Portland is non-committal in offering Greg the qualifying offer of 8.8 mil for next season...If Portland doesn't make the offer, should we take a chance offering 4 mil per over two years?...Is he worth the risk, be it small?...Can we talk him into it given the pieces we have?..If somehow he can give you 20-25 mins, 8 boards with some D, hey....Do we offer Portland a Fields, or Douglas?..hmm....
AnubisADL@ 5/27/2011 5:41 PM
He is going to take some serious cash to come here. I still believe the guy is serviceable and better than 80% of the centers out there.
I throw the full MLE guaranteed at the guy for 3-4 years.
Allanfan20@ 5/27/2011 5:56 PM
AnubisADL wrote:He is going to take some serious cash to come here. I still believe the guy is serviceable and better than 80% of the centers out there.
I throw the full MLE guaranteed at the guy for 3-4 years.
I'll take a shot at him too. A big presence like that is worth it.
Portland is non-committal in offering Greg the qualifying offer of 8.8 mil for next season...If Portland doesn't make the offer, should we take a chance offering 4 mil per over two years?...Is he worth the risk, be it small?...Can we talk him into it given the pieces we have?..If somehow he can give you 20-25 mins, 8 boards with some D, hey....Do we offer Portland a Fields, or Douglas?..hmm....
Did you read the article?
Dude can't start running until September.
You would make an offer for a guy who has played 82 games over the past 4 years with 2 microfracture injuries and other assorted injuries?
holfresh@ 5/27/2011 6:43 PM
ESPN Broussaud said today Riley wants to make a run at Oden...If they get him and he can play, it's over for the next 5 years...
Portland is non-committal in offering Greg the qualifying offer of 8.8 mil for next season...If Portland doesn't make the offer, should we take a chance offering 4 mil per over two years?...Is he worth the risk, be it small?...Can we talk him into it given the pieces we have?..If somehow he can give you 20-25 mins, 8 boards with some D, hey....Do we offer Portland a Fields, or Douglas?..hmm....
Did you read the article?
Dude can't start running until September.
You would make an offer for a guy who has played 82 games over the past 4 years with 2 microfracture injuries and other assorted injuries?
I'm with you Martin. If Greg Oden was on this team, people would be spending days and nights trying to trade him off the team, or having long threads about how useless he is. But because he is on another team, we should throw the farm at him. How about we see what the new CBA looks like, whos available over the summer, and see who would fit the team.
Portland is non-committal in offering Greg the qualifying offer of 8.8 mil for next season...If Portland doesn't make the offer, should we take a chance offering 4 mil per over two years?...Is he worth the risk, be it small?...Can we talk him into it given the pieces we have?..If somehow he can give you 20-25 mins, 8 boards with some D, hey....Do we offer Portland a Fields, or Douglas?..hmm....
Did you read the article?
Dude can't start running until September.
You would make an offer for a guy who has played 82 games over the past 4 years with 2 microfracture injuries and other assorted injuries?
I know...4 mil per over 2 isn't a big risk..I may ever do a little more...We gave Moz 3 mil per and Jared 6 per...
Portland is non-committal in offering Greg the qualifying offer of 8.8 mil for next season...If Portland doesn't make the offer, should we take a chance offering 4 mil per over two years?...Is he worth the risk, be it small?...Can we talk him into it given the pieces we have?..If somehow he can give you 20-25 mins, 8 boards with some D, hey....Do we offer Portland a Fields, or Douglas?..hmm....
Did you read the article?
Dude can't start running until September.
You would make an offer for a guy who has played 82 games over the past 4 years with 2 microfracture injuries and other assorted injuries?
I know...4 mil per over 2 isn't a big risk..I may ever do a little more...We gave Moz 3 mil per and Jared 6 per...
you would make a guy an offer even if he has not shown he can run and wouldn't be able to until September?
Portland is non-committal in offering Greg the qualifying offer of 8.8 mil for next season...If Portland doesn't make the offer, should we take a chance offering 4 mil per over two years?...Is he worth the risk, be it small?...Can we talk him into it given the pieces we have?..If somehow he can give you 20-25 mins, 8 boards with some D, hey....Do we offer Portland a Fields, or Douglas?..hmm....
Did you read the article?
Dude can't start running until September.
You would make an offer for a guy who has played 82 games over the past 4 years with 2 microfracture injuries and other assorted injuries?
I know...4 mil per over 2 isn't a big risk..I may ever do a little more...We gave Moz 3 mil per and Jared 6 per...
you would make a guy an offer even if he has not shown he can run and wouldn't be able to until September?
Jared? That was Isiah, who is a f'ing moron.
Well we aren't trying to win it this year and won't be able to fill that void anytime soon...September isn't a prob...If he can play by Jan or Feb is cool with me, If he can play...
CrushAlot@ 5/27/2011 7:29 PM
AnubisADL wrote:He is going to take some serious cash to come here. I still believe the guy is serviceable and better than 80% of the centers out there.
I throw the full MLE guaranteed at the guy for 3-4 years.
+1. Next I would hire a coach that would play him.
Papabear@ 5/27/2011 8:34 PM
holfresh wrote:ESPN Broussaud said today Riley wants to make a run at Oden...If they get him and he can play, it's over for the next 5 years...
Papabear Says
How can Riley do this? Isn't he over the cap?
matt@ 5/27/2011 8:35 PM
The dude can't stay on the court, so no
CrushAlot@ 5/27/2011 8:40 PM
matt wrote:The dude can't stay on the court, so no
I think he would use the MLE if it is still in place.
AnubisADL@ 5/27/2011 9:07 PM
Oden with reduced minutes would be AWESOME for us. We have Amare and Melo here. You tell Oden to grab boards defend and get put backs.
The reason you have to offer the MLE for multiple years is because some contending team will make him an offer. :Cough: Boston, Miami, etc.
The guy isnt a scrub he is just injury prone. Honestly as long as he is healthy for the playoff I could care less if he didn't play 70% of the season. Think Bynum with the Lakers.
Portland is non-committal in offering Greg the qualifying offer of 8.8 mil for next season...If Portland doesn't make the offer, should we take a chance offering 4 mil per over two years?...Is he worth the risk, be it small?...Can we talk him into it given the pieces we have?..If somehow he can give you 20-25 mins, 8 boards with some D, hey....Do we offer Portland a Fields, or Douglas?..hmm....
Did you read the article?
Dude can't start running until September.
You would make an offer for a guy who has played 82 games over the past 4 years with 2 microfracture injuries and other assorted injuries?
We only need Oden healthy for the playoffs. The centers in the league suck. That is why A broken down Jermaine Oneal got a 2 year deal worth the MLE and he STAYS injured.
Portland is non-committal in offering Greg the qualifying offer of 8.8 mil for next season...If Portland doesn't make the offer, should we take a chance offering 4 mil per over two years?...Is he worth the risk, be it small?...Can we talk him into it given the pieces we have?..If somehow he can give you 20-25 mins, 8 boards with some D, hey....Do we offer Portland a Fields, or Douglas?..hmm....
Did you read the article?
Dude can't start running until September.
You would make an offer for a guy who has played 82 games over the past 4 years with 2 microfracture injuries and other assorted injuries?
We only need Oden healthy for the playoffs. The centers in the league suck. That is why A broken down Jermaine Oneal got a 2 year deal worth the MLE and he STAYS injured.
JO got a 2 year deal cause he showed that he could play 70 games the season before this one.
Oden has played 82 games over 4 years and won't be able to run until September.
Did you just forget about Azubukie? Can you imagine if the Knicks extended him past his original deal for 2 more years?
This could turn out to be Jerome James Part II.
Did you see how much a player can contribute after not playing for a year or 2 in Michael Jordan? Or one who sits all season in Troy Murphy? Generally, they don't perform.
Portland is non-committal in offering Greg the qualifying offer of 8.8 mil for next season...If Portland doesn't make the offer, should we take a chance offering 4 mil per over two years?...Is he worth the risk, be it small?...Can we talk him into it given the pieces we have?..If somehow he can give you 20-25 mins, 8 boards with some D, hey....Do we offer Portland a Fields, or Douglas?..hmm....
Did you read the article?
Dude can't start running until September.
You would make an offer for a guy who has played 82 games over the past 4 years with 2 microfracture injuries and other assorted injuries?
We only need Oden healthy for the playoffs. The centers in the league suck. That is why A broken down Jermaine Oneal got a 2 year deal worth the MLE and he STAYS injured.
JO got a 2 year deal cause he showed that he could play 70 games the season before this one.
Oden has played 82 games over 4 years and won't be able to run until September.
Did you just forget about Azubukie? Can you imagine if the Knicks extended him past his original deal for 2 more years?
This could turn out to be Jerome James Part II.
Did you see how much a player can contribute after not playing for a year or 2 in Michael Jordan? Or one who sits all season in Troy Murphy? Generally, they don't perform.
I think with Oden you have to look at how young he is. He is younger than Rautins and the same age as Fields. Age seems to impact the success of the recovery from microfracture surgery. I also think any team looking into signing him is going to get as much information as is possible in regards to his expected recovery. If it looks like he is going to be able to play again then I think you have to try and sign him if you are the Knicks. Oden has too much talent to ignore the risk/reward potential in my opinion.
Portland is non-committal in offering Greg the qualifying offer of 8.8 mil for next season...If Portland doesn't make the offer, should we take a chance offering 4 mil per over two years?...Is he worth the risk, be it small?...Can we talk him into it given the pieces we have?..If somehow he can give you 20-25 mins, 8 boards with some D, hey....Do we offer Portland a Fields, or Douglas?..hmm....
Did you read the article?
Dude can't start running until September.
You would make an offer for a guy who has played 82 games over the past 4 years with 2 microfracture injuries and other assorted injuries?
We only need Oden healthy for the playoffs. The centers in the league suck. That is why A broken down Jermaine Oneal got a 2 year deal worth the MLE and he STAYS injured.
JO got a 2 year deal cause he showed that he could play 70 games the season before this one.
Oden has played 82 games over 4 years and won't be able to run until September.
Did you just forget about Azubukie? Can you imagine if the Knicks extended him past his original deal for 2 more years?
This could turn out to be Jerome James Part II.
Did you see how much a player can contribute after not playing for a year or 2 in Michael Jordan? Or one who sits all season in Troy Murphy? Generally, they don't perform.
I think with Oden you have to look at how young he is. He is younger than Rautins and the same age as Fields. Age seems to impact the success of the recovery from microfracture surgery. I also think any team looking into signing him is going to get as much information as is possible in regards to his expected recovery. If it looks like he is going to be able to play again then I think you have to try and sign him if you are the Knicks. Oden has too much talent to ignore the risk/reward potential in my opinion.
Right, which is why you will see a team like the Knicks wait until he starts running and probably way beyond that. Like maybe in Summer 2012, when he proves he can get on court.
With all things being equal, Knicks only have LLE and MLE for next season to spend on FA. They will use neither on a player who will undoubtedly not be able to get on court until probably April 2012.
AnubisADL@ 5/27/2011 11:01 PM
martin wrote:JO got a 2 year deal cause he showed that he could play 70 games the season before this one.
Oden has played 82 games over 4 years and won't be able to run until September.
Did you just forget about Azubukie? Can you imagine if the Knicks extended him past his original deal for 2 more years?
This could turn out to be Jerome James Part II.
Did you see how much a player can contribute after not playing for a year or 2 in Michael Jordan? Or one who sits all season in Troy Murphy? Generally, they don't perform.
Oden has 2 microfracture surgeries and a fractures patella. Oden is a high risk high reward acquisition. Azuibuike is a guard which the NBA is not in short supply of. Oden is a 7 foot center with actual skill. Big difference. A 3 year 15 million dollar deal is really cheap assuming he plays 50% of the time in 3 seasons.
Oden is 23 yrs old not 33 yrs old man.
nyk4ever@ 5/27/2011 11:04 PM
i have no problem bringing oden in here for a look. it all depends on how much money he wants though. obviously his injury history is deplorable, but he's still extremely young and growing into his body. id give him the mle at most.
knickstorrents@ 5/27/2011 11:22 PM
Not worth the risk. He would not be the final piece to solidify a championship roster. It makes sense for the Heat. Not for the Knicks, we have too many holes to justify this kind of gamble.
