Knicks · Game Thread: New York Knicks (3-4) @ Detroit Pistons (2-5) - Saturday, January 7, 2012 at 7:30 PM EST (page 3)

ScoreBot @ 1/7/2012 8:00 PM
1st Qtr 3:10
DET 18 NYK 25
crzymdups @ 1/7/2012 8:03 PM
FoeDiddy wrote:Stop helping out TD...the help wasn't needed.

He doesn't look too bad though tonite back in his role.

yeah, i think you take the pressure off toney and he can do good things again. seems like melo is running the offense more with toney in the game and shump out.

of course, the spacing has gone awry and they're taking outside jumpers. but some of that could be STAT sitting down, too.

nyk4ever @ 1/7/2012 8:03 PM
FoeDiddy wrote:Stop helping out TD...the help wasn't needed.

He doesn't look too bad though tonite back in his role.

what'd i tell you. he'll be fine for us as the first guard off the bench. he's a scorer and he can defend, even though he's looked terrible defensively this year. the guy isn't a pg and he's definitely not a starting pg, but he's definitely a useful player. the comparisons to nate robinson were laughable.

crzymdups @ 1/7/2012 8:04 PM
STAT very active early with 6pts and 3reb and even a dime.
nixluva @ 1/7/2012 8:04 PM
When you watch the backcourt players on the Knicks you can see why teams shoot a high % from 3. They leave their man too often and then they don't hustle back. TD was guilty on that one play.
nyk4ever @ 1/7/2012 8:04 PM
the best part about td is his mindset as a pro. the guy wants to win and this will make him work harder and improve himself. he's not a me-first player.
ScoreBot @ 1/7/2012 8:05 PM
1st Qtr 1:01
DET 22 NYK 25
crzymdups @ 1/7/2012 8:05 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:Stop helping out TD...the help wasn't needed.

He doesn't look too bad though tonite back in his role.

what'd i tell you. he'll be fine for us as the first guard off the bench. he's a scorer and he can defend, even though he's looked terrible defensively this year. the guy isn't a pg and he's definitely not a starting pg, but he's definitely a useful player. the comparisons to nate robinson were laughable.

i don't love toney's defense. he sags too much off his man and allows a lot of easy 3s and open passing lanes.

crzymdups @ 1/7/2012 8:06 PM
offense looking bad now. lot of outside shots. melo looks tired.
FoeDiddy @ 1/7/2012 8:06 PM
2nd team not knocking down open shots
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN @ 1/7/2012 8:06 PM
Although the Knicks aren't doing their best shooting right now, they still have a lead, are getting lots of boards and seem more focused than this early in the last game.

Let's pull out another road win, Knicks, and make it look good this time.

crzymdups @ 1/7/2012 8:07 PM
plus minus for the first quarter:

Shump +6

Toney -5

Knicks lead by 1

mrKnickShot @ 1/7/2012 8:07 PM
I do not like Anthony's game tonight - way too much one on one and chucking
FoeDiddy @ 1/7/2012 8:08 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:Stop helping out TD...the help wasn't needed.

He doesn't look too bad though tonite back in his role.

what'd i tell you. he'll be fine for us as the first guard off the bench. he's a scorer and he can defend, even though he's looked terrible defensively this year. the guy isn't a pg and he's definitely not a starting pg, but he's definitely a useful player. the comparisons to nate robinson were laughable.

Still think him being the first guard off the bench is not ideal. for the roster we have now yes but that needs to be upgraded..he is a below average player.

crzymdups @ 1/7/2012 8:08 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:I do not like Anthony's game tonight - way too much one on one and chucking

he looks really tired. hope the back isn't bothering him. he also carried a huge load in Washington. he can't score 37 every night. Knicks need other guys to step up.

it'd be nice to get Amar'e going since he seems to have good energy tonight. and Tyson. and Shump.

nixluva @ 1/7/2012 8:08 PM
Jorts looks good on team D and on the Boards. He gets up quickly for such a big guy. I like the ball movement of the Knicks, just gotta knock down shots.
Travla @ 1/7/2012 8:09 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:I do not like Anthony's game tonight - way too much one on one and chucking


I think whatever tweak he experienced last night is keeping him from driving.

FoeDiddy @ 1/7/2012 8:09 PM
crzymdups wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:Stop helping out TD...the help wasn't needed.

He doesn't look too bad though tonite back in his role.

what'd i tell you. he'll be fine for us as the first guard off the bench. he's a scorer and he can defend, even though he's looked terrible defensively this year. the guy isn't a pg and he's definitely not a starting pg, but he's definitely a useful player. the comparisons to nate robinson were laughable.

i don't love toney's defense. he sags too much off his man and allows a lot of easy 3s and open passing lanes.

His defensive stance is very lazy...that why guards go at him. If you notice, opposing guards look hesitant to even drive on Shump cause of his stance.

mrKnickShot @ 1/7/2012 8:09 PM
crzymdups wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:I do not like Anthony's game tonight - way too much one on one and chucking

he looks really tired. hope the back isn't bothering him. he also carried a huge load in Washington. he can't score 37 every night. Knicks need other guys to step up.

it'd be nice to get Amar'e going since he seems to have good energy tonight. and Tyson. and Shump.

Yeah - but those shots are just out of the flow of the offense and selfish - he does not need to do that

nixluva @ 1/7/2012 8:09 PM
TD's shots will eventually fall. The team as a whole isn't shooting well yet this year.
ScoreBot @ 1/7/2012 8:10 PM
2nd Qtr 11:44
DET 25 NYK 25
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