Knicks · yikes.. Ive been critical of Melo's shortcomings but this is just hate from ESPN (page 2)

Until the Knicks win a meaningful series this crap is going to be put out there.

GustavBahler wrote:Until the Knicks win a meaningful series this crap is going to be put out there.

Dolan's Knicks have been an embarrassment for a decade. Until they win in the playoffs, the comments aren't "crap." You have to start somewhere, but winning one series is a pretty low bar.

Gallo won't be a breakout star. Even if he has it in him to go toe to toe with Melo/LeBron, etc., he still has a European mindset. He needs to demand the ball if he ever wants to be a star in this league, and that ain't happening this year on a very deep Nuggets team. What the Nuggets have going is their versatility and chemistry, and Gallo isn't going to disrupt that just so he can get his own.

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Until the Knicks win a meaningful series this crap is going to be put out there.

Dolan's Knicks have been an embarrassment for a decade. Until they win in the playoffs, the comments aren't "crap." You have to start somewhere, but winning one series is a pretty low bar.

You are pinning an entire decade of losing on a player who has been here a few months so it is crap. I said win a meaningful series, like getting to the ECF to shut up the critics for a while, not erase a decade of losing. I doubt anyone here thinks that would be enough.

only one thing to do and is prove them wrong.

Get swept its ugly.

Go 5 and its still ugly.

Go 6 and you got respect.

Go 7 and lose you got progress and respect.

win the series and you change it.

Nalod wrote:only one thing to do and is prove them wrong.

Get swept its ugly.

Go 5 and its still ugly.

Go 6 and you got respect.

Go 7 and lose you got progress and respect.

win the series and you change it.

exactly nalod. i think thats the perfect chart.

a series win is unlikely but not out of the question. they turned it on last year come playoff time but i think the knicks have the best player in this series (melo) if he plays up to it.

you win the series and you earn the respect from everyone -- the haters on ESPN, the haters on TNT, peter vescey, et al.

Only one way to change the hate.

Gotta earn it.

The only way to change espns stance on the Knicks is if we beat the Celts. Then they will have to eat their words. Espn will still have haters, they always seem to bash on NY sport teams.What made me laugh a few at espn made it sound like Pierce is better then melo hahaha. Espn writers always seem to be laughable at times, that's just terrible journalism. Do these writers at espn even watch basketball? I can't wait to see Melo lock down Pierce on defense and dominate him on the offense.Pierce is good but no where near the player Melo is.Anyone who has watched the Knicks knows Melo is stepping up his D as of late.I can only think he is going to step up the defense another notch for the playoffs..

Sorry to break heart but pierce >> melo.

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Until the Knicks win a meaningful series this crap is going to be put out there.

Dolan's Knicks have been an embarrassment for a decade. Until they win in the playoffs, the comments aren't "crap." You have to start somewhere, but winning one series is a pretty low bar.

You are pinning an entire decade of losing on a player who has been here a few months so it is crap. I said win a meaningful series, like getting to the ECF to shut up the critics for a while, not erase a decade of losing. I doubt anyone here thinks that would be enough.

On one player? I know you couldn't have gotten that from the sentence I actually typed. I'd pin it on Dolan and Cablevision, not one or any player.

Olbrannon wrote:

olbranon this is a fantastic clip. we get so used to charles clowning that we forget that he was a genuine bad man in his time. i loved shaq swinging at him and charles tackling shaq. and rudy t going off and then getting a t, his assistant coach bodying the ref, the idiots taking shaq and charles out through the tunnel at the same time. that is just one awesome clip.

Marv wrote:

Olbrannon wrote:

olbranon this is a fantastic clip. we get so used to charles clowning that we forget that he was a genuine bad man in his time. i loved shaq swinging at him and charles tackling shaq. and rudy t going off and then getting a t, his assistant coach bodying the ref, the idiots taking shaq and charles out through the tunnel at the same time. that is just one awesome clip.

They should have awarded Barkeley two points for the take down

If I remember correctly during his playing days Charles was dying to play here. He is just a bitter, rotund, funny man.

Wow, I've never heard anyone at ESPN or any national media talk about Chandler or Gallo in remotely those terms before. Gallo is impossible to stop? Chandler the most underrated defender in the league? I loved and overrated both players when they were on my team, but nothing like this. At this point, I'm really wondering if they say things like this on purpose to rile up New Yorkers...

VDesai wrote:Wow, I've never heard anyone at ESPN or any national media talk about Chandler or Gallo in remotely those terms before. Gallo is impossible to stop? Chandler the most underrated defender in the league? I loved and overrated both players when they were on my team, but nothing like this. At this point, I'm really wondering if they say things like this on purpose to rile up New Yorkers...

good thing we're beyond that, right?

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Until the Knicks win a meaningful series this crap is going to be put out there.

Dolan's Knicks have been an embarrassment for a decade. Until they win in the playoffs, the comments aren't "crap." You have to start somewhere, but winning one series is a pretty low bar.

You are pinning an entire decade of losing on a player who has been here a few months so it is crap. I said win a meaningful series, like getting to the ECF to shut up the critics for a while, not erase a decade of losing. I doubt anyone here thinks that would be enough.

On one player? I know you couldn't have gotten that from the sentence I actually typed. I'd pin it on Dolan and Cablevision, not one or any player.

I comment on a thread about Melo "Hate" and you bring up "a decade of losing". So yes, it sounded like you were trying to attach Melo to the past.

VDesai wrote:Wow, I've never heard anyone at ESPN or any national media talk about Chandler or Gallo in remotely those terms before. Gallo is impossible to stop? Chandler the most underrated defender in the league? I loved and overrated both players when they were on my team, but nothing like this. At this point, I'm really wondering if they say things like this on purpose to rile up New Yorkers...

ESPN is located in Bristol, CT - which is Red Sox country. You do the math.

VDesai wrote:Wow, I've never heard anyone at ESPN or any national media talk about Chandler or Gallo in remotely those terms before. Gallo is impossible to stop? Chandler the most underrated defender in the league? I loved and overrated both players when they were on my team, but nothing like this. At this point, I'm really wondering if they say things like this on purpose to rile up New Yorkers...

It seems that Gallo's and Will's improvement was as simple as switching their jerseys.

orangeblobman wrote:Sorry to break heart but pierce >> melo.

Gimme a break, man. Spout hate, but this is just silly.

loweyecue wrote:My expectations for this season have been met, we are at .500 for the season and with this type of trade that's about as much as I could reasonably hope for. In the playoffs I do think we have a shot gainst the Celtics (about 1 in 3). As a fan I hope we sweep the crap out of the retarded mofos, but that's just the fan part of me. I think this Melo love (among knick fans) will end abruptly with the playoff exit and those that hated the trade will be telling us how right they were throughout the offseason. And those that favored it will argue w/o the trade we may not even have made he playoffs. None of this makes a lot of sense, but it's what we do.

yeah as much as i want the knicks to go far in the playoffs, i'm realistic. but haters of the trade are chomping at the bit that we go down in the first rd.

Panos wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:Sorry to break heart but pierce >> melo.

Gimme a break, man. Spout hate, but this is just silly.

How is Pierce better than Melo? One thing I know is that if Melo is on fire, Pierce will be headed to the bench and the C's will be in a huge world of hurt. I would LOVE to see the Knicks take one of the games in Boston! The shock that would be felt in the Celtic world would be unreal. The Celtic announcers were talking so much crap last night about how easy this series is gonna be that I want more than anything for the Knicks to win this series so we can watch Pierce walk off the court broken and sad.