Rick Adelman doesn't care about shots falling in more than defense.
Juice wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Rick Adelman has had success with multiple franchises. This guy is right behind Phil Jackson and Greg Popovich.
Would you want George Karl if he were free regardless if we had Melo or not?
George Karl is a jackass.
martin wrote:unstopaball12 wrote:this is the guy i want!!!!!!!!he balances offense with defense! not like MDA.
im scared to get a defensive coach because STAT might not listen to him( look at th suns) when they hired terry porter
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamsta...
teams had nearly identical Offensive and Defensive Efficiency stats.
This is more of an endorsement - I certainly didn't watch any of the Houston games- but I think you could argue that they have lesser talent, and certainly, lesser stars than we do at present.
franco12 wrote:martin wrote:unstopaball12 wrote:this is the guy i want!!!!!!!!he balances offense with defense! not like MDA.
im scared to get a defensive coach because STAT might not listen to him( look at th suns) when they hired terry porter
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamsta...
teams had nearly identical Offensive and Defensive Efficiency stats.
This is more of an endorsement - I certainly didn't watch any of the Houston games- but I think you could argue that they have lesser talent, and certainly, lesser stars than we do at present.
lesser stars at present may certainly be true, but that's not the whole context of the season.
2 games closer to Rick Adelman.
I've always liked Adelman...I don't think most fans realize what his record actually has been over all these years. He has a very impressive track record. Probably has accomplished just as much as Sloan with as much recognition. Both guys have serious resumes. I don't think your reasoning can be "keep D'Antoni because there is no on better." There are good coaches out there. I'm not convinced you fire MDA yet, but I do like Adelman.
I don't see that our problem is about coaching. I see that we need upgrades to the roster. That's where the biggest improvements are going to come. We need quality size, PG, SG and quality depth. If i'm the GM that's what I would be looking to do over the next 2 years. Then this team will be a bonafide title team.
Adelman is a good coach and i'd have no problem with him, but to be honest most of what a team does is talent based. Everyone was riding Collins jock and now that he's in the series with the Heat his team just can't compete regardless of how good a coaching job he's done. 1st let's fix the holes in this roster and then worry about the coach. He's the least of our problems.
Wow. How short the memories are. Before Mike D'Antoni's "no defense, all offense" Suns were Rick Adelman's "no defense, all offense" Kings.
To say Rick Adelman coaches both sides of the ball is kind of funny. I even remember his Portland teams in the early 90s weren't exactly known for their defense, though they did make a Final.
I'm in the camp that says Adelman for D'Antoni is a pretty lateral move.
Put JVG on the table and we'll talk.
I think Adelman is a better coach than MDA. He will bring more defensive intensity and I think in the long run, we will be a better team if we bring him in. Unfortunately, I doubt it happens.
If MDA can have the team playing D the way they have been the last few games then we have no problem at coach...I hope the defensive intensity is a result of MDA somehow caring about the defensive end of things...Adelman is no defferent than MDA...Adelman just doesn't have a system...
crzymdups wrote:Wow. How short the memories are. Before Mike D'Antoni's "no defense, all offense" Suns were Rick Adelman's "no defense, all offense" Kings.To say Rick Adelman coaches both sides of the ball is kind of funny. I even remember his Portland teams in the early 90s weren't exactly known for their defense, though they did make a Final.
I'm in the camp that says Adelman for D'Antoni is a pretty lateral move.
Put JVG on the table and we'll talk.
adelman took ova 4 jvg in houston and had that team playing at a higher level immediately..jvg is most overrated coach..without having a star player like ewing having the coaches back the players dont buy into his bs
AnubisADL wrote:Solace wrote:Do we need another coach that fans are going to give up on no matter what happens? I like Adelman, but I'll pass. The moment we get him, people will start longing for MDA. 
I think people forget what he did in Houston with a2 often injured stars.
The guy gets results unlike D'Antoni. No one can tell me Houston had a great team the last few years.
what results has he gotten that dantoni hasn't?
unstopaball12 wrote:compare the talent he has to what we have. There team faces powerhouse like the sprus,lakers,mavs and thunder 4 times a year compared to us. The kings havent made the playoffs since he has left. and most importantly he ADJUSTS to the situation, not like Mike to continues to play people off position. This guy will get everything out of our players!
what do you think dantoni's record was like out west? take a look
tkf wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Solace wrote:Do we need another coach that fans are going to give up on no matter what happens? I like Adelman, but I'll pass. The moment we get him, people will start longing for MDA.
I think people forget what he did in Houston with a2 often injured stars.
The guy gets results unlike D'Antoni. No one can tell me Houston had a great team the last few years.
what results has he gotten that dantoni hasn't?
I think Adelman is slightly better but It's not by much. I think he wins by getting more out of less against tougher comp.
Sloan IS DAT COACH over anyone right now
tkf wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Solace wrote:Do we need another coach that fans are going to give up on no matter what happens? I like Adelman, but I'll pass. The moment we get him, people will start longing for MDA.
I think people forget what he did in Houston with a2 often injured stars.
The guy gets results unlike D'Antoni. No one can tell me Houston had a great team the last few years.
what results has he gotten that dantoni hasn't?
Rick Adelman has gotten results with 3 teams with different kinds of talent.
Portland, Sacremento, and Houston.
D'Antoni has only had success with Steve Nash.
AnubisADL wrote:tkf wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Solace wrote:Do we need another coach that fans are going to give up on no matter what happens? I like Adelman, but I'll pass. The moment we get him, people will start longing for MDA.
I think people forget what he did in Houston with a2 often injured stars.
The guy gets results unlike D'Antoni. No one can tell me Houston had a great team the last few years.
what results has he gotten that dantoni hasn't?
Rick Adelman has gotten results with 3 teams with different kinds of talent.
Portland, Sacremento, and Houston.
D'Antoni has only had success with Steve Nash.
mostly all you are saying is that Adelman has been around longer.
martin wrote:AnubisADL wrote:tkf wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Solace wrote:Do we need another coach that fans are going to give up on no matter what happens? I like Adelman, but I'll pass. The moment we get him, people will start longing for MDA.
I think people forget what he did in Houston with a2 often injured stars.
The guy gets results unlike D'Antoni. No one can tell me Houston had a great team the last few years.
what results has he gotten that dantoni hasn't?
Rick Adelman has gotten results with 3 teams with different kinds of talent.
Portland, Sacremento, and Houston.
D'Antoni has only had success with Steve Nash.
mostly all you are saying is that Adelman has been around longer.
Im saying D'Antoni was in NY 2 years prior and didnt do shit.
AnubisADL wrote:martin wrote:AnubisADL wrote:tkf wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Solace wrote:Do we need another coach that fans are going to give up on no matter what happens? I like Adelman, but I'll pass. The moment we get him, people will start longing for MDA.
I think people forget what he did in Houston with a2 often injured stars.
The guy gets results unlike D'Antoni. No one can tell me Houston had a great team the last few years.
what results has he gotten that dantoni hasn't?
Rick Adelman has gotten results with 3 teams with different kinds of talent.
Portland, Sacremento, and Houston.
D'Antoni has only had success with Steve Nash.
mostly all you are saying is that Adelman has been around longer.
Im saying D'Antoni was in NY 2 years prior and didnt do shit.
duh. so insightful.
martin wrote:
duh. so insightful.
Adelman is a more versatile coach than D'Antoni. Adelman tailors the system to the players he has not the other way around.
AnubisADL wrote:martin wrote:
duh. so insightful.
Adelman is a more versatile coach than D'Antoni. Adelman tailors the system to the players he has not the other way around.
keep it going dude, I think you are on a role. Perhaps you can let us know how Adelman adapted his system to his GSW teams and match that to how MDA did it with his first 2 years in NY. Both are a 2 year window. Both had crappy players. Both came after initial success with their first teams.
Seems about similar scenarios. Bring me some insight.
he is a players coach. Makes sure people know their roles, he plays a Center for crying out loud, not a forward who can shoot 3's as a center
