NYKBocker wrote:LandarryFieldsForever wrote:martin wrote:Childs2Dudley wrote:This board is going mad....really..it is...The day when Anubis is the only that agrees with me (and he is a former Isiah fan) is the day I need to question what everyone else is thinking.
which C do you propose the Knicks pursue? Who plays defense behind Amare and Melo?
Dalembert.
You have to be kidding. Dalembert just oozes lazy.
That's funny, because that was a label Tyson Chandler used to carry around before last season.
NYKBocker wrote:LandarryFieldsForever wrote:martin wrote:Childs2Dudley wrote:This board is going mad....really..it is...The day when Anubis is the only that agrees with me (and he is a former Isiah fan) is the day I need to question what everyone else is thinking.
which C do you propose the Knicks pursue? Who plays defense behind Amare and Melo?
Dalembert.
You have to be kidding. Dalembert just oozes lazy.
And so does Tyson at times. Let's not forget what a flameout this guy was in Charlotte.
crzymdups wrote:BigSm00th wrote:berger on ESPN radio right now
can't listen at work. can you report the highlights?
first of all
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Source close to Tyson Chandler talks just told ESPN.com: "It's 98 percent sure that Tyson is going to wind up with the Knicks."
- knicks see chandler as defensive back bone. fills huge needs for rebounding and shotblocking.
- would use amnesty on billups; not S&T as previously discussed.
- likely puts them out of the paul race, but "there's always a way."
- berger doesn't think its out of the question knicks deal STAT and fields to the hornets for paul if other offers cool off
BigSm00th wrote:crzymdups wrote:BigSm00th wrote:berger on ESPN radio right now
can't listen at work. can you report the highlights?
first of all
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Source close to Tyson Chandler talks just told ESPN.com: "It's 98 percent sure that Tyson is going to wind up with the Knicks."
- knicks see chandler as defensive back bone. fills huge needs for rebounding and shotblocking.
- would use amnesty on billups; not S&T as previously discussed.
- likely puts them out of the paul race, but "there's always a way."
Childs2Dudley wrote:Are you people serious? Jumping for joy for this awful move?$14 million a year for Tyson fucking Chandler? That is god-awful.
We are going to waste our amnesty on a guy in the final year of his contract who can still contribute just for the right to overpay an injury prone center? This is Isiah-esque. I think he is back. Unofficially, Isiah is back and destroying the team again.
$14 million a year for Chandler? Oh dear Lord. Donnie is turning over in his wheelchair.
You're so predicatable. I knew this would be your reaction. LOL.
Would have been nice to just have the cap space to sign him this offseason and have the following team
Felton-Fields-Gallo-Amare-Chandler with a bench of Douglas, Iman, AR, Moz etc.
I don't sign a guy for 60MM who played well in a contract year. He played 45, 51 games the season prior to last. He averaged 1.1blks a game and has zero offensive game to speak of. We obviously need a guy like him and they don't grow on trees, but too risky
Childs2Dudley wrote:NYKBocker wrote:LandarryFieldsForever wrote:martin wrote:Childs2Dudley wrote:This board is going mad....really..it is...The day when Anubis is the only that agrees with me (and he is a former Isiah fan) is the day I need to question what everyone else is thinking.
which C do you propose the Knicks pursue? Who plays defense behind Amare and Melo?
Dalembert.
You have to be kidding. Dalembert just oozes lazy.
That's funny, because that was a label Tyson Chandler used to carry around before last season.
didn't discourage Dallas, who just won a chip with him.
My issue with Chandler is he has no offense outside of dunks and put backs. When your pay a guy 15 million a year I expect a little more.
I'd prefer Deandre Jordan because of age but we are trying to win now and Deandre Jordan needs a few years of seasoning.
MS wrote:Would have been nice to just have the cap space to sign him this offseason and have the following teamFelton-Fields-Gallo-Amare-Chandler with a bench of Douglas, Iman, AR, Moz etc.
I don't sign a guy for 60MM who played well in a contract year. He played 45, 51 games the season prior to last. He averaged 1.1blks a game and has zero offensive game to speak of. We obviously need a guy like him and they don't grow on trees, but too risky
79, 73, 79, 80 the four seasons before that.
"zero offensive game" GREAT -- we have STAT & MELO. we need defense and rebounding, he gives us both and allows STAT & MELO to play their natural positions.
for me, this puts the Knicks into immediate contention in the East. And all of the core players are 29 and below, so that means the window is like 4-5 years of deep playoffs.
And it also matches Miami at their weak point.
MS wrote:Would have been nice to just have the cap space to sign him this offseason and have the following teamFelton-Fields-Gallo-Amare-Chandler with a bench of Douglas, Iman, AR, Moz etc.
I don't sign a guy for 60MM who played well in a contract year. He played 45, 51 games the season prior to last. He averaged 1.1blks a game and has zero offensive game to speak of. We obviously need a guy like him and they don't grow on trees, but too risky
That team is a 5 or 6 seed with no hope of advancing past the 2nd round.
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Source close to Tyson Chandler talks just told http://ESPN.com: "It's 98 percent sure that Tyson is going to wind up with the Knicks."
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Knicks have privately assured people that if they trade Billups instead of using amnesty on him, he's destined for a "good team." Dallas?
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Cant we trade billups and get some value? do we HAVE to amnesty him?
sounding like Billups might be traded to Dallas to allow Dallas to keep 2012 cap room in place.
Dallas would let Barea go and have Kidd and Billups running the point.
martin wrote:for me, this puts the Knicks into immediate contention in the East. And all of the core players are 29 and below, so that means the window is like 4-5 years of deep playoffs.And it also matches Miami at their weak point.
Exactly. Knicks are all in right now. A guy like Chandler solidifies the paint. Yes, this is overpaying him...but not by much. A center who can be the defensive anchor of a champion is a rare commodity. As for offense, that';s why we have STAT and Melo.
Now all we need is to get a capable PG in here, of which there are plenty.
i wonder how much Billups is helping the situation in a move back to DEN
Trade billups to dallas? can we get jason terry outta that?
NYY1NYK2 wrote:Trade billups to dallas? can we get jason terry outta that?
We are getting Chandler and keeping our amnesty.
I am trying to do the numbers but I think this scenario works:
Billups, Turiaf for Andre Miller.
Amnesty Balkman.
Knicks maybe can offer Tyson $13-14M starting salary.
It seems to me that Tyson really has one serious injury concern. His Big toe.
Chandler had surgery on his left toe shortly after the 2006-07 season and injured it again in April 2008 in New Orleans' regular-season finale at Dallas. He then reinjured it during the Hornets' second-round series against San Antonio, complaining of "turf toe" after he bent the toe backwards by stepping on Ime Udoka's foot. Chandler was named as a Team USA alternate in July and invited to a pre-Olympic training camp but had to pull out because of the ongoing toe trouble.
After examining Chandler's left big toe, Dr. Carlan Yates, Oklahoma City's team physician, determined that the risk of reinjury was too great to give Chandler a clean bill of health. He therefore advised the Thunder to rescind Tuesday's trade that landed them Chandler for Joe Smith, Chris Wilcox and the rights to DeVon Hardin."This is absolutely crazy," Chandler said in a telephone conversation Wednesday night. "I'm super shocked. This is nuts."
Chandler, 26, was baffled by Yates' ruling in part because Yates performed surgery on Chandler's big left toe in April of 2007 when the Hornets were playing in Oklahoma City. Chandler played 79 games the following season and while he's missed 19 games this season, none has been because of his toe.
"He said he doesn't know how long I'll last," Chandler said in reference to Yates. "He told me, 'I have no doubt you can play on it. I'm just saying it could take a turn for the worse if you come down on somebody's foot or hyperextend it or something.'"
Chandler was bothered by the toe in last season's playoffs and withdrew from Team USA over the summer.
While Chandler, who said he feels no pain in the toe, was disturbed by the Thunder's decision,
He really doesn't seem to have any other serious health issues. My guess is that as time passed his toe could have strengthened. He did play 74 games and was an impact player in the playoffs. My guess is that the guy is fine. There's risk with any player really. There's only the illusion of good health!!! Any player at any time can have a serious injury in a contact sport. I think it's a good risk to take. High risk. HIGH REWARD!
