Off Topic · It's Been a Bad Week for GOP Lies About Obama...(from Huffington Post) (page 2)

SupremeCommander @ 5/19/2011 1:46 AM
Markji wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Markji wrote:Here's an interesting concept from ancient India - "As are the ruled, so is the ruler" ... and also it holds that "As is the ruler, so are the ruled."

Basically saying the collective consciousness of the people determines the ruler they get. So therefore, the solution to having better, more competent rulers is to raise the collective consciousness of the people.

I like it. To continue quoting classics (Art of War) though:

10. Poverty of the State exchequer causes an army to be maintained by contributions from a distance. Contributing to maintain an army at a distance causes the people to be impoverished.

11. On the other hand, the proximity of an army causes prices to go up; and high prices cause the people's substance to be drained away.

12. When their substance is drained away, the peasantry will be afflicted by heavy exactions.

13,14. With this loss of substance and exhaustion of strength, the homes of the people will be stripped bare, and three-tenths of their income will be dissipated; while government expenses for broken chariots, worn-out horses, breast-plates and helmets, bows and arrows, spears and shields, protective mantles, draught-oxen and heavy wagons, will amount to four-tenths of its total revenue.

hard to raise the collective consciosness of the people, when people are more concerned with the immediate, in large part due to overextension of our assets

(10 - 14) That is very true and it's the state of our present economy. It's a downward spiral. We need to cut military spending.

To answer your 2nd part - The people can transcend the level of incompetence of the gov't by raising their own individual consciousness. The sum total of the consciousness of all of the people equals the national consciousness. To enliven one's own consciousness, a person needs to experience Pure Consciousness at the basis of one's mind. Transcendental Meditation, which is part of Yoga, enlivens a person's consciousness, and therefore, drop by drop, enlivens the collective consciousness of the nation. This is the way out of our current dilemma.

I agree that this is possible, as it was proven by Dr. Martine LUther King employing Hendry David Thoreau's "Civil Disobedience" and Mohandas Gandhi employing Leo Tolstoy's "The Kingdom of GOd is Within You", raising the collective consciousness, and effectively ending eras.

These events, however, had something on the present--people were willing to risk the status quo. The discomfort of resfuisng society was an marginal improvement on the status quo. Whereas it is difficult to make the sacrifices necessary to raise a person's consciousness if they are happy, indifferent, or disappointed.

Individual suffering is the primary input into raising the collective consciousness, due to the people's refusal to acquiesce to such senselessness. But, when comfortable, instead of contributing to the collective consciousness, the people seek upward social mobility. Money, cash, hoes, money, cash, hoes, WHAT!

SupremeCommander @ 5/19/2011 1:46 AM
and why the fuck doesn't Pringles coach defense?
Nalod @ 5/19/2011 7:33 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:and why the fuck doesn't Pringles coach defense?

He does. Its a passive subconscious inverted subterranean form by which the opposing team thinks there is no defense but what happens is they have to battle their inner childhood fears by facing the oppressive conflict between self discipline and unrestrained pleasure. Thus the pace of the game quickens in a very short period of time and the opponent finds themselves down by 15 points before they even realize time has clicked off.

It is an ancient practice perfected by a small mongolian tribe that used to frustrate "Atilla the Hun" who could not capture this small patch of land within his province. They remained independent of him as they could not be defeated and they were never the aggressor.

The knicks, when properly rostered will out score opponents and defend when they need to. By controlling the tempo of the game they are in a rhythm they desire.

In the 2008 election Obama snatched the presidency away from Hilary who had thought she had won. Once Obama took control she was in his pace and could not feel comfortable in it. She lost.

Only play the good rookies.

Markji @ 5/19/2011 9:47 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Markji wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Markji wrote:Here's an interesting concept from ancient India - "As are the ruled, so is the ruler" ... and also it holds that "As is the ruler, so are the ruled."

Basically saying the collective consciousness of the people determines the ruler they get. So therefore, the solution to having better, more competent rulers is to raise the collective consciousness of the people.

I like it. To continue quoting classics (Art of War) though:

10. Poverty of the State exchequer causes an army to be maintained by contributions from a distance. Contributing to maintain an army at a distance causes the people to be impoverished.

11. On the other hand, the proximity of an army causes prices to go up; and high prices cause the people's substance to be drained away.

12. When their substance is drained away, the peasantry will be afflicted by heavy exactions.

13,14. With this loss of substance and exhaustion of strength, the homes of the people will be stripped bare, and three-tenths of their income will be dissipated; while government expenses for broken chariots, worn-out horses, breast-plates and helmets, bows and arrows, spears and shields, protective mantles, draught-oxen and heavy wagons, will amount to four-tenths of its total revenue.

hard to raise the collective consciosness of the people, when people are more concerned with the immediate, in large part due to overextension of our assets

(10 - 14) That is very true and it's the state of our present economy. It's a downward spiral. We need to cut military spending.

To answer your 2nd part - The people can transcend the level of incompetence of the gov't by raising their own individual consciousness. The sum total of the consciousness of all of the people equals the national consciousness. To enliven one's own consciousness, a person needs to experience Pure Consciousness at the basis of one's mind. Transcendental Meditation, which is part of Yoga, enlivens a person's consciousness, and therefore, drop by drop, enlivens the collective consciousness of the nation. This is the way out of our current dilemma.

I agree that this is possible, as it was proven by Dr. Martine LUther King employing Hendry David Thoreau's "Civil Disobedience" and Mohandas Gandhi employing Leo Tolstoy's "The Kingdom of GOd is Within You", raising the collective consciousness, and effectively ending eras.

These events, however, had something on the present--people were willing to risk the status quo. The discomfort of resfuisng society was an marginal improvement on the status quo. Whereas it is difficult to make the sacrifices necessary to raise a person's consciousness if they are happy, indifferent, or disappointed.

Individual suffering is the primary input into raising the collective consciousness, due to the people's refusal to acquiesce to such senselessness. But, when comfortable, instead of contributing to the collective consciousness, the people seek upward social mobility. Money, cash, hoes, money, cash, hoes, WHAT!


Very true.....people have to feel a need for something in order to go for it. The old saying, "Ignorance is Bliss" is wrong. Ignorance brings lack of desire for change, lack of desire for improving oneself. But once people know of , or experience something better, they will go for it. This is what's happening in the Middle East now, and other 3rd world countries. People want what they see is available in other countries....better lives for themselves and their family.

For the individual, the experience of Ananda, or Bliss, in Transcendental Consciousness, gives the experience of unsurpassable happiness. So once experienced, people want it again and again. Therefore, the continuation of Transcendental Meditation resulting automatically in the raising of individual consciousness. The key here is the experience.

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