Knicks · GAME THREAD: Brooms, Helicopters & Teardrops...Knicks New "D" will get the stops!!! (page 17)

crzymdups @ 12/29/2011 12:55 AM
Knicksfan wrote:Blown out by the Curry-less Warriors. Talk about killing the hype and falling below earth. This team is really a mess. No sugarcoating it. The PG situation is alarming. The lack of focus on defense is terrible. This isn't even a Mike D team. There is no crisp ball movement. This is bring the ball down, pass it and shoot it.

Offense is terrible. Defense has ADD. MESS.

well, talk about over-reacting

islesfan @ 12/29/2011 12:55 AM
Mark Jackson > Mike D'Antoni
FoeDiddy @ 12/29/2011 12:55 AM
Toney douglas doesn't even look like he belongs in the league tonite
blkexec @ 12/29/2011 12:56 AM
NYKBocker wrote:Jerome Jordan has nice feet.

Instead of Balkman, he should've put in JJ during Chandlers 4th foul. This would've been a different game.

The game changed when put in Balkman, and had Amari playing Center....When Golden ST. had a big lineup in, with Monte Ellis catching fire.

What a coach.....

SupremeCommander @ 12/29/2011 12:56 AM
islesfan wrote:Mark Jackson > Mike D'Antoni

why can't we just trade coaches. Pringles is perfect for the Warriors and Jackson seems destined for the Knicks

crzymdups @ 12/29/2011 12:56 AM
FoeDiddy wrote:Toney douglas doesn't even look like he belongs in the league tonite

so... the same as every other night? he's always looked like this. sometimes he hits a few threes. otherwise, everything else is the same. toney is not a pg.

NYKBocker @ 12/29/2011 12:57 AM
Nice pass from Lin off a penetration to Jerome!
CrushAlot @ 12/29/2011 12:57 AM
blkexec wrote:Wow.....when you have a total collapse, you have to point to the coaching staff and their lack of in game strategies.

NOW YOU PUT IN JJ? When we are down 20? Great move Coach...LMAO

I agree. However, there will be a million reasons why this isn't the coach's fault in anyway. Knicks have the teflon coach. He needs a hof point guard that can free lance an offense and communicate to make up for his deficits in all areas except picking out his suit.
crzymdups @ 12/29/2011 12:57 AM
islesfan wrote:Mark Jackson > Mike D'Antoni

well, that's just really insightful trolling.

SupremeCommander @ 12/29/2011 12:58 AM
FoeDiddy wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:Also stop downplaying the competition. Warriors just beat the Bulls as well.

They might be good, but they aren't defensive dynamos

Our Stars were off from the field and line..Add to that none of our guards can penetrate at all. It happens sometimes. 2nd game of season.

You're right, I should just accept the fact the Knicks failed to take advantage of a team lacking size and their best player

FoeDiddy @ 12/29/2011 12:59 AM
crzymdups wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:Toney douglas doesn't even look like he belongs in the league tonite

so... the same as every other night? he's always looked like this. sometimes he hits a few threes. otherwise, everything else is the same. toney is not a pg.

I agree but at least some games you're like okay he scored 20 or he play'd decent defense..that's why he is in the league but tonight...Just plain horrendous on all cylinders. I can see him being a Mardy Collins type in terms of once he breaks ties with the Knicks he could be out the league.

CrushAlot @ 12/29/2011 12:59 AM
islesfan wrote:Mark Jackson > Mike D'Antoni

+1
ScoreBot @ 12/29/2011 1:00 AM
Final  
GSW 92 NYK 78
NYKBocker @ 12/29/2011 1:01 AM
ScoreBot wrote:
Final  
GSW 92 NYK 78

Fuck you ScoreBot!

blkexec @ 12/29/2011 1:01 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
blkexec wrote:Wow.....when you have a total collapse, you have to point to the coaching staff and their lack of in game strategies.

NOW YOU PUT IN JJ? When we are down 20? Great move Coach...LMAO

I agree. However, there will be a million reasons why this isn't the coach's fault in anyway. Knicks have the teflon coach. He needs a hof point guard that can free lance an offense and communicate to make up for his deficits in all areas except picking out his suit.

Sure....get a HOF pg to cover up the real problems? please....A solid coach can turn a bunch of roll players into winners.

It's a combination of the team makeup, and the coaching staff, starting with the head coach.

Steve Nash would've had a hard time saving this game.....It was a total collapse. Which only points to one area....Coaching Staff /

crzymdups @ 12/29/2011 1:01 AM
FoeDiddy wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:Toney douglas doesn't even look like he belongs in the league tonite

so... the same as every other night? he's always looked like this. sometimes he hits a few threes. otherwise, everything else is the same. toney is not a pg.

I agree but at least some games you're like okay he scored 20 or he play'd decent defense..that's why he is in the league but tonight...Just plain horrendous on all cylinders. I can see him being a Mardy Collins type in terms of once he breaks ties with the Knicks he could be out the league.

i think this will definitely be the case. under no circumstances should this player be starting at PG for any NBA team. he has no grasp of the position. he's a decent backup and plays solid (though rarely smart) defense.

i will pray for the day that baron and iman are back. our guards are atrocious.

Travla @ 12/29/2011 1:03 AM
The Knicks front line (entire team) was off tonight and ya have to leave it at that!! Every team in the league will have bad nights for the first few weeks of the season.
upstate @ 12/29/2011 1:03 AM
Don't understand why Knicks offense is so 1 on 1. When your bigs go 1 on 1 and chuck up an outside shot, there is no one to offensive rebound. If you are going to do this in the half court, then you'd better run every chance you get, but the Knicks didn't run either. Maybe Bibby is too old to run.
Michael6835 @ 12/29/2011 1:03 AM
Someone said earlier, great front court, possibly weakest back court. T d and Landry are bench players. They have no place in a starting line up. Shump is def missed tonight, heck we missed fish lips on the defense. Offense was basically ISo plays. Td and Landry lack court vision and can't pass or penetrate, so no ball movement.
SupremeCommander @ 12/29/2011 1:04 AM
NYKBocker wrote:
ScoreBot wrote:
Final  
GSW 92 NYK 78

Fuck you ScoreBot!

+1

SupremeCommander @ 12/29/2011 1:05 AM
Michael6835 wrote:Someone said earlier, great front court, possibly weakest back court. T d and Landry are bench players. They have no place in a starting line up. Shump is def missed tonight, heck we missed fish lips on the defense. Offense was basically ISo plays. Td and Landry lack court vision and can't pass or penetrate, so no ball movement.

the Knicks need to figure out how to get a decent Perimeter player with some vision on the roster NOW

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