Knicks · Game Thread: New York Knicks (2-4) @ Washington Wizards (0-6) - Friday, January 6, 2012 at 7 PM EST (page 19)

MSG3 @ 1/6/2012 8:49 PM
TD is effed in the head. When he's right and in he right role he's valuable.
ScoreBot @ 1/6/2012 8:50 PM
End of 3rd Qtr 
WAS 69 NYK 72
nixluva @ 1/6/2012 8:50 PM
Gotta Say that Grunwald needed to do a better job of bringing in some help at Guard. My only real complaint. If we had a decent crew of guards it would make things a lot better.
martin @ 1/6/2012 8:50 PM
nyk4ever wrote:see d'antoni sat douglas. everyone wants to rip d'antoni but his hands are tied here. he's sitting td and turning to broken down bibby. he has no options because you can't play shumpert 48 mins.

f it, play shump until he cramps. he's young

Childs2Dudley @ 1/6/2012 8:50 PM
Travla @ 1/6/2012 8:50 PM
If Bibby wakes up and becomes consistant.....that would be good.
MSG3 @ 1/6/2012 8:50 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:

Hahaha

gunsnewing @ 1/6/2012 8:50 PM
bibby finally finding his shot. If he can be productive we will be ok til baron. TD backup SG for now
FoeDiddy @ 1/6/2012 8:51 PM
nixluva wrote:Gotta Say that Grunwald needed to do a better job of bringing in some help at Guard. My only real complaint. If we had a decent crew of guards it would make things a lot better.

I would get the Best Defensive Guard in D League with handle. If he can't shoot..don't care..have him bring ball up and pass to our scorers.

MSG3 @ 1/6/2012 8:51 PM
Our bench will be fine when Bibby and Jeffries return
nyk4ever @ 1/6/2012 8:52 PM
FoeDiddy wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:does everyone see what having a guy in the game that can control the pg position does for the team? the offense is better, the defense is better and the to's are down to 1 in the quarter. this whole thing wasn't td's fault but he was playing out of position in the most important position in a d'antoni offense.

+1

No it's his fault..He stinks at PG or SG. You dont' need to create a position for him. He might be a nice guy but he will be out the league once his contract is up or 13 man on mediocre team.

dude you obviously have no idea what you're talking about or you're just being way to reactionary. td is great as a scoring guard off the bench. he excelled in the role last year and he will do so for a while. he's a good player just nowhere near a pg.

So what do we do on Defense when he is in there. He is a liability. We have a 6'1 guy with no moves to be a scoring guard? If that's what he is here for Nate did that and did it better. And you must have a different definition of the word "Great" and "Good".

you're right, great is a bit over the top, i admit. but let's just be real here. td has value in this league, he's a much better defender than he's showed this year, he's good at scoring the ball and he usually doesn't turn it over. but facts are facts and the guy isn't a pg. i think him in the lineup with shump works, because shump can control the pg spot and guard 2guards and td can guard pg's.

FoeDiddy @ 1/6/2012 8:52 PM
Need starting lineup back out at 9 minutes
Olbrannon @ 1/6/2012 8:52 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:How did this guy win ACC Defensive player of the year???

Picking up his man before the half court line. Pressure defense from the inbounds on and good help defenders behind him at the rim.

colombian0725 @ 1/6/2012 8:53 PM
We are getting tore up now. Where is the D?
DrAlphaeus @ 1/6/2012 8:53 PM
Billy Walker!
loweyecue @ 1/6/2012 8:53 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
loweyecue wrote:Why is TD back. OH GOD WHY? Put Bibby in there

you can't not play him because he is a good player, just not a good pg. unfortunately right now he's gotta play pg. if baron is healthy, td will be first guard off the bench and do a great job at it.

Good player? Ok there's nothing else I can say at this point.

im sure you thought he sucked last year when he was shooting 38% from 3, averaging 11ppg and had a 3:1 to ratio as a 2nd year player.

LOL this is like the Nate Robinson discussion again. Both these guys are third string scrubs that should only see PT if we are seriously injury depleted. I have absolutely no love for TD, never did. I think he tries hrd tough but he neither has je skills nr the mindset. Bill walker can jack up threes more consistently than he can.

nyk4ever @ 1/6/2012 8:54 PM
EXCELLENT pass by shumper. i haven't seen someone setup amar'e that way on a fast break yet this year.
colombian0725 @ 1/6/2012 8:54 PM
Is it me or last season STAT would have dunked that?
nyk4ever @ 1/6/2012 8:54 PM
loweyecue wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
loweyecue wrote:Why is TD back. OH GOD WHY? Put Bibby in there

you can't not play him because he is a good player, just not a good pg. unfortunately right now he's gotta play pg. if baron is healthy, td will be first guard off the bench and do a great job at it.

Good player? Ok there's nothing else I can say at this point.

im sure you thought he sucked last year when he was shooting 38% from 3, averaging 11ppg and had a 3:1 to ratio as a 2nd year player.

LOL this is like the Nate Robinson discussion again. Both these guys are third string scrubs that should only see PT if we are seriously injury depleted. I have absolutely no love for TD, never did. I think he tries hrd tough but he neither has je skills nr the mindset. Bill walker can jack up threes more consistently than he can.

there are absolutely NO similarities between nate and td. not one.

ScoreBot @ 1/6/2012 8:55 PM
4th Qtr 9:10
WAS 75 NYK 78
MaTT4281 @ 1/6/2012 8:55 PM
"Flip Saunders nearly jumped out of his expensive Italian shoes on the sideline!"

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