babyKnicks wrote:You're right. You win. I'll stick to field goal percentage, 3 percentage, rebounds per game, defense and age with fields.
You stick to opinions and highlight videos.
My bad.
Landry Fields has better stats than alot of NBA SG's. He has better percentages and rebounds than Kobe Bryant. So what.
Reality is Landry Fields has weak handle and has difficulty creating his own shot. Im still waiting for Wilson Chandler to develop that SG handle.
Childs2Dudley wrote:Everyday I see why Anubis supported Isiah.
let me get this straight... when you throw something in someone's face, it's cool?
Can dish it out, but can't take it, I suppose
SupremeCommander wrote:Childs2Dudley wrote:Everyday I see why Anubis supported Isiah.
let me get this straight... when you throw something in someone's face, it's cool?
Can dish it out, but can't take it, I suppose
Childs2Dudley wrote:The entire point is that I see people asking about why people aren't "manning up" and bumping threads gloating and I honestly can't understand it. I've been right and wrong on many occasions, but I never advertise it (unless that person was an Isiah fan and still is, that's unforgivable). I admit it and I move on. I don't need to make threads to validate myself whether I am right or wrong. I want what is best for the franchise and not what is best for me to look good. And that is not directed at you and neither is anything else. It's the point I'm trying to make. Good arguments and discussions are great but when they dissolve into "I'm better than you" then it gets irritating.
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...
Keep trying to fan the flames.
Childs2Dudley wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Childs2Dudley wrote:Everyday I see why Anubis supported Isiah.
let me get this straight... when you throw something in someone's face, it's cool?
Can dish it out, but can't take it, I suppose
Childs2Dudley wrote:The entire point is that I see people asking about why people aren't "manning up" and bumping threads gloating and I honestly can't understand it. I've been right and wrong on many occasions, but I never advertise it (unless that person was an Isiah fan and still is, that's unforgivable). I admit it and I move on. I don't need to make threads to validate myself whether I am right or wrong. I want what is best for the franchise and not what is best for me to look good. And that is not directed at you and neither is anything else. It's the point I'm trying to make. Good arguments and discussions are great but when they dissolve into "I'm better than you" then it gets irritating.
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...
Keep trying to fan the flames.
a sophisticated, well-articulated brand of hypocrisy. I will give you that
Maybe so, but that is how much I hate the man.
babyKnicks wrote:You guys are kidding me.
Center or point guard only. I'm pretty sure we can all agree that's what we need
No, other than the 3 and 4, we need upgrades everywhere else, including the 2. Not saying JR is the answer, but we def need a more reliable 2.
No, no... a thousand times no.
As Uptown recognizes, JR is exactly NOT what the Knicks need. Talented... but volatile and a problem off the court. Not worth the drama.
Donnie Walsh will explore finding another Mozgov via an unorthodox route. With only one draft selection the Knicks must use that selection wisely.
Go big.
AnubisADL wrote:babyKnicks wrote:You're right. You win. I'll stick to field goal percentage, 3 percentage, rebounds per game, defense and age with fields.
You stick to opinions and highlight videos.
My bad.
Landry Fields has better stats than alot of NBA SG's. He has better percentages and rebounds than Kobe Bryant. So what.
Reality is Landry Fields has weak handle and has difficulty creating his own shot. Im still waiting for Wilson Chandler to develop that SG handle.
We don't need another person to create their own. That's why we have stat and Melo. We need someone who can spot up for the open j and finishes reliably on the rim when he has a chance, rebounds and plays all out. Oh wait we have Fields.
backcourt of a lifetime.. jr smith and gilbert arenas. go get em donnie!
Let's get Mike D'antoni another shooter.
Don't forget balance and chemistry.
Fields next to felton was a great mix. Lando next to billups is not as.
Fans see results but Coaches have to project what could be and be accountable for results.
Fields is a slasher and good open shooter. He'll get better. JR at 25 is who he is. I think a great off the bench player and if he gets a brain a Jason Terry type.
We need Lando's rebounding and intangibles.
The rest I'll let Walsh or whomever figure it out. What do we know.
nykshaknbake wrote:We don't need another person to create their own. That's why we have stat and Melo. We need someone who can spot up for the open j and finishes reliably on the rim when he has a chance, rebounds and plays all out. Oh wait we have Fields.
So Amare and Carmelo will never miss games for the next 4 yrs of their contract? We need a 3rd guy who can put the ball on the floor and score. If we had Chris Paul or Deron Williams we could get by without a prototypical SG. Thing is we arent getting either and PG's who can facilitate AND score come a premium.
If we had a 3rd scorer we might have squeezed out a win in game 2.
AnubisADL wrote:nykshaknbake wrote:We don't need another person to create their own. That's why we have stat and Melo. We need someone who can spot up for the open j and finishes reliably on the rim when he has a chance, rebounds and plays all out. Oh wait we have Fields.
So Amare and Carmelo will never miss games for the next 4 yrs of their contract? We need a 3rd guy who can put the ball on the floor and score. If we had Chris Paul or Deron Williams we could get by without a prototypical SG. Thing is we arent getting either and PG's who can facilitate AND score come a premium.
If we had a 3rd scorer we might have squeezed out a win in game 2.
You don't try to acquire pieces by considering what you'll need if your star player(s) get hurt. You add pieces by considering what type of help your star(s) need when someone else may need to step up.
Take James Harden for example. He is the PERFECT piece for the KD/Westbrook tandem, and he's more of a spot up shooter than creator.
No way, no how to JR Smith. Dude may be able to shoot, but he's got a BA in Knucklehead. He would bring bad mojo to this team. Just say "no" to chemistry wreckers. ut yes, we need some solid shooters to space the floor. "Brick" Mason Jr. ain't any sort of answer.
AnubisADL wrote:nykshaknbake wrote:We don't need another person to create their own. That's why we have stat and Melo. We need someone who can spot up for the open j and finishes reliably on the rim when he has a chance, rebounds and plays all out. Oh wait we have Fields.
So Amare and Carmelo will never miss games for the next 4 yrs of their contract? We need a 3rd guy who can put the ball on the floor and score. If we had Chris Paul or Deron Williams we could get by without a prototypical SG. Thing is we arent getting either and PG's who can facilitate AND score come a premium.
If we had a 3rd scorer we might have squeezed out a win in game 2.
So the ninety percent or so times that we have both our stars healthy what does jr do? Spot shoot worse than fields? Improve team chemistry with his great on and off court demeanor? If we got him instead of a big or point we'd truly be in that's so crazy it might just work territory.
JrZyHuStLa wrote:AnubisADL wrote:nykshaknbake wrote:We don't need another person to create their own. That's why we have stat and Melo. We need someone who can spot up for the open j and finishes reliably on the rim when he has a chance, rebounds and plays all out. Oh wait we have Fields.
So Amare and Carmelo will never miss games for the next 4 yrs of their contract? We need a 3rd guy who can put the ball on the floor and score. If we had Chris Paul or Deron Williams we could get by without a prototypical SG. Thing is we arent getting either and PG's who can facilitate AND score come a premium.
If we had a 3rd scorer we might have squeezed out a win in game 2.
You don't try to acquire pieces by considering what you'll need if your star player(s) get hurt. You add pieces by considering what type of help your star(s) need when someone else may need to step up.
Take James Harden for example. He is the PERFECT piece for the KD/Westbrook tandem, and he's more of a spot up shooter than creator.
You arent getting James Harden who was the 5th pick in the draft.
JR Smith can hit spot up shots and create. The guy is versatile. Heh I'd love to get a young Ray Allen but that isnt happening.
2011 & 2012 Free Agents:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story...Please show me the great C, SG, and PG prospects that we can get with the MLE.
We probably would have to sign & trade for JR Smith because he is worth at least 7 million per in the open market.
AnubisADL wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:AnubisADL wrote:nykshaknbake wrote:We don't need another person to create their own. That's why we have stat and Melo. We need someone who can spot up for the open j and finishes reliably on the rim when he has a chance, rebounds and plays all out. Oh wait we have Fields.
So Amare and Carmelo will never miss games for the next 4 yrs of their contract? We need a 3rd guy who can put the ball on the floor and score. If we had Chris Paul or Deron Williams we could get by without a prototypical SG. Thing is we arent getting either and PG's who can facilitate AND score come a premium.
If we had a 3rd scorer we might have squeezed out a win in game 2.
You don't try to acquire pieces by considering what you'll need if your star player(s) get hurt. You add pieces by considering what type of help your star(s) need when someone else may need to step up.
Take James Harden for example. He is the PERFECT piece for the KD/Westbrook tandem, and he's more of a spot up shooter than creator.
You arent getting James Harden who was the 5th pick in the draft.
JR Smith can hit spot up shots and create. The guy is versatile. Heh I'd love to get a young Ray Allen but that isnt happening.
No one said we should go after Harden.
JrZyHuStLa wrote:AnubisADL wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:AnubisADL wrote:nykshaknbake wrote:We don't need another person to create their own. That's why we have stat and Melo. We need someone who can spot up for the open j and finishes reliably on the rim when he has a chance, rebounds and plays all out. Oh wait we have Fields.
So Amare and Carmelo will never miss games for the next 4 yrs of their contract? We need a 3rd guy who can put the ball on the floor and score. If we had Chris Paul or Deron Williams we could get by without a prototypical SG. Thing is we arent getting either and PG's who can facilitate AND score come a premium.
If we had a 3rd scorer we might have squeezed out a win in game 2.
You don't try to acquire pieces by considering what you'll need if your star player(s) get hurt. You add pieces by considering what type of help your star(s) need when someone else may need to step up.
Take James Harden for example. He is the PERFECT piece for the KD/Westbrook tandem, and he's more of a spot up shooter than creator.
You arent getting James Harden who was the 5th pick in the draft.
JR Smith can hit spot up shots and create. The guy is versatile. Heh I'd love to get a young Ray Allen but that isnt happening.
No one said we should go after Harden.
Im saying we aren't going to get a Harden type player on the open market this summer.
What are you getting from him that this team NEEDs that you aren't from Landry Fields at a cheaper price? We don't need another slasher and Fields is a better shooter and gets boards which this team sorely lacks. If you want to ink him to a 1 year MLE, fine but no more than that. I doubt he accepts that. But we don't want to be locked in for multiple years hampering our ability to upgrade our positions of weakness. Chances are he'd be sulking that he wasn't getting touches and creating trouble for the team anyway.
AnubisADL wrote:2011 & 2012 Free Agents: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story...Please show me the great C, SG, and PG prospects that we can get with the MLE.
We probably would have to sign & trade for JR Smith because he is worth at least 7 million per in the open market.
