Knicks · Amare's Back Is Still Hurting (page 1)

eViL @ 6/15/2011 6:13 PM
it's the Dolan curse people. i tried to warn you...

A possible NBA lockout will hurt Amar'e Stoudemire financially but it may be beneficial to his overall well being.

The Knicks All-Star power forward revealed on Wednesday that he continues to experience back pain nearly two months after originally sustaining an injury prior to Game 2 against the Boston Celtics.

"It's still tight," said Stoudemire, who was injured during a pre-game dunk. "It's still pretty tight. It was pretty serious. It's a muscle that takes a while to heal."

Stoudemire played Games 3 and 4 of the Knicks first-round series despite the back injury and says he would haven't taken himself out of the lineup had the team advanced.

"I would have played," Stoudemire says, "But it probably wouldn't have been smart."

Stoudemire's health has been a concern since the Knicks signed him to a $100 million contract last July. His contract is uninsured because of his history of knee and eye issues. Stoudemire is optimistic that he'll be ready for training camp, whenever that begins.

A possible lockout could postpone the start of the NBA regular season. Stoudemire says that he and Carmelo Anthony have already discussed getting together for workouts next month in Los Angeles. In the event of a lockout, players would be barred from training with NBA coaches and trainers, and at NBA facilities.

Stoudemire was at Chelsea Piers on Wednesday to announce his partnership with the Excedrin: What's Your Headache? contest and meet with the contest winner. In his first public comments since Donnie Walsh announced he was stepping down as Knicks president on June 30, Stoudemire said he was "shocked" by the decision.

"But after talking to Mr. Walsh he felt positive about the situation which made me feel more positive about it," Stoudemire said. "I talked to Mr. (James) Dolan and he felt comfortable with the situation. We still have a great organization and a great chance to win a championship.

"I do think Donnie is a basketball mind so he's going to be in the game of basketball for years to come. I have no control over what the front office does, but from the time I've been here, Donnie's been great. I'll continue to talk and deal with him for the rest of my career. I think we'll be okay next season because Donnie will be around consulting."

Stoudemire also praised the Dallas Mavericks for winning the title and for doing a good job of "harassing" LeBron James. In fact, the Mavs success reinforced Stoudemire's belief that the Knicks, a team that hasn't been known for defense for more than 10 years, needs to focus on performing at both ends of the court.

"For us, no question, it's about focusing in on how important defense is," he said. "We have to focus in on that angle and that angle only. Offense is no problem, but defense is where we have to focus in on."

Stoudemire says he wasn't referring to head coach Mike D'Antoni even though D'Antoni has been criticized for not coaching defense, a criticism that dates back to his days with the Suns.

Coincidentally, the Suns top-three rivals in the Western Conference have all won a title within in the last five years, and they all did it with a commitment to defense.

"All the teams we battled with in Phoenix ended up winning the championship except for us," Stoudemire said. "I figured if we stayed together for one year it would have happened. The Lakers, Spurs, Mavs. Each of those teams won a championship. Now we're on the east coast now in New York. It's our turn to win a championship."

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Bonn1997 @ 6/15/2011 6:27 PM
Larry Johnson Part II?
jazz74 @ 6/15/2011 6:28 PM
not good.
eViL @ 6/15/2011 6:29 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Larry Johnson Part II?

my catastrophic prediction is that Amare and Melo will be the new Allan Houston and Marbury. honestly, LJ2 is the best-case scenario

AnubisADL @ 6/15/2011 6:34 PM
It's all Ciara's fault.

nixluva @ 6/15/2011 6:36 PM
If you've ever really tweaked your back you'd know that it can take a long time to heal. Certain types of injuries are slow healing. I just hope that it's not a disc problem which is usually the case with those back spasm issues. What he needs to do is rest and allow his body to fully heal. I'd love to see him use that treatment where you hang upside down to relieve the pressure on your back.

The most important thing in the story is Amar'e talking about Defense. If he and Melo both make a commitment to working harder on D that could really be a big boost to our chances of playing for a title. We know that STAT and Melo talk all the time and if STAT has made up his mind to defend, then i'm sure he's asking Melo to step it up too. That's would be great news.

eViL @ 6/15/2011 6:39 PM
nixluva wrote:If you've ever really tweaked your back you'd know that it can take a long time to heal. Certain types of injuries are slow healing. I just hope that it's not a disc problem which is usually the case with those back spasm issues. What he needs to do is rest and allow his body to fully heal. I'd love to see him use that treatment where you hang upside down to relieve the pressure on your back.

The most important thing in the story is Amar'e talking about Defense. If he and Melo both make a commitment to working harder on D that could really be a big boost to our chances of playing for a title. We know that STAT and Melo talk all the time and if STAT has made up his mind to defend, then i'm sure he's asking Melo to step it up too. That's would be great news.

i've tweaked my back before. one thing i can say for certain, is that it robs you of your explosion. be afraid. be very afraid. dolan's law is in effect. what can go wrong will go catastropically wrong.

Bonn1997 @ 6/15/2011 6:41 PM
nixluva wrote:If you've ever really tweaked your back you'd know that it can take a long time to heal. Certain types of injuries are slow healing. I just hope that it's not a disc problem which is usually the case with those back spasm issues. What he needs to do is rest and allow his body to fully heal. I'd love to see him use that treatment where you hang upside down to relieve the pressure on your back.

The most important thing in the story is Amar'e talking about Defense. If he and Melo both make a commitment to working harder on D that could really be a big boost to our chances of playing for a title. We know that STAT and Melo talk all the time and if STAT has made up his mind to defend, then i'm sure he's asking Melo to step it up too. That's would be great news.


You think that's the most important thing in the article?!
nixluva @ 6/15/2011 6:54 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
nixluva wrote:If you've ever really tweaked your back you'd know that it can take a long time to heal. Certain types of injuries are slow healing. I just hope that it's not a disc problem which is usually the case with those back spasm issues. What he needs to do is rest and allow his body to fully heal. I'd love to see him use that treatment where you hang upside down to relieve the pressure on your back.

The most important thing in the story is Amar'e talking about Defense. If he and Melo both make a commitment to working harder on D that could really be a big boost to our chances of playing for a title. We know that STAT and Melo talk all the time and if STAT has made up his mind to defend, then i'm sure he's asking Melo to step it up too. That's would be great news.


You think that's the most important thing in the article?!

Until you can prove that his back is chronically damaged, then yeah. There was concern about Billups healing process until his last MRI. Let's not go crazy making so much of stuff we know nothing about. Worry when there's something to really be concerned about. I thought he had his back checked at the time of the injury to see if there was any structural damage to his spine. I hope it's not the worst, but i'm not gonna act like it's a proven fact.
loweyecue @ 6/15/2011 6:55 PM
eViL wrote:
nixluva wrote:If you've ever really tweaked your back you'd know that it can take a long time to heal. Certain types of injuries are slow healing. I just hope that it's not a disc problem which is usually the case with those back spasm issues. What he needs to do is rest and allow his body to fully heal. I'd love to see him use that treatment where you hang upside down to relieve the pressure on your back.

The most important thing in the story is Amar'e talking about Defense. If he and Melo both make a commitment to working harder on D that could really be a big boost to our chances of playing for a title. We know that STAT and Melo talk all the time and if STAT has made up his mind to defend, then i'm sure he's asking Melo to step it up too. That's would be great news.

i've tweaked my back before. one thing i can say for certain, is that it robs you of your explosion. be afraid. be very afraid. dolan's law is in effect. what can go wrong will go catastropically wrong.

Nice, we are doing one better than ol' Murphy? But based Jon the " lost decade", I have to agree with you.

MaTT4281 @ 6/15/2011 7:06 PM
I was hoping the back would be better by now, but Amar'e still has 2 and 1/2 months to rest. At least it's not those surgically repaired knees bugging him. Hope STAT's feeling better soon.
joec32033 @ 6/16/2011 5:53 AM
At least it isn't his knee.
martin @ 6/16/2011 9:59 AM
Lots of different kinds of back trouble. Some times it's like Larry Bird, some times it's like Nash, some times it takes 2 months and you never hear about it again.

Hopefully Amare now knows not to do dumb shit like dunking during warmups. He not 21 no more.

eViL @ 6/16/2011 10:23 AM
martin wrote:Lots of different kinds of back trouble. Some times it's like Larry Bird, some times it's like Nash, some times it takes 2 months and you never hear about it again.

Hopefully Amare now knows not to do dumb shit like dunking during warmups. He not 21 no more.

martin, these types of back injuries are freak things. could happen doing showboat dunks during warmups. could happen bending over to tie your shoe. it's bad luck, not dumb shit.

martin @ 6/16/2011 10:27 AM
eViL wrote:
martin wrote:Lots of different kinds of back trouble. Some times it's like Larry Bird, some times it's like Nash, some times it takes 2 months and you never hear about it again.

Hopefully Amare now knows not to do dumb shit like dunking during warmups. He not 21 no more.

martin, these types of back injuries are freak things. could happen doing showboat dunks during warmups. could happen bending over to tie your shoe. it's bad luck, not dumb shit.

i don't disagree with you, but it's like having your PF try to do splits in warmups and calling the groin injury dumb luck.

He was trying to reach for the top of the backboard or some dumb shit like that before he dunked.

matt @ 6/16/2011 10:37 AM
With something like back spasms if it didn't happen during warmups, it would have happened at some point in the game. It was bad luck if anything
eViL @ 6/16/2011 10:43 AM
martin wrote:
eViL wrote:
martin wrote:Lots of different kinds of back trouble. Some times it's like Larry Bird, some times it's like Nash, some times it takes 2 months and you never hear about it again.

Hopefully Amare now knows not to do dumb shit like dunking during warmups. He not 21 no more.

martin, these types of back injuries are freak things. could happen doing showboat dunks during warmups. could happen bending over to tie your shoe. it's bad luck, not dumb shit.

i don't disagree with you, but it's like having your PF try to do splits in warmups and calling the groin injury dumb luck.

He was trying to reach for the top of the backboard or some dumb shit like that before he dunked.

yeah, i know. it is extra frustrating that it happened like that. there really is no benefit to trying those dunks during warmups. thing is, i've dealt with back spasms a lot. i've probably had about 4 bouts with spasms since 2007. the first time, hilariously, it was because i was waiting for next in a bball game and i was on another court doing this stupid thing where i'd jump as high as i could, but then hang as long as i could before completing a layup. really no purpose to it. i was just bored and waiting. it hit me right there. i got hurt on the landing. nothing particularly jarring about the motion. just landed funny i guess.

since then, i've gotten it three times. two during basketball in the course of a game. once, i was reaching for the shampoo in the shower. it's been less prevalent since i've focused on core strength. i'm concerned that Amare will be haunted by these spasms now. he had his first at age 28. coincidentally, so did i. of course, all i could rely on was online research and self-treatment, meanwhile, he has the knicks training staff working on him. however, i'm not sure that's an advantage. haha!

martin @ 6/16/2011 10:50 AM
eViL wrote:
martin wrote:
eViL wrote:
martin wrote:Lots of different kinds of back trouble. Some times it's like Larry Bird, some times it's like Nash, some times it takes 2 months and you never hear about it again.

Hopefully Amare now knows not to do dumb shit like dunking during warmups. He not 21 no more.

martin, these types of back injuries are freak things. could happen doing showboat dunks during warmups. could happen bending over to tie your shoe. it's bad luck, not dumb shit.

i don't disagree with you, but it's like having your PF try to do splits in warmups and calling the groin injury dumb luck.

He was trying to reach for the top of the backboard or some dumb shit like that before he dunked.

yeah, i know. it is extra frustrating that it happened like that. there really is no benefit to trying those dunks during warmups. thing is, i've dealt with back spasms a lot. i've probably had about 4 bouts with spasms since 2007. the first time, hilariously, it was because i was waiting for next in a bball game and i was on another court doing this stupid thing where i'd jump as high as i could, but then hang as long as i could before completing a layup. really no purpose to it. i was just bored and waiting. it hit me right there. i got hurt on the landing. nothing particularly jarring about the motion. just landed funny i guess.

since then, i've gotten it three times. two during basketball in the course of a game. once, i was reaching for the shampoo in the shower. it's been less prevalent since i've focused on core strength. i'm concerned that Amare will be haunted by these spasms now. he had his first at age 28. coincidentally, so did i. of course, all i could rely on was online research and self-treatment, meanwhile, he has the knicks training staff working on him. however, i'm not sure that's an advantage. haha!

much less boring if you just made up some story about how you and cakes where doing some new karma sutra action and you hurt the back then, at least we could respect it

knicks1248 @ 6/16/2011 11:03 AM
I wouldn't worry about Amare's back, he'll have more then enough time to heal..probably til december
Bonn1997 @ 6/16/2011 12:18 PM
knicks1248 wrote:I wouldn't worry about Amare's back, he'll have more then enough time to heal..probably til december

Depends on the nature of the injury. A decade wouldn't be enough time for some back injuries.
eViL @ 6/16/2011 12:19 PM
martin wrote:much less boring if you just made up some story about how you and cakes where doing some new karma sutra action and you hurt the back then, at least we could respect it

hahahahaha...

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