AnubisADL wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:93BUICK wrote:blkexec wrote:93BUICK wrote:I live in Ft Greene I knew this would NEVER be like they said it was- Ratner's buildings are all over dwtn Brooklyn and they are all ugly chain stores. BOOOOOOOOOOOO Nets suck and the city (Brooklyn) got suck-erd.
Yes sir.....Ft. Greene. Entire family is from there. Too bad I can't visit without a bullet proof vest. lol
Have you been there recently? It's all Brunch and Farmer's Markets now- it's gone from hip-hop to flip-flop
Haha, +1 to this! If a realtor says a spot is in Fort Greene these days, it's actually Clinton Hill. If they say Clinton Hill, it's deep Bed Stuy :P
It's actually Stuvestant Heights now. 
Haha, yea forgot about that, but I can't even get too mad at that neighborhood name because that actually is a real name. "Bedford-Stuyvesant" is sort of a "superneighborhood" (hence the hyphen), with Stuy Heights that being one of them.
But yea, "Do or Die Bed-Stuy" ain't what you put on a real estate listing, haha.
PresIke wrote:the stadium will open as scheduled, i believe. i drive by it every day and it's well on it's way, but it's the other parts that aren't happening.basically, the word is there will be a stadium and parking lot.
It'll be interesting how much usage that parking lot eventually gets. The Atlantic/Flatbush/4th intersection isn't all that pleasant today with no arena. They'll need to push the fact that there's the 9 or 10 subway lines to stop right by there.
PresIke wrote:the stadium will open as scheduled, i believe. i drive by it every day and it's well on it's way, but it's the other parts that aren't happening.basically, the word is there will be a stadium and parking lot.
There is a housing crunch in B'klyn. Have to agree with Blobman...build it...
the nets would have been better off staying in the prudential center.
Sangfroid wrote:PresIke wrote:the stadium will open as scheduled, i believe. i drive by it every day and it's well on it's way, but it's the other parts that aren't happening.basically, the word is there will be a stadium and parking lot.
There is a housing crunch in B'klyn. Have to agree with Blobman...build it...
the point is sangfroid, is that a stadium is being built, and a housing complex is not-
Ratner got the sweety deal he has by promising affordable housing in a beautiful Frank Gehry building.
Now it's just going to be a stadium.
93BUICK wrote:Sangfroid wrote:PresIke wrote:the stadium will open as scheduled, i believe. i drive by it every day and it's well on it's way, but it's the other parts that aren't happening.basically, the word is there will be a stadium and parking lot.
There is a housing crunch in B'klyn. Have to agree with Blobman...build it...
the point is sangfroid, is that a stadium is being built, and a housing complex is not-
Ratner got the sweety deal he has by promising affordable housing in a beautiful Frank Gehry building.
Now it's just going to be a stadium.
What is 'affordable housing' really? Is that welfare stuff?
I worked for a state senator who spent time trying to expose this scam for what it was 1-2 years ago.
Forest City Ratner was given MTA owned land valued at 100 million for 20 million. Then that 20 million could be paid over the course of 10 years or something crazy like that. Then, Ratner wasn't even the highest bid for the project yet they still somehow got it.
Ratner promised affordable housing, had a community benefits agreements with some churchs and "community folks" who were basically hustling for their own self-interest. Ratner basically paid them to sell the project by promising them some stuff in an agreement, which I'm pretty sure is non-binding.
Then he gets the gov't to displace all of these people, builds the stadium FIRST, and says hey you know what, we can't afford to do all that other shit we promised we would do. My bad.
The project doesn't bring a significant amount of jobs, it taxes local infrastructure like water, sewer, etc, and the independant budget office released a report which says it's a net loss in revenue for brooklyn.
NO affordable housing, no community beenfits, few jobs, but thats how these things work. Its not as bad as Yankee stadium which costed tax payers 1 billion dollars and netted 23 full time jobs. not 230, 23. thats 16 more jobs than I provide in in my 750 sq ft restaurant. unbelievable.
Capitalism is organized crime.
Killa4luv wrote:I worked for a state senator who spent time trying to expose this scam for what it was 1-2 years ago. Forest City Ratner was given MTA owned land valued at 100 million for 20 million. Then that 20 million could be paid over the course of 10 years or something crazy like that. Then, Ratner wasn't even the highest bid for the project yet they still somehow got it.
Ratner promised affordable housing, had a community benefits agreements with some churchs and "community folks" who were basically hustling for their own self-interest. Ratner basically paid them to sell the project by promising them some stuff in an agreement, which I'm pretty sure is non-binding.
Then he gets the gov't to displace all of these people, builds the stadium FIRST, and says hey you know what, we can't afford to do all that other shit we promised we would do. My bad.
The project doesn't bring a significant amount of jobs, it taxes local infrastructure like water, sewer, etc, and the independant budget office released a report which says it's a net loss in revenue for brooklyn.
NO affordable housing, no community beenfits, few jobs, but thats how these things work. Its not as bad as Yankee stadium which costed tax payers 1 billion dollars and netted 23 full time jobs. not 230, 23. thats 16 more jobs than I provide in in my 750 sq ft restaurant. unbelievable.
Capitalism is organized crime.
this is where our whole country is headed, if it isn't there already.
Killa4luv wrote:I worked for a state senator who spent time trying to expose this scam for what it was 1-2 years ago. Forest City Ratner was given MTA owned land valued at 100 million for 20 million. Then that 20 million could be paid over the course of 10 years or something crazy like that. Then, Ratner wasn't even the highest bid for the project yet they still somehow got it.
Ratner promised affordable housing, had a community benefits agreements with some churchs and "community folks" who were basically hustling for their own self-interest. Ratner basically paid them to sell the project by promising them some stuff in an agreement, which I'm pretty sure is non-binding.
Then he gets the gov't to displace all of these people, builds the stadium FIRST, and says hey you know what, we can't afford to do all that other shit we promised we would do. My bad.
The project doesn't bring a significant amount of jobs, it taxes local infrastructure like water, sewer, etc, and the independant budget office released a report which says it's a net loss in revenue for brooklyn.
NO affordable housing, no community beenfits, few jobs, but thats how these things work. Its not as bad as Yankee stadium which costed tax payers 1 billion dollars and netted 23 full time jobs. not 230, 23. thats 16 more jobs than I provide in in my 750 sq ft restaurant. unbelievable.
Capitalism is organized crime.
Hear, hear. Great post killa. Didn't know that about Yankee Stadium either, wow. Have they even built that park for the kids yet?
If you haven't been there yet: http://www.fieldofschemes.com/
