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I will take my chances with Amare and Carmelo.
AnubisADL wrote:Chicago Bulls are pretenders. Deng is often injured and depending on him to stay healthy or consistent is fools gold.I will take my chances with Amare and Carmelo.
"often injured". so often he played in all 82 games this year.
AnubisADL wrote:Chicago Bulls are pretenders. Deng is often injured and depending on him to stay healthy or consistent is fools gold.I will take my chances with Amare and Carmelo.
I would like our team to pretend all the way to the ECF.
Vmart wrote:fishmike wrote:knicks1248 wrote:how many years where the Knicks terrible?knickstorrents wrote:To build that team you need patience. Too bad Dolan doesn't have any.Maybe you forgot 10 year of being " THE TERRI BULLS"
At the least Bulls had a plan. They tried to build around two young 7 footers in the frontcourt. One a great scorer, one a great defender. They couldnt stay healthy for starters and Curry simply wasnt very good but is that plan that bad? Is that worse plan than building around Marbury? Around McDyess? Did the Bulls ever trade picks for a star player? Worst thing they did was trade for Jalen Rose, a very ISiah like trade but the rest wasnt bad. They stuck to using the draft, after 10 years got an MVP caliber player and have another shot at a dynasty
Fish, it is the coach that decides what to implement and how to implement it. You speak of Riley he is a coach that has a great ability top adapt to his talents and get the most out his players. Boozer is by no means a great defensive player. Deng wasn't a defensive force neither was Rose for that matter. Only defensive stand out the Bulls had was Noah. It was Tibs that implement his system of defense. He emphasized it in practice and in game until he was getting the most out of the players he had. MDA has to do the same thing he needs to stay with the program from day one to the end to see results of defense. He can't be half azzed in his approach to defense. The great coaches always stay with defense and don't let up on it. The great coaches call time out when he senses his defense if faltering. As for what a player gets paid I don't see what your hang up is about that. It didn't stop Tibs from implementing his system with the Celtics did it? I think they have three big money players on that team that weren't know for their defense and Tibs was able to get them to play defense. I remember Tibs sitting his entire first unit for lack of defense early in the season, sending statements to his star and every player if you want to play, better start buying into my system. Very similar to the way MDA handles players for not playing offense the way he likes it.
I don't really like to say it as you have freedom to say what ever you want, but you are on a hate ramble.
Thibs and pretty much the whole Bulls community will kindly disagree with the bolded statement.
I will agree with you that a coach must emphasize defense - it's a must - but you have to have the defensive talent, especially in the bigs department, to become very good at it from a team perspective. No way around it. Same with offense.
martin wrote:Vmart wrote:fishmike wrote:knicks1248 wrote:how many years where the Knicks terrible?knickstorrents wrote:To build that team you need patience. Too bad Dolan doesn't have any.Maybe you forgot 10 year of being " THE TERRI BULLS"
At the least Bulls had a plan. They tried to build around two young 7 footers in the frontcourt. One a great scorer, one a great defender. They couldnt stay healthy for starters and Curry simply wasnt very good but is that plan that bad? Is that worse plan than building around Marbury? Around McDyess? Did the Bulls ever trade picks for a star player? Worst thing they did was trade for Jalen Rose, a very ISiah like trade but the rest wasnt bad. They stuck to using the draft, after 10 years got an MVP caliber player and have another shot at a dynasty
Fish, it is the coach that decides what to implement and how to implement it. You speak of Riley he is a coach that has a great ability top adapt to his talents and get the most out his players. Boozer is by no means a great defensive player. Deng wasn't a defensive force neither was Rose for that matter. Only defensive stand out the Bulls had was Noah. It was Tibs that implement his system of defense. He emphasized it in practice and in game until he was getting the most out of the players he had. MDA has to do the same thing he needs to stay with the program from day one to the end to see results of defense. He can't be half azzed in his approach to defense. The great coaches always stay with defense and don't let up on it. The great coaches call time out when he senses his defense if faltering. As for what a player gets paid I don't see what your hang up is about that. It didn't stop Tibs from implementing his system with the Celtics did it? I think they have three big money players on that team that weren't know for their defense and Tibs was able to get them to play defense. I remember Tibs sitting his entire first unit for lack of defense early in the season, sending statements to his star and every player if you want to play, better start buying into my system. Very similar to the way MDA handles players for not playing offense the way he likes it.
I don't really like to say it as you have freedom to say what ever you want, but you are on a hate ramble.
Thibs and pretty much the whole Bulls community will kindly disagree with the bolded statement.
I will agree with you that a coach must emphasize defense - it's a must - but you have to have the defensive talent, especially in the bigs department, to become very good at it from a team perspective. No way around it. Same with offense.
I never saw Deng as a defensive demon. As for Bigs and MDA please don't get me started, that is MDA's down fall.
fishmike wrote:knicks1248 wrote:how many years where the Knicks terrible?knickstorrents wrote:To build that team you need patience. Too bad Dolan doesn't have any.Maybe you forgot 10 year of being " THE TERRI BULLS"
At the least Bulls had a plan. They tried to build around two young 7 footers in the frontcourt. One a great scorer, one a great defender. They couldnt stay healthy for starters and Curry simply wasnt very good but is that plan that bad? Is that worse plan than building around Marbury? Around McDyess? Did the Bulls ever trade picks for a star player? Worst thing they did was trade for Jalen Rose, a very ISiah like trade but the rest wasnt bad. They stuck to using the draft, after 10 years got an MVP caliber player and have another shot at a dynasty
How quickly you forget. Once a team starts winning the past becomes all rosy.
martin wrote:that was my point... thats why I brought up the Knicks of the 90s. Coached by a great offensive mind who recognized there simply wasnt very much offensive talent. Really none. So why pretend your going to outscore opponents? Nelly tried.. it just doesnt work.Vmart wrote:fishmike wrote:knicks1248 wrote:how many years where the Knicks terrible?knickstorrents wrote:To build that team you need patience. Too bad Dolan doesn't have any.Maybe you forgot 10 year of being " THE TERRI BULLS"
At the least Bulls had a plan. They tried to build around two young 7 footers in the frontcourt. One a great scorer, one a great defender. They couldnt stay healthy for starters and Curry simply wasnt very good but is that plan that bad? Is that worse plan than building around Marbury? Around McDyess? Did the Bulls ever trade picks for a star player? Worst thing they did was trade for Jalen Rose, a very ISiah like trade but the rest wasnt bad. They stuck to using the draft, after 10 years got an MVP caliber player and have another shot at a dynasty
Fish, it is the coach that decides what to implement and how to implement it. You speak of Riley he is a coach that has a great ability top adapt to his talents and get the most out his players. Boozer is by no means a great defensive player. Deng wasn't a defensive force neither was Rose for that matter. Only defensive stand out the Bulls had was Noah. It was Tibs that implement his system of defense. He emphasized it in practice and in game until he was getting the most out of the players he had. MDA has to do the same thing he needs to stay with the program from day one to the end to see results of defense. He can't be half azzed in his approach to defense. The great coaches always stay with defense and don't let up on it. The great coaches call time out when he senses his defense if faltering. As for what a player gets paid I don't see what your hang up is about that. It didn't stop Tibs from implementing his system with the Celtics did it? I think they have three big money players on that team that weren't know for their defense and Tibs was able to get them to play defense. I remember Tibs sitting his entire first unit for lack of defense early in the season, sending statements to his star and every player if you want to play, better start buying into my system. Very similar to the way MDA handles players for not playing offense the way he likes it.
I don't really like to say it as you have freedom to say what ever you want, but you are on a hate ramble.
Thibs and pretty much the whole Bulls community will kindly disagree with the bolded statement.
I will agree with you that a coach must emphasize defense - it's a must - but you have to have the defensive talent, especially in the bigs department, to become very good at it from a team perspective. No way around it. Same with offense.
Knicks played very hard on defense against Boston. They just dont have stoppers. None.
You want good defense? Go get some good defenders. Until that happens quit blaming the coach. Shouldnt be hard to understand
Vmart wrote:BS... the Bulls were a joke. All I said is they had a plan. That was to build via the draft. It failed (repeatedly) for 10 years but for what its worth they stuck to the philosophy and look now.fishmike wrote:knicks1248 wrote:how many years where the Knicks terrible?knickstorrents wrote:To build that team you need patience. Too bad Dolan doesn't have any.Maybe you forgot 10 year of being " THE TERRI BULLS"
At the least Bulls had a plan. They tried to build around two young 7 footers in the frontcourt. One a great scorer, one a great defender. They couldnt stay healthy for starters and Curry simply wasnt very good but is that plan that bad? Is that worse plan than building around Marbury? Around McDyess? Did the Bulls ever trade picks for a star player? Worst thing they did was trade for Jalen Rose, a very ISiah like trade but the rest wasnt bad. They stuck to using the draft, after 10 years got an MVP caliber player and have another shot at a dynasty
How quickly you forget. Once a team starts winning the past becomes all rosy.
Killa4luv wrote:who played better in that series?fishmike wrote:yea.. we traded the roster for a guy who gets smoked by Paul Pierce head to head, but stars win titles.Really?
Game 1 Melo = 13pt 4rb 4ass Pierce = 18pt 4rb 4assists
Game 2 Melo = 42pt 17rb 6ass Pierce= 20pt 5r 2a
Game 4 Melo = 15 11 6 Pierce= 38 3 1
Game 3 Melo = 32pt 9rb 3ass Pierce= 13 5 3If by "smoked by paul pierce" you mean, scorched him twice, out-rebounded and out-assisted him in every game then yeah, I agree.
The only thing that smoked us in that series was Chauncey's knee and Amare's back.
Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:fishmike wrote:knicks1248 wrote:how many years where the Knicks terrible?knickstorrents wrote:To build that team you need patience. Too bad Dolan doesn't have any.Maybe you forgot 10 year of being " THE TERRI BULLS"
At the least Bulls had a plan. They tried to build around two young 7 footers in the frontcourt. One a great scorer, one a great defender. They couldnt stay healthy for starters and Curry simply wasnt very good but is that plan that bad? Is that worse plan than building around Marbury? Around McDyess? Did the Bulls ever trade picks for a star player? Worst thing they did was trade for Jalen Rose, a very ISiah like trade but the rest wasnt bad. They stuck to using the draft, after 10 years got an MVP caliber player and have another shot at a dynasty
Fish, it is the coach that decides what to implement and how to implement it. You speak of Riley he is a coach that has a great ability top adapt to his talents and get the most out his players. Boozer is by no means a great defensive player. Deng wasn't a defensive force neither was Rose for that matter. Only defensive stand out the Bulls had was Noah. It was Tibs that implement his system of defense. He emphasized it in practice and in game until he was getting the most out of the players he had. MDA has to do the same thing he needs to stay with the program from day one to the end to see results of defense. He can't be half azzed in his approach to defense. The great coaches always stay with defense and don't let up on it. The great coaches call time out when he senses his defense if faltering. As for what a player gets paid I don't see what your hang up is about that. It didn't stop Tibs from implementing his system with the Celtics did it? I think they have three big money players on that team that weren't know for their defense and Tibs was able to get them to play defense. I remember Tibs sitting his entire first unit for lack of defense early in the season, sending statements to his star and every player if you want to play, better start buying into my system. Very similar to the way MDA handles players for not playing offense the way he likes it.
I don't really like to say it as you have freedom to say what ever you want, but you are on a hate ramble.
Thibs and pretty much the whole Bulls community will kindly disagree with the bolded statement.
I will agree with you that a coach must emphasize defense - it's a must - but you have to have the defensive talent, especially in the bigs department, to become very good at it from a team perspective. No way around it. Same with offense.
I never saw Deng as a defensive demon. As for Bigs and MDA please don't get me started, that is MDA's down fall.
Not sure if you just don't watch the Bulls or what, Deng is decent defensive player: Thibs always puts him on the toughest wing assignment.
1) What credible bigs doesn't MDA play? 2) What C's has he had?
fishmike wrote:Vmart wrote:BS... the Bulls were a joke. All I said is they had a plan. That was to build via the draft. It failed (repeatedly) for 10 years but for what its worth they stuck to the philosophy and look now.fishmike wrote:knicks1248 wrote:how many years where the Knicks terrible?knickstorrents wrote:To build that team you need patience. Too bad Dolan doesn't have any.Maybe you forgot 10 year of being " THE TERRI BULLS"
At the least Bulls had a plan. They tried to build around two young 7 footers in the frontcourt. One a great scorer, one a great defender. They couldnt stay healthy for starters and Curry simply wasnt very good but is that plan that bad? Is that worse plan than building around Marbury? Around McDyess? Did the Bulls ever trade picks for a star player? Worst thing they did was trade for Jalen Rose, a very ISiah like trade but the rest wasnt bad. They stuck to using the draft, after 10 years got an MVP caliber player and have another shot at a dynasty
How quickly you forget. Once a team starts winning the past becomes all rosy.
Plan is a plan it can work either way. Draft or trade just look at the Celtics. Lakers are a good example also. Any way you look at it the Knicks are not lucky when it come to the draft. So they always end up with lower tier picks. Sure they made bad moves that why the Knicks sucked for a long time. But now its a different time with two very good players to build around its a good plan that Walsh has.
martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:fishmike wrote:knicks1248 wrote:how many years where the Knicks terrible?knickstorrents wrote:To build that team you need patience. Too bad Dolan doesn't have any.Maybe you forgot 10 year of being " THE TERRI BULLS"
At the least Bulls had a plan. They tried to build around two young 7 footers in the frontcourt. One a great scorer, one a great defender. They couldnt stay healthy for starters and Curry simply wasnt very good but is that plan that bad? Is that worse plan than building around Marbury? Around McDyess? Did the Bulls ever trade picks for a star player? Worst thing they did was trade for Jalen Rose, a very ISiah like trade but the rest wasnt bad. They stuck to using the draft, after 10 years got an MVP caliber player and have another shot at a dynasty
Fish, it is the coach that decides what to implement and how to implement it. You speak of Riley he is a coach that has a great ability top adapt to his talents and get the most out his players. Boozer is by no means a great defensive player. Deng wasn't a defensive force neither was Rose for that matter. Only defensive stand out the Bulls had was Noah. It was Tibs that implement his system of defense. He emphasized it in practice and in game until he was getting the most out of the players he had. MDA has to do the same thing he needs to stay with the program from day one to the end to see results of defense. He can't be half azzed in his approach to defense. The great coaches always stay with defense and don't let up on it. The great coaches call time out when he senses his defense if faltering. As for what a player gets paid I don't see what your hang up is about that. It didn't stop Tibs from implementing his system with the Celtics did it? I think they have three big money players on that team that weren't know for their defense and Tibs was able to get them to play defense. I remember Tibs sitting his entire first unit for lack of defense early in the season, sending statements to his star and every player if you want to play, better start buying into my system. Very similar to the way MDA handles players for not playing offense the way he likes it.
I don't really like to say it as you have freedom to say what ever you want, but you are on a hate ramble.
Thibs and pretty much the whole Bulls community will kindly disagree with the bolded statement.
I will agree with you that a coach must emphasize defense - it's a must - but you have to have the defensive talent, especially in the bigs department, to become very good at it from a team perspective. No way around it. Same with offense.
I never saw Deng as a defensive demon. As for Bigs and MDA please don't get me started, that is MDA's down fall.
Not sure if you just don't watch the Bulls or what, Deng is decent defensive player: Thibs always puts him on the toughest wing assignment.
1) What credible bigs doesn't MDA play? 2) What C's has he had?
You don't need credible big in todays NBA you just need bigs. Tibs gets a Center like Asik minutes on MDA's team he dog house material.
Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:fishmike wrote:knicks1248 wrote:how many years where the Knicks terrible?knickstorrents wrote:To build that team you need patience. Too bad Dolan doesn't have any.Maybe you forgot 10 year of being " THE TERRI BULLS"
At the least Bulls had a plan. They tried to build around two young 7 footers in the frontcourt. One a great scorer, one a great defender. They couldnt stay healthy for starters and Curry simply wasnt very good but is that plan that bad? Is that worse plan than building around Marbury? Around McDyess? Did the Bulls ever trade picks for a star player? Worst thing they did was trade for Jalen Rose, a very ISiah like trade but the rest wasnt bad. They stuck to using the draft, after 10 years got an MVP caliber player and have another shot at a dynasty
Fish, it is the coach that decides what to implement and how to implement it. You speak of Riley he is a coach that has a great ability top adapt to his talents and get the most out his players. Boozer is by no means a great defensive player. Deng wasn't a defensive force neither was Rose for that matter. Only defensive stand out the Bulls had was Noah. It was Tibs that implement his system of defense. He emphasized it in practice and in game until he was getting the most out of the players he had. MDA has to do the same thing he needs to stay with the program from day one to the end to see results of defense. He can't be half azzed in his approach to defense. The great coaches always stay with defense and don't let up on it. The great coaches call time out when he senses his defense if faltering. As for what a player gets paid I don't see what your hang up is about that. It didn't stop Tibs from implementing his system with the Celtics did it? I think they have three big money players on that team that weren't know for their defense and Tibs was able to get them to play defense. I remember Tibs sitting his entire first unit for lack of defense early in the season, sending statements to his star and every player if you want to play, better start buying into my system. Very similar to the way MDA handles players for not playing offense the way he likes it.
I don't really like to say it as you have freedom to say what ever you want, but you are on a hate ramble.
Thibs and pretty much the whole Bulls community will kindly disagree with the bolded statement.
I will agree with you that a coach must emphasize defense - it's a must - but you have to have the defensive talent, especially in the bigs department, to become very good at it from a team perspective. No way around it. Same with offense.
I never saw Deng as a defensive demon. As for Bigs and MDA please don't get me started, that is MDA's down fall.
Not sure if you just don't watch the Bulls or what, Deng is decent defensive player: Thibs always puts him on the toughest wing assignment.
1) What credible bigs doesn't MDA play? 2) What C's has he had?
You don't need credible big in todays NBA you just need bigs. Tibs gets a Center like Asik minutes on MDA's team he dog house material.
hey thanks for having a discussion. Nothing like just making shit up. Feel free to take a shot at answering my questions.
Splitter, the best so-called big man out of Europe in a long time, was in Pop's dog house. Who cares though, right?
martin wrote:did he only shoot 3's? MDA would love himVmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:fishmike wrote:knicks1248 wrote:how many years where the Knicks terrible?knickstorrents wrote:To build that team you need patience. Too bad Dolan doesn't have any.Maybe you forgot 10 year of being " THE TERRI BULLS"
At the least Bulls had a plan. They tried to build around two young 7 footers in the frontcourt. One a great scorer, one a great defender. They couldnt stay healthy for starters and Curry simply wasnt very good but is that plan that bad? Is that worse plan than building around Marbury? Around McDyess? Did the Bulls ever trade picks for a star player? Worst thing they did was trade for Jalen Rose, a very ISiah like trade but the rest wasnt bad. They stuck to using the draft, after 10 years got an MVP caliber player and have another shot at a dynasty
Fish, it is the coach that decides what to implement and how to implement it. You speak of Riley he is a coach that has a great ability top adapt to his talents and get the most out his players. Boozer is by no means a great defensive player. Deng wasn't a defensive force neither was Rose for that matter. Only defensive stand out the Bulls had was Noah. It was Tibs that implement his system of defense. He emphasized it in practice and in game until he was getting the most out of the players he had. MDA has to do the same thing he needs to stay with the program from day one to the end to see results of defense. He can't be half azzed in his approach to defense. The great coaches always stay with defense and don't let up on it. The great coaches call time out when he senses his defense if faltering. As for what a player gets paid I don't see what your hang up is about that. It didn't stop Tibs from implementing his system with the Celtics did it? I think they have three big money players on that team that weren't know for their defense and Tibs was able to get them to play defense. I remember Tibs sitting his entire first unit for lack of defense early in the season, sending statements to his star and every player if you want to play, better start buying into my system. Very similar to the way MDA handles players for not playing offense the way he likes it.
I don't really like to say it as you have freedom to say what ever you want, but you are on a hate ramble.
Thibs and pretty much the whole Bulls community will kindly disagree with the bolded statement.
I will agree with you that a coach must emphasize defense - it's a must - but you have to have the defensive talent, especially in the bigs department, to become very good at it from a team perspective. No way around it. Same with offense.
I never saw Deng as a defensive demon. As for Bigs and MDA please don't get me started, that is MDA's down fall.
Not sure if you just don't watch the Bulls or what, Deng is decent defensive player: Thibs always puts him on the toughest wing assignment.
1) What credible bigs doesn't MDA play? 2) What C's has he had?
You don't need credible big in todays NBA you just need bigs. Tibs gets a Center like Asik minutes on MDA's team he dog house material.
hey thanks for having a discussion. Nothing like just making shit up. Feel free to take a shot at answering my questions.
Splitter, the best so-called big man out of Europe in a long time, was in Pop's dog house. Who cares though, right?
fishmike wrote:Vmart wrote:I think the bigger example that the Bulls give out more so than anything else is DEFENSE. MDA can take a page out of that book forget the player Knicks will have the horses come next year. The bigger question is can MDA make the Knicks players into defensive juggernauts. I highly doubt it, but let see what happens.
No... the bigger question would be could a coach like Thibs get players who make $20mm and go to all star games withOUT playing much defense their whole careers change now? Knoa was a great defensive player since college. Boozer has always been an elite rebounder. Deng has always been a good defensive player as well. Rose doesnt play any defense and everyone knows it, but you look at the parts and there are all the pieces for being a great defensive team. A lock down wing, a lock down big, anothe elite rebounder...VMart what are the Knick pieces for being a great defensive team? Coaching? Please tell me you know more about sports than that.
Riley coached showtime... why coulnt he "teach" Ewing, Starks, Mason and Oak to push the ball and be more dynamic on offense like Kareem, Magic, Worth and Byron were? Shouldnt a GOOD coach be able to do that?
funny stuff.
I guess than a coach has no role at all. He can't influence the offensive or defensive prowess of a team. If that's the case why the hard on for mda?
martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:fishmike wrote:knicks1248 wrote:how many years where the Knicks terrible?knickstorrents wrote:To build that team you need patience. Too bad Dolan doesn't have any.Maybe you forgot 10 year of being " THE TERRI BULLS"
At the least Bulls had a plan. They tried to build around two young 7 footers in the frontcourt. One a great scorer, one a great defender. They couldnt stay healthy for starters and Curry simply wasnt very good but is that plan that bad? Is that worse plan than building around Marbury? Around McDyess? Did the Bulls ever trade picks for a star player? Worst thing they did was trade for Jalen Rose, a very ISiah like trade but the rest wasnt bad. They stuck to using the draft, after 10 years got an MVP caliber player and have another shot at a dynasty
Fish, it is the coach that decides what to implement and how to implement it. You speak of Riley he is a coach that has a great ability top adapt to his talents and get the most out his players. Boozer is by no means a great defensive player. Deng wasn't a defensive force neither was Rose for that matter. Only defensive stand out the Bulls had was Noah. It was Tibs that implement his system of defense. He emphasized it in practice and in game until he was getting the most out of the players he had. MDA has to do the same thing he needs to stay with the program from day one to the end to see results of defense. He can't be half azzed in his approach to defense. The great coaches always stay with defense and don't let up on it. The great coaches call time out when he senses his defense if faltering. As for what a player gets paid I don't see what your hang up is about that. It didn't stop Tibs from implementing his system with the Celtics did it? I think they have three big money players on that team that weren't know for their defense and Tibs was able to get them to play defense. I remember Tibs sitting his entire first unit for lack of defense early in the season, sending statements to his star and every player if you want to play, better start buying into my system. Very similar to the way MDA handles players for not playing offense the way he likes it.
I don't really like to say it as you have freedom to say what ever you want, but you are on a hate ramble.
Thibs and pretty much the whole Bulls community will kindly disagree with the bolded statement.
I will agree with you that a coach must emphasize defense - it's a must - but you have to have the defensive talent, especially in the bigs department, to become very good at it from a team perspective. No way around it. Same with offense.
I never saw Deng as a defensive demon. As for Bigs and MDA please don't get me started, that is MDA's down fall.
Not sure if you just don't watch the Bulls or what, Deng is decent defensive player: Thibs always puts him on the toughest wing assignment.
1) What credible bigs doesn't MDA play? 2) What C's has he had?
You don't need credible big in todays NBA you just need bigs. Tibs gets a Center like Asik minutes on MDA's team he dog house material.
hey thanks for having a discussion. Nothing like just making shit up. Feel free to take a shot at answering my questions.
Splitter, the best so-called big man out of Europe in a long time, was in Pop's dog house. Who cares though, right?
Nice come back giving me players in other coaches dog house, guess what what do Pop and MDA have in common, both are sitting home after round one. You always ask me who and what MDA has had. I keep telling you he has had Shaq and was unhappy with that. He like PFs playing center but you refuse to understand that.
Vmart wrote:Nice come back giving me players in other coaches dog house, guess what what do Pop and MDA have in common, both are sitting home after round one. You always ask me who and what MDA has had. I keep telling you he has had Shaq and was unhappy with that. He like PFs playing center but you refuse to understand that.
Shaq played 28 games and started with MDA each one of them. Played ~28 minutes a game, same as he did the 2 previous years with Miami.
Vmart, I keep asking you to identify the C's MDA has had and you can't come up with a list, cause there isn't one, and thus he has been forced to play Amare and some other PF-like guys at C.
My questions remain: 1) What credible bigs doesn't MDA play? 2) What C's has he had?
When you work at a pizza joint that only serves pizza, saying a cook is horrible and inflexible at the place because he never makes pancakes is just very weird.
When Timo played hard in practice he got a shot to start. It seems simple enough. Darko's problem was that he felt entitled!!! He didn't think he needed to earn it and that was a mistake that many NBA players make. Maybe the Knicks will look at a guy like Kris Humphries. He's not the greatest, but he busts it every minute he's out there! Chuck Hayes and Louis Amundson are also guys that give great effort. Chuck is smallish but effective. Krylo Fasenko, Kwame Brown or Aaron Gray are some other cheap options. Donnie should be able to get something done given how many players are actually available this summer.
nixluva wrote:How is it Knick fans that watched the team didn't seem to notice that we played Turiaf, Timo, Jared and Shelden Williams this year? Do those non shooting bigs not count? The only one of them that attempted 3's was Jared. Also the only real C he had worth playing was Shaq. If Darko came in shape and busted it he would've played. At some point it has to be acknowledged that a player has to produce and give 100%. When did we see Darko give 100% when he was here?When Timo played hard in practice he got a shot to start. It seems simple enough. Darko's problem was that he felt entitled!!! He didn't think he needed to earn it and that was a mistake that many NBA players make. Maybe the Knicks will look at a guy like Kris Humphries. He's not the greatest, but he busts it every minute he's out there! Chuck Hayes and Louis Amundson are also guys that give great effort. Chuck is smallish but effective. Krylo Fasenko, Kwame Brown or Aaron Gray are some other cheap options. Donnie should be able to get something done given how many players are actually available this summer.
The question now becomes how is it that the more talented Randloph and Jordan Hill never got run under MDA? And out of all those you listed only one is a legit center that is Timo who is 7'1. The rest are PFs and one is a small forward and pretty much a scrub. The question that remains to be answered is you can give MDA a center but will he play the center big minutes starter minutes and not go to gimmick lineup mode with PF at center. My personal feeling is that MDA will not be able to do it he will have Amare logging heavy minutes at Center position again next year regardless of who comes in. Unless it is Howard and then he will play him probably out of spite, because he stands to look like a fool if he doesn't just as in the Shaq case, he may have played Shaq in Phoenix but make no mistake MDA didn't enjoy having Shaq.