Knicks · Breaking News: Davis commits to Knicks (page 5)

y2zipper wrote:

technomaster wrote:What difference does it matter if he signs for the 1.4m veteran's minimum or the 2.5m exception? Ultimately the Cavs are responsible for the remainder, isn't that correct?

The difference is that New York could still use the 2.5 million dollar exception and sign Davis for the minimum because minimum salaries don't count against the cap.

Markji wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Markji wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:

loweyecue wrote:The only thing we need now is for Ill Will to come back from China and take the 2.5 Mil - A tru;y versatile player we can always call our own who deserves to be part of something good here. Though he will probably go somewhere else for more money.

I thought I read we had to give Baron our 2.5 mill? Not sure if it was a bidding process and we had to outbid other teams? Originally I thought we could sign him for the vets min too.

Yeah. I don't understand why we had to give him the $2.5 mil exception when Cleveland was picking up his salary anyways and whatever we pay gets deducted from what Cleveland pays. I'm very happy we signed Baron but why not for just the vet min?

apparently since he cleared the bid process, that's actually not true. baron gets to double dip.

I'm glad we signed Bdiddy but it seems a bit greedy for him to take the $2.5 mil instead of the $1.4 veteran's minimum since he already is getting $13.95 Mil from Cleveland. The team could have used the Room Exception of $2.5 mil to possibly land a better player than they could get for just the Vet min which could lead to a better chance of winning a Championship.

bottom line: we were bidding with Miami and the Lakers. just get the deal done. there aren't too many impact guys left for $2.5M. we just got potentially the best impact player on the market.

Erniecat wrote:^ sorry if this has been answered in this thread, but i can't find the exact answer, though i have seen related comments. thanks.

He'll be restricted.

gunsnewing wrote:So we will no longer have the 2.5mil room exception right? only vet min. Im ok w/that

Correct. Assuming we sign Davis for $2.5 million, we can now only sign guys for the vets minimum ($1.4 million).

So am I to understand that Davis makes more money by signing for $2.5 million than if he signed with us for $1.4 million? I thought it did not matter because he'd be making the same overall salary anyway, and it was just a matter of how much the Cavs would pay and how much the Knicks would kick in. Just when I thought I had this amnesty thing figured out ...

martin wrote:This is from NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/sports...

The best part of this article is that he "chose" us over other suitors, we aint the lil bee-yatches of the league anymore... We Are Macks!!!

ActionJackson wrote:

martin wrote:This is from NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/sports...

The best part of this article is that he "chose" us over other suitors, we aint the lil bee-yatches of the league anymore... We Are Macks!!!

Yeah, and the other suitors were the Lakers and the Heat.

Hard to believe how far we have come in such a short time.

Erniecat wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:So we will no longer have the 2.5mil room exception right? only vet min. Im ok w/that

Correct. Assuming we sign Davis for $2.5 million, we can now only sign guys for the vets minimum ($1.4 million).

So am I to understand that Davis makes more money by signing for $2.5 million than if he signed with us for $1.4 million? I thought it did not matter because he'd be making the same overall salary anyway, and it was just a matter of how much the Cavs would pay and how much the Knicks would kick in. Just when I thought I had this amnesty thing figured out ...

Yea doesn't make sense. This is really bugging me now

Play the games and see what happens.

Good pick up!

Not as a savior, but as a role player!

This is an improvement but there are games to play, and they have a lot of things to work out before we are contending.

I'd like to see K-Mart as back up.
Im not worried about these guys being a problem, they are vets and lots of strong personalities to be accountable to.

Bring in Arenas, bring in JR smith, and even Marbury could not mess with this team. The Alpha's are Chandler and Stat and then to a lessor degree the "Smiley One".......

sealy wrote:Too bad we don't have him signed for next yr, as well. I think he does well and the roster should could use some continuity.

Nash.

crzymdups wrote:

Markji wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Markji wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:

loweyecue wrote:The only thing we need now is for Ill Will to come back from China and take the 2.5 Mil - A tru;y versatile player we can always call our own who deserves to be part of something good here. Though he will probably go somewhere else for more money.

I thought I read we had to give Baron our 2.5 mill? Not sure if it was a bidding process and we had to outbid other teams? Originally I thought we could sign him for the vets min too.

Yeah. I don't understand why we had to give him the $2.5 mil exception when Cleveland was picking up his salary anyways and whatever we pay gets deducted from what Cleveland pays. I'm very happy we signed Baron but why not for just the vet min?

apparently since he cleared the bid process, that's actually not true. baron gets to double dip.

I'm glad we signed Bdiddy but it seems a bit greedy for him to take the $2.5 mil instead of the $1.4 veteran's minimum since he already is getting $13.95 Mil from Cleveland. The team could have used the Room Exception of $2.5 mil to possibly land a better player than they could get for just the Vet min which could lead to a better chance of winning a Championship.

bottom line: we were bidding with Miami and the Lakers. just get the deal done. there aren't too many impact guys left for $2.5M. we just got potentially the best impact player on the market.

Salaries for 2011-2012 Season

LeBron = $16 Mil
Bosh = $16 Mil
Wade = $15.5 Mil

Baron Davis = $13.95 (Cleveland) + $2.5 (Knicks) = $16.45 Mil = more than LeBron, Bosh, or Wade.

I'll say it again - I am SUPER - Glad he signed with us. But he also could have signed and taken only $1.4 mil for a total salary of $15.35 Mil and given us a shot at signing a player like K-Mart using the $2.5 Mil room exception. That is my point. Not complaining at all that he will be a Knick. Very happy.

you offer the most you can get in that situation and ask questions later because if you lost him to a team like the lakers or god forbid the heat because you're nickle and diming over less than a million, that would have been DISASTEROUS...

gunsnewing wrote:I don't think the $2.5mil is official could be another media misunderstanding. We should find out tomorrow. It doesn't make since that we'd offer him more than $1.4mil. Then again didn't Billups get more from the Clips?

B Davis cleared Amnesty - no team bid on him, so he is able to chose whichever team he wants to sign with, at whatever negotiated price they agree upon.

FistOfOakley wrote:seriously getting baron davis for 2.5m is a BARGAIN. our biggest need by a huge mile was an abled body pg and he was the best one available by a HUGE mile...
you offer the most you can get in that situation and ask questions later because if you lost him to a team like the lakers or god forbid the heat because you're nickle and diming over less than a million, that would have been DISASTEROUS...

But that's not the point of the last few postings.

Markji wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Markji wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Markji wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:

loweyecue wrote:The only thing we need now is for Ill Will to come back from China and take the 2.5 Mil - A tru;y versatile player we can always call our own who deserves to be part of something good here. Though he will probably go somewhere else for more money.

I thought I read we had to give Baron our 2.5 mill? Not sure if it was a bidding process and we had to outbid other teams? Originally I thought we could sign him for the vets min too.

Yeah. I don't understand why we had to give him the $2.5 mil exception when Cleveland was picking up his salary anyways and whatever we pay gets deducted from what Cleveland pays. I'm very happy we signed Baron but why not for just the vet min?

apparently since he cleared the bid process, that's actually not true. baron gets to double dip.

I'm glad we signed Bdiddy but it seems a bit greedy for him to take the $2.5 mil instead of the $1.4 veteran's minimum since he already is getting $13.95 Mil from Cleveland. The team could have used the Room Exception of $2.5 mil to possibly land a better player than they could get for just the Vet min which could lead to a better chance of winning a Championship.

bottom line: we were bidding with Miami and the Lakers. just get the deal done. there aren't too many impact guys left for $2.5M. we just got potentially the best impact player on the market.

I agree with that statement except for 1 point - the bottom line could have been $1.4. The 3 Amigos all took less money to get a better chance at winning. Bdiddy could have also.

Salaries for 2011-2012 Season

LeBron = $16 Mil
Bosh = $16 Mil
Wade = $15.5 Mil

Baron Davis = $13.95 (Cleveland) + $2.5 (Knicks) = $16.45 Mil = more than LeBron, Bosh, or Wade.

I'll say it again - I am SUPER - Glad he signed with us. But he also could have signed and taken only $1.4 mil for a total salary of $15.35 Mil and given us a shot at signing a player like K-Mart using the $2.5 Mil room exception. That is my point. Not complaining at all that he will be a Knick. Very happy.

He is still only getting $13.95 Mil. The way the amnesty works is that we pay $2.5 of the $13.95 he is owed. I agree though, we should have gotten him for the veterans min.

seg17 wrote:

Markji wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Markji wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Markji wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:

loweyecue wrote:The only thing we need now is for Ill Will to come back from China and take the 2.5 Mil - A tru;y versatile player we can always call our own who deserves to be part of something good here. Though he will probably go somewhere else for more money.

I thought I read we had to give Baron our 2.5 mill? Not sure if it was a bidding process and we had to outbid other teams? Originally I thought we could sign him for the vets min too.

Yeah. I don't understand why we had to give him the $2.5 mil exception when Cleveland was picking up his salary anyways and whatever we pay gets deducted from what Cleveland pays. I'm very happy we signed Baron but why not for just the vet min?

apparently since he cleared the bid process, that's actually not true. baron gets to double dip.

I'm glad we signed Bdiddy but it seems a bit greedy for him to take the $2.5 mil instead of the $1.4 veteran's minimum since he already is getting $13.95 Mil from Cleveland. The team could have used the Room Exception of $2.5 mil to possibly land a better player than they could get for just the Vet min which could lead to a better chance of winning a Championship.

bottom line: we were bidding with Miami and the Lakers. just get the deal done. there aren't too many impact guys left for $2.5M. we just got potentially the best impact player on the market.

I agree with that statement except for 1 point - the bottom line could have been $1.4. The 3 Amigos all took less money to get a better chance at winning. Bdiddy could have also.

Salaries for 2011-2012 Season

LeBron = $16 Mil
Bosh = $16 Mil
Wade = $15.5 Mil

Baron Davis = $13.95 (Cleveland) + $2.5 (Knicks) = $16.45 Mil = more than LeBron, Bosh, or Wade.

I'll say it again - I am SUPER - Glad he signed with us. But he also could have signed and taken only $1.4 mil for a total salary of $15.35 Mil and given us a shot at signing a player like K-Mart using the $2.5 Mil room exception. That is my point. Not complaining at all that he will be a Knick. Very happy.

He is still only getting $13.95 Mil. The way the amnesty works is that we pay $2.5 of the $13.95 he is owed. I agree though, we should have gotten him for the veterans min.

He was amnestied but nobody claimed him. That means that he'll be getting his full salary from Cleveland in addition to what we're paying him. As for everyone complaining about the veteran's minimum vs the LLE, who cares? There's no one available who would've signed for the LLE that improves our team more than Baron Davis. No one.