we do not need the best PG, we need the PG who is the best fit. With 2 ball dominant players a ball dominant PG is not the best fit. I feel like you need a PG like a Douglas. A defender who can hit the three and start the offense. I really think a guy like Paul-who I don't like- or Deron-who I really like would be a waste of financial assets.
earthmansurfer @ 4/25/2011 9:18 AM
joec32033 wrote:My opinion on this is on this team we do not need the best PG, we need the PG who is the best fit. With 2 ball dominant players a ball dominant PG is not the best fit. I feel like you need a PG like a Douglas. A defender who can hit the three and start the offense. I really think a guy like Paul-who I don't like- or Deron-who I really like would be a waste of financial assets.

After seeing Douglas, I might disagree with you - we might have to bring back Billups. And, I agreed with you before the playoffs started. Perhaps if we had a SG who could score it wouldn't be so bad (hopefully Fields is back strong next year).

The way things are looking, we really really need a pg if we don't bring Billups back. And I'm not sure we should. He is not going to be a pg for 40 minutes a night, that is for sure as he will break down. Again, we are between a rock and a hard place. We need the offseason and the draft to REALLY fall in our favor.

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