Just need a solid team, a solid 6th man, bonifde superstar, good coaching staff..a balance roster.
There's no formula- you need a good team whatever way you can get it. Balance, depth, and a dominant player or group of players that can execute in crunch time. There's no number of players. There's no set position that's most important.
Your talking crazy man.
I suggest you look back over the last few years. Dallas aint winning shit next year.
Lebron, Wade, Bosh, two hobbled players, plus scrubs just made it to the NBA Finals in one year.
You think they arent going to fix their holes?
AnubisADL wrote:Your talking crazy man.I suggest you look back over the last few years. Dallas aint winning shit next year.
Lebron, Wade, Bosh, two hobbled players, plus scrubs just made it to the NBA Finals in one year.
You think they arent going to fix their holes?
They have three rather large holes they need to deal with.
VDesai wrote:There's no formula- you need a good team whatever way you can get it. Balance, depth, and a dominant player or group of players that can execute in crunch time. There's no number of players. There's no set position that's most important.
Seriously.
For as long as I can remember, everyone said you needed two stars. Then Detroit won with no superstars. Now we're back to needing 1? Good teams will find a way to win. These 'formulas' are pointless after a while.
BasketballJones wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Your talking crazy man.I suggest you look back over the last few years. Dallas aint winning shit next year.
Lebron, Wade, Bosh, two hobbled players, plus scrubs just made it to the NBA Finals in one year.
You think they arent going to fix their holes?
They have three rather large holes they need to deal with.
Dude they didnt have a center and their PG position was hit or miss.
A healthy Haslem and Miller means reduced minutes for the Big 3.
They are no different than the Knick in the sense that we have to have unreal games from Amare and Carmelo for us to do damage in the playoffs.
AnubisADL wrote:Your talking crazy man.I suggest you look back over the last few years. Dallas aint winning shit next year.
Lebron, Wade, Bosh, two hobbled players, plus scrubs just made it to the NBA Finals in one year.
You think they arent going to fix their holes?
Where do the Knicks fit in? Because if it's a foregone conclusion the Heat will be in contention and assured to get back there next year and the following yrs why did we make the trades we did?
Why not place hope in the draft and youth and keep the payroll down?
Juice wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Your talking crazy man.I suggest you look back over the last few years. Dallas aint winning shit next year.
Lebron, Wade, Bosh, two hobbled players, plus scrubs just made it to the NBA Finals in one year.
You think they arent going to fix their holes?
Where do the Knicks fit in? Because if it's a foregone conclusion the Heat will be in contention and assured to get back there next year and the following yrs why did we make the trades we did?
Why not place hope in the draft and youth and keep the payroll down?
You never know what can happen in the playoffs. Upsets happen. We just need to be in the position to compete. See Denver 2 years ago versus Lakers.
We need more pieces and we need Melo and Amare to put the team on their back.
AnubisADL wrote:Juice wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Your talking crazy man.I suggest you look back over the last few years. Dallas aint winning shit next year.
Lebron, Wade, Bosh, two hobbled players, plus scrubs just made it to the NBA Finals in one year.
You think they arent going to fix their holes?
Where do the Knicks fit in? Because if it's a foregone conclusion the Heat will be in contention and assured to get back there next year and the following yrs why did we make the trades we did?
Why not place hope in the draft and youth and keep the payroll down?
You never know what can happen in the playoffs. Upsets happen. We just need to be in the position to compete. See Denver 2 years ago versus Lakers.
We need more pieces and we need Melo and Amare to put the team on their back.
All you had to do was stop right there and therefore draw the conclusion Dallas could win again because anything can happen in the playoffs. They know how to win now and they had two players Butler and Beabois(very good players) who didn't play at all during the playoffs. Dallas is in the West too not the East so they don't have to play through the Heat.
Denver lost against the Lakers and never really recovered so if that's the route we're going once again why did we make all those costly sacrifices? According to what you stated a couple posts ago Miami has much stronger backs than we have and that will always be the case going forward
You need grown man strength, tenacity, trust, patience, resolve and quality depth.
Talent is overrated.
BasketballJones wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Your talking crazy man.I suggest you look back over the last few years. Dallas aint winning shit next year.
Lebron, Wade, Bosh, two hobbled players, plus scrubs just made it to the NBA Finals in one year.
You think they arent going to fix their holes?
They have three rather large holes they need to deal with.
that's what she said
The missing piece(s) were a center and a point guard. Hey, that sounds familiar
Juice wrote:All you had to do was stop right there and therefore draw the conclusion Dallas could win again because anything can happen in the playoffs. They know how to win now and they had two players Butler and Beabois(very good players) who didn't play at all during the playoffs. Dallas is in the West too not the East so they don't have to play through the Heat.Denver lost against the Lakers and never really recovered so if that's the route we're going once again why did we make all those costly sacrifices? According to what you stated a couple posts ago Miami has much stronger backs than we have and that will always be the case going forward
I dont see the Knicks being guaranteed contenders year in year out with the current team. However, I think we can get lucky.
Dude we were bad for over a decade and Gallo, Chandler, and Felton weren't taking us to the promise land. I rather get eliminated every year from the playoffs and have some small hope Melo and Amare can blow up in the playoffs than continue down the path we were on.
the Heat model of building a team is a brand new and is only one-season developed. the Mavs model is the tried and true, with a few years of failure leading to the roster's refinement. better question in a few year's time
The Mavs won because they had better OFFENSE!!! The Mavs play great D, but in the end the Heat couldn't keep up scoring wise. The Heat can't play any better defense, it was GREAT Mavs offense that won this title. So I don't wanna hear that you can't win with a good defense and a great offense. You don't have to have the #1 defense to win a championship. This isn't to say that defense isn't important, we all know it is, so don't go there. I'm just saying that you want a team that is capable of getting it done in more than one way. The Heat have never been a very good offensive team. They tended to beat teams with their defense getting steals and scoring easy buckets on the break. With the Mavs they run such good offense, that there weren't a lot of those easy fastbreak buckets that the Heat usually live off of.
The Mavs spread the floor and passed so well that it stretched the limits of the Heats great defensive quickness. The Heat didn't have an answer for the Mavs best player defensively, cuz the Mavs had enough real threats on the floor to give him room to work against single coverage or a late help defender. The Heat offense stinks. If not for the great individual talents of Lebron and Wade their offense wouldn't be that effective. The Mavs were deeper and had more answers for the Heat defense than any team they faced in the East.
nixluva wrote:The Mavs won because they had better OFFENSE!!! The Mavs play great D, but in the end the Heat couldn't keep up scoring wise. The Heat can't play any better defense, it was GREAT Mavs offense that won this title. So I don't wanna hear that you can't win with a good defense and a great offense. You don't have to have the #1 defense to win a championship. This isn't to say that defense isn't important, we all know it is, so don't go there. I'm just saying that you want a team that is capable of getting it done in more than one way. The Heat have never been a very good offensive team. They tended to beat teams with their defense getting steals and scoring easy buckets on the break. With the Mavs they run such good offense, that there weren't a lot of those easy fastbreak buckets that the Heat usually live off of. The Mavs spread the floor and passed so well that it stretched the limits of the Heats great defensive quickness. The Heat didn't have an answer for the Mavs best player defensively, cuz the Mavs had enough real threats on the floor to give him room to work against single coverage or a late help defender. The Heat offense stinks. If not for the great individual talents of Lebron and Wade their offense wouldn't be that effective. The Mavs were deeper and had more answers for the Heat defense than any team they faced in the East.
Come on man. Really. Mavs basically took Lebron out of the game. You need to outscore the other team to win so obviously offense wins.
nixluva wrote:The Mavs won because they had better OFFENSE!!! The Mavs play great D, but in the end the Heat couldn't keep up scoring wise. The Heat can't play any better defense, it was GREAT Mavs offense that won this title. So I don't wanna hear that you can't win with a good defense and a great offense. You don't have to have the #1 defense to win a championship. This isn't to say that defense isn't important, we all know it is, so don't go there. I'm just saying that you want a team that is capable of getting it done in more than one way. The Heat have never been a very good offensive team. They tended to beat teams with their defense getting steals and scoring easy buckets on the break. With the Mavs they run such good offense, that there weren't a lot of those easy fastbreak buckets that the Heat usually live off of. The Mavs spread the floor and passed so well that it stretched the limits of the Heats great defensive quickness. The Heat didn't have an answer for the Mavs best player defensively, cuz the Mavs had enough real threats on the floor to give him room to work against single coverage or a late help defender. The Heat offense stinks. If not for the great individual talents of Lebron and Wade their offense wouldn't be that effective. The Mavs were deeper and had more answers for the Heat defense than any team they faced in the East.
Lebron just said they were good DEFENSIVELY and wouldn't allow him to do what he wanted to do. They deserve credit and they are underrated defensively. He didn't say anything about their Offense at least to start his presser. I'll take what a professional athlete says who played against them versus any jibberish you have to say
nixluva wrote:The Mavs won because they had better OFFENSE!!! The Mavs play great D, but in the end the Heat couldn't keep up scoring wise. The Heat can't play any better defense, it was GREAT Mavs offense that won this title. So I don't wanna hear that you can't win with a good defense and a great offense. You don't have to have the #1 defense to win a championship. This isn't to say that defense isn't important, we all know it is, so don't go there. I'm just saying that you want a team that is capable of getting it done in more than one way. The Heat have never been a very good offensive team. They tended to beat teams with their defense getting steals and scoring easy buckets on the break. With the Mavs they run such good offense, that there weren't a lot of those easy fastbreak buckets that the Heat usually live off of. The Mavs spread the floor and passed so well that it stretched the limits of the Heats great defensive quickness. The Heat didn't have an answer for the Mavs best player defensively, cuz the Mavs had enough real threats on the floor to give him room to work against single coverage or a late help defender. The Heat offense stinks. If not for the great individual talents of Lebron and Wade their offense wouldn't be that effective. The Mavs were deeper and had more answers for the Heat defense than any team they faced in the East.
This is a dumb statement. Completely dumb.
Both teams played very good defense the entire series.
Rick Carlisle really knew how to take LeBron out of the game. He coached a great series on both sides of the ball.
Defense still wins championships, no matter how many times you want to say otherwise to show your support for Mike D'Antoni.
Here I thought champions needed both offense AND defense...
