Rebounding requires both talent and energy. When the Knicks played the Warriors, in the back of their minds, they needed to save some energy for the game with LA the following night. San Francisco, didn't have their next game for 3 days. So no problem, they could leave all of their energy out there on the court. The Warriors out rebounded us because they weren't trying to save their legs, and the Knicks were. game.
This will be an issue this whole season because of the huge number of back to back games. When one team has to play the following night, and the other team has a couple of days to recover, the second team has a 2 advantages. The coach of the team with another game the next night needs to have their starters pace themselves, and also the coach has to increase his rotation to make sure the subs have the energy left to play at a high level the next night.
Anyone agree or disagree?
I don't think that was the issue. That they were holding back. Certainly when the game was slipping away they would have tried if they were going to try.
rvwink wrote:Rebounding requires both talent and energy. When the Knicks played the Warriors, in the back of their minds, they needed to save some energy for the game with LA the following night. San Francisco, didn't have their next game for 3 days. So no problem, they could leave all of their energy out there on the court. The Warriors out rebounded us because they weren't trying to save their legs, and the Knicks were. game. This will be an issue this whole season because of the huge number of back to back games. When one team has to play the following night, and the other team has a couple of days to recover, the second team has a 2 advantages. The coach of the team with another game the next night needs to have their starters pace themselves, and also the coach has to increase his rotation to make sure the subs have the energy left to play at a high level the next night.
Anyone agree or disagree?
I disagree. These guys are intense competitors. Maybe if they had a 25 point lead they start to hustle a little less but when you start to get embarassed I would think you kick the intensity up a notch.
Also, it was the second game of the season. If they were 40 games in and had dominated against a ton of teams maybe they underestimate their opponent or look forward a little bit. However, once they get smacked around a bit, I think that fire comes out and they leave it all on the floor.
These guys are all under 30. They can easily handle a back to back without worrying about saving energy for the next night. It you are not forcing second shots or getting offensive rebounds, it is hard to get more rebounds than your opponent.
I hate being a poor rebounding team, but surely we can get better- Chandler can get 10, Melo is a good rebounder for a SF, which helps make up for Amar'e. TD is okay at rebounding, but I guess my main issue is what has happened to Fields ability to rebound? he used to be good for 7 or 8, now he's down to 2.
As a team, the ability to rebound is there- hopefully with a few more games to shake off some rust and get their timing back, things will turn around- we really need to get better at this while our shooting is so poor.
If your coaching staff doesn't make an issue of not fighting for boards then this will continue. I feel that the emphasis will be getting shots to fall rather than stop losing extra possesions and giving our opponents extra possessions.
smackeddog wrote:I hate being a poor rebounding team, but surely we can get better- Chandler can get 10, Melo is a good rebounder for a SF, which helps make up for Amar'e. TD is okay at rebounding, but I guess my main issue is what has happened to Fields ability to rebound? he used to be good for 7 or 8, now he's down to 2. As a team, the ability to rebound is there- hopefully with a few more games to shake off some rust and get their timing back, things will turn around- we really need to get better at this while our shooting is so poor.
because its all isolation plays, without cutting and penetration to the paint to cause chaos.
Our opponents are all packed in tight in the paint and have position for the RB.
Once Amare or Melo touch the ball, they are ready to crash and grab a RB as they know chances are that they will look to score.
The Warriors won because they wanted it more, plain and simple. Has nothing to do with the Lakers.
I apparently am alone in thinking that smart veterans who know they are playing back to back nights, will try to win as efficiently as they can on the first night. If their opponents are threatening them early in the game, then for sure, they will ramp things up and go for the win in the second half. But it looked like the way they were playing in the first half was working, so I don't think they were killing themselves going for every rebound. Also it probably mattered that they were playing the Lakers the second day, who regularly eat their lunch, and who the Knicks would love to knock off. I think they wanted to have as much energy as possible for that game. Don't forget that because of the really short preseason, our players conditioning is still not what it needs to be.
12 Knicks played in this game. (But Lin was only in for about a minute.) I thought everyone would agree that there is a drop off in quality between our starters, and players number 10 through 12 in the lineup. MDA has been a believer in generally keeping his lineup lean and mean i.e. top 7 or 8 players. Anyway thanks for sharing your opinions.
