All of these trades that went down yesterday seem like transactions that the Knicks could have gotten in on and involved players that we've either been trying to get forever or players that we could really use in the case of Harper and Tyler. We're left with quite a few holes to fill on this roster of ours. We'll see if TD and or Fields end up getting moved for role players that will put us on the next level.
Minnesota receives: Brad Miller, No. 23 pick (Nikola Mirotic), future first-round pick
Houston receives: Jonny Flynn, No. 20 pick (Donatas Motiejunas), No. 38 pick (Chandler Parsons) - reacquisition
Portland receives: Raymond Felton, No. 57 pick (Tanguy Ngombo)
Denver receives: Andre Miller, No. 26 pick (Jordan Hamilton), future second-round pick
Dallas receives: Rudy Fernandez, 2007 No. 30 pick (Petteri Koponen)
Cleveland receives: Two future second-round picks
Orlando receives: No. 32 pick (Justin Harper)
Golden State receives: No. 39 pick (Jeremy Tyler)
Charlotte receives: Cash considerations
Golden State buying from Charlotte probably had the following issues:
1. MJ does not want to deal with NY
2. Dolan had a max 1 million purchase (JJ was drafted 44 last year and cost the knicks 1 million I believe)
-39th pick probably cost more that 1 million the budget set aside by Dolan
As for the rest, I didn't care much being Knicks.
Bonn1997 wrote:Dolan's max was $1 mil?
I'm not a Dolan fan - just the opposite. But Dolan has never been a cheap owner. In fact, he paid $3m to get Douglas.
Having a guy like Harper that can score from anywhere and handle the rock to sub in for STAT and Melo would have been sweet. Oh well.
Tyler fell. This dude is Dleague bound and eats a roster spot. Most likley two years away from getting minutes.
I know some of us liked him, but the reality is his body is not NBA ready, he has not played at a high level anywhere, and the only thing we read is he tells a good story about his coach talking to him. He is a project and we not doing projects.
The other trades involved draft picks. Ours are gone.!
Nalod wrote:Tyler fell. This dude is Dleague bound and eats a roster spot. Most likley two years away from getting minutes.I know some of us liked him, but the reality is his body is not NBA ready, he has not played at a high level anywhere, and the only thing we read is he tells a good story about his coach talking to him. He is a project and we not doing projects.
The other trades involved draft picks. Ours are gone.!
I don't think Shumpert is a finished product and there are a lot of questions about his shot selection and decision making. If he is here as the point of the future I think he is a project.
Nalod wrote:Tyler fell. This dude is Dleague bound and eats a roster spot. Most likley two years away from getting minutes.I know some of us liked him, but the reality is his body is not NBA ready, he has not played at a high level anywhere, and the only thing we read is he tells a good story about his coach talking to him. He is a project and we not doing projects.
The other trades involved draft picks. Ours are gone.!
His body is NBA ready. He is a big kid. He's not one of these rail thin bigs, he has an NBA body now.
Killa4luv wrote:Nalod wrote:Tyler fell. This dude is Dleague bound and eats a roster spot. Most likley two years away from getting minutes.I know some of us liked him, but the reality is his body is not NBA ready, he has not played at a high level anywhere, and the only thing we read is he tells a good story about his coach talking to him. He is a project and we not doing projects.
The other trades involved draft picks. Ours are gone.!
His body is NBA ready. He is a big kid. He's not one of these rail thin bigs, he has an NBA body now.
he may have an NBA sized body, but it's hiding underneath a layer of fat.
martin wrote:Killa4luv wrote:Nalod wrote:Tyler fell. This dude is Dleague bound and eats a roster spot. Most likley two years away from getting minutes.I know some of us liked him, but the reality is his body is not NBA ready, he has not played at a high level anywhere, and the only thing we read is he tells a good story about his coach talking to him. He is a project and we not doing projects.
The other trades involved draft picks. Ours are gone.!
His body is NBA ready. He is a big kid. He's not one of these rail thin bigs, he has an NBA body now.
he may have an NBA sized body, but it's hiding underneath a layer of fat.
OH sure hes gotta shed some pounds, but imo that is preferable to being too small. The size helps you in the game. Although stamina is shortened. Look at Shaq, Marc Gasol, our guy Josh Harrelson, Zach Randolph, Melo, et al. Those extra pounds become an asset. As long as there aren't too too many of them.
Killa4luv wrote:Nalod wrote:Tyler fell. This dude is Dleague bound and eats a roster spot. Most likley two years away from getting minutes.I know some of us liked him, but the reality is his body is not NBA ready, he has not played at a high level anywhere, and the only thing we read is he tells a good story about his coach talking to him. He is a project and we not doing projects.
The other trades involved draft picks. Ours are gone.!
His body is NBA ready. He is a big kid. He's not one of these rail thin bigs, he has an NBA body now.
19 years old bigs don't have a good success rate if not in shape and have "man strength" in their legs. Its not that he is too skinny, but playing in Japan don't get you ready.
Is he better than our Jerome Jordan? Was he willing to go to europe?
He fell way past us at 17 all the way to almost out of the draft. 45th pick does not exactly install fear that we missed a golden opportunity.
He needs to lose weight? Think of those words when it pertains to being 19 and wanting to be in the NBA. He is not "NBA READY", that is what we need at the moment.
Do I think he is worthy of being a project at a Million dollar cost? Sure, its not my money. If he eats up a roster spot (Dleaguers do this) and we have Jerome Jordan just getting over a near death experience I assume he is Dleague bound. We are not ready to give up on Rautins, so I can see we don't have the spots. Seems not to many picks got sold. I like the ideas of drafting EUros in the second round but if they get real good that second round money looks real bad and they stay.
Regarding Tyler, GOtta lose weight remind you of anyone? Ok, if he is more Tyson Chandler then it took 10 years for that kid to pan out. He has had injuries and even OK rejected a trade last year because he failed a physical. Lots of young bigs wash out over injury cuz they were not "Ready".
Really? Crying over Flynn when we might get Chris Paul? Crying over Tyler when he for all intents and purposes may do nothing in this league. Please. Give me the moves we have made any day over pining over a injured lottery bust and some kid who dropped out of high school.
Golden State receives: No. 39 pick (Jeremy Tyler)
Charlotte receives: Cash considerations
Only this one strikes me as doable for the Knicks since it only involved money. Would I have done it? Yeah, but how much money was Dolan willing to spend, especially facing a lockout where most franchise will lose lots of money? We make money look like its nothing to this franchise, and it may be in most cases, maybe not this one. Tyler cost 2 millions. Harrellson cost us 750,000.
Probably it had nothing to do with money. It probably was difficulty of striking a deal and not really having Tyler in their radar. We were looking for role players that don't take too much in helping out, and that may not be the case with him.
Still, we walked away with two players. I wanted three but if you think about it, Iman may impact our backup PG as well as our SG spot. And its possible the Knicks have a few signings in mind. Would really be nice to pick a player like we did with Mozgov...
Said the same thing Deandre Jordan. Walsh didnt want to spend then either. Rather sign guys like Roberson.
CENTERS dont come on the market unless they washed up. But of course everyone will take a less to play in NY. 
Knicksfan wrote:AnubisADL wrote:martin wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Said the same thing Deandre Jordan. Walsh didnt want to spend then either. Rather sign guys like Roberson. Bigs dont come on the market unless they washed up. But of course everyone will take a less to play in NY.
Booz, Amare, Bosh.
Those are centers?
They are
AnubisADL wrote:Bigs
They are bigs but they either had major injury risks (Boozer and Amare) or vaginas (Bosh).
JohnWallace44 wrote:All of these trades that went down yesterday seem like transactions that the Knicks could have gotten in on and involved players that we've either been trying to get forever or players that we could really use in the case of Harper and Tyler. We're left with quite a few holes to fill on this roster of ours. We'll see if TD and or Fields end up getting moved for role players that will put us on the next level.
Minnesota receives: Brad Miller, No. 23 pick (Nikola Mirotic), future first-round pick
Houston receives: Jonny Flynn, No. 20 pick (Donatas Motiejunas), No. 38 pick (Chandler Parsons) - reacquisition
Portland receives: Raymond Felton, No. 57 pick (Tanguy Ngombo)
Denver receives: Andre Miller, No. 26 pick (Jordan Hamilton), future second-round pick
Dallas receives: Rudy Fernandez, 2007 No. 30 pick (Petteri Koponen)
Cleveland receives: Two future second-round picks
Orlando receives: No. 32 pick (Justin Harper)
Golden State receives: No. 39 pick (Jeremy Tyler)
Charlotte receives: Cash considerations
I would take Carmelo Anthony over all four of those "players" combined. Thanks.
loweyecue wrote:JohnWallace44 wrote:All of these trades that went down yesterday seem like transactions that the Knicks could have gotten in on and involved players that we've either been trying to get forever or players that we could really use in the case of Harper and Tyler. We're left with quite a few holes to fill on this roster of ours. We'll see if TD and or Fields end up getting moved for role players that will put us on the next level.
Minnesota receives: Brad Miller, No. 23 pick (Nikola Mirotic), future first-round pick
Houston receives: Jonny Flynn, No. 20 pick (Donatas Motiejunas), No. 38 pick (Chandler Parsons) - reacquisition
Portland receives: Raymond Felton, No. 57 pick (Tanguy Ngombo)
Denver receives: Andre Miller, No. 26 pick (Jordan Hamilton), future second-round pick
Dallas receives: Rudy Fernandez, 2007 No. 30 pick (Petteri Koponen)
Cleveland receives: Two future second-round picks
Orlando receives: No. 32 pick (Justin Harper)
Golden State receives: No. 39 pick (Jeremy Tyler)
Charlotte receives: Cash considerations
I would take Carmelo Anthony over all four of those "players" combined. Thanks.
For real. Nothing like people over valuing those who have accomplished nothing. Fernandez and Tyler have lead their teams to a Western Conference Final right?
