Knicks · fire d'antoni. right now. (page 5)

JCrusher @ 1/21/2012 9:16 PM
mike d'antoni is held accountable no question but the players also aren't doing the nasic things that are learned when your are 8 years old in basketball
kNYks342 @ 1/21/2012 11:18 PM
in all honesty, MDA is just not a good coach. There are simple things good coaches do: call a timeout in when another team goes on a run. Do not call the same inbound play when the one you just called couldnt even get the ball inbounded. Not answer every question with the same answer(ummm we didnt shoot the ball well).
Make good half time adjustments.


This is getting old fast and unfortunately someone has to go.....MDA is not a good coach .PERIOD

markvmc @ 1/21/2012 11:25 PM
What's strange is just how many bad coaches we've had over the past 10 years. Wilkens, Brown, D'Antoni. Why do we keep hiring these crappy coaches?
GustavBahler @ 1/21/2012 11:27 PM
kNYks342 wrote:in all honesty, MDA is just not a good coach. There are simple things good coaches do: call a timeout in when another team goes on a run. Do not call the same inbound play when the one you just called couldnt even get the ball inbounded. Not answer every question with the same answer(ummm we didnt shoot the ball well).
Make good half time adjustments.


This is getting old fast and unfortunately someone has to go.....MDA is not a good coach .PERIOD

Everybody in the Garden knew the ball was going to Melo and he got tripled. You would think that D'Antoni would have planned for that.

CrushAlot @ 1/21/2012 11:28 PM
markvmc wrote:What's strange is just how many bad coaches we've had over the past 10 years. Wilkens, Brown, D'Antoni. Why do we keep hiring these crappy coaches?

The Knicks have a bad coach. The HOF coaches that you mentioned had the misfortune of working under the worst executive in the history of the NBA.
BasketballJones @ 1/21/2012 11:38 PM
I do think it is about time for another ritual sacrifice of the coach. Not that I have anything against , I just think we need to get the voodoo curse lifted, and I think it might be fun to see get publicly humiliated. Like, you could have two security guards jump him midway through the second quarter and bodily drag him across the court, and toss his as out onto eight avenue.

is dazed at first, but then his head clears and he sees a pack of angry fans bearing down on him. He quickly runs out into the avenue waving frantically for a taxi, but the drivers, recognizing him, just drive on, leaving to run through the Lincoln Tunnel, the angry crowd at his heels the whole way.

Oh yeah - and the best part? Zeke comes in and replaces and coaches the rest of the game.

Good Times.

nykshaknbake @ 1/21/2012 11:58 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
markvmc wrote:What's strange is just how many bad coaches we've had over the past 10 years. Wilkens, Brown, D'Antoni. Why do we keep hiring these crappy coaches?

The Knicks have a bad coach. The HOF coaches that you mentioned had the misfortune of working under the worst executive in the history of the NBA.

Brown had his own personal agenda and was warring with the GM. WIlkens had far more sucess than D'Antoni did here.

RonRon @ 1/22/2012 12:57 AM
Nalod wrote:Remember before the season all that hate by those conspirators called "ESPN" and "Sports Illustrated" who many complain have it in for the Knicks?

What I see wrong with the team is not the coaching.

ITs the players failing to execute.

You can't "Fix it now", not by bringing in a new philosophy and expecting the low IQ team we have would adapt.

What do we do? Slow the offense down?

You build a sports car and then wonder why it won't hold a family of 6 and its cargo?

Fans rejoiced the hiring of Woodson and the toughness of Tyson.

And it got worse.

Tyson is part of the problem on defense. I started a thread "Tyson Talk" to discuss x's and o's and nobody want to recognize his presence hurts the team like Shaq did with the suns. He hurts Amare's space.

Tyson's salary also eats salary and the inability to gain depth.

I like Tyson, but while we were all celebrating his Dallas championship we seemed to forget the rest of the team.

Many were like "all we need to do is fill out the rest of the roster".......like this was some easy task.

"grunwald for exec of the year".......Brilliant, just brilliant!

Ok, so what is the answer?

Change the god damn channel!

But players like Dalembert were trying to get 10m+ a year and were playing hard ball.
It's easy to say, I would rather get Dalembert, Shannon Brown, Earl Watson, and Kenyon Dooling now that we are in the season.
But we don't know what those guys would sign for before they actually signed with their current teams.

Tyson's offense does hurt Amare's offense, but he is a top defender/rebounder at his position.
He gave us many attempts with offensive rebounds to give us a chance to win todays game.
Unlike Amare and Melo, he doesn't need or want the basketball to be effective and plays the right way.

I don't think its fair to blame Tyson's contract for the rest of the money we could have spent elsewhere.
Even Kwame Brown got 7m, seriously? Tyson Chandler contract starts at 13m
If you blame anyone, it should be Dolan for not allowing Walsh complete his plan on the last stage...

RonRon @ 1/22/2012 1:09 AM
And Denver had trouble scoring on us until Tyson Chandler fouled out.
And we already know Amare's defense is horrible to pair with him on top of it...
fishmike @ 1/22/2012 8:41 AM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:My math might be wrong ( long day, great craft beer) but I believe D'Antoni has only won 36% of his games when Nash wasn't his point guard. You can come up with some legitimate excuses for part of that record but it spans 5 years. When you consider Boris Diaw's recent interview when he focused on the brilliance of Steve Nash it holds more weight.

Your hate for him has transgresses beyond personal to the level of religion. Do you think MJ didn't coach the Bulls when he was on the floor with them? Stockton? Magic? Heck even Derrick rose does the same thing, this is what great players do.


5 years 36% winning percentage is a significant body of work in my opinion. Also, while I have never liked the hire because I think the philosophy was wrong, I do think management chose to put D'Antoni in a position where he can't be successful. Hate is a very strong word. I can't think of anyone that I hate, I have disagreed fundamentally how D'Antoni approaches coaching and how he wants his team to play. That isn't hate but I desperately want the team to move on. Also, if you asked me if I respected his character and work ethic I would give you a different answer.

You choose to see only the losing part of the record and explain away the winning part. And this then is fair assessment of his work? You are better than this my good man.

He won at an amazing rate with Nash and an assortment of all stars. What he did worked with that roster. However, he was in a unique situation. If Riley came to the Knicks in 91 and expected Mark Jackson to run a showtime offense I don't think he would have been successful.

so why is it a surprise that we are not successful right now without a PG?

Everyone here knows this team needs a point guard, but that's not the sole reason this team is 6-9.

At the end of the day, this team has 2 perennial all stars, regardless of their positions, and they should be somewhere along 9-6, or 10-5. But they're not.

They're lost and unprepared on a nightly basis.

That falls on the head coach.

you guys are HIGH larious

I guess Gallo smoking Melo falls on the head coach also. Im glad it happened. I didnt even watch. No point

JrZyHuStLa @ 1/22/2012 9:41 AM
fishmike wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:My math might be wrong ( long day, great craft beer) but I believe D'Antoni has only won 36% of his games when Nash wasn't his point guard. You can come up with some legitimate excuses for part of that record but it spans 5 years. When you consider Boris Diaw's recent interview when he focused on the brilliance of Steve Nash it holds more weight.

Your hate for him has transgresses beyond personal to the level of religion. Do you think MJ didn't coach the Bulls when he was on the floor with them? Stockton? Magic? Heck even Derrick rose does the same thing, this is what great players do.


5 years 36% winning percentage is a significant body of work in my opinion. Also, while I have never liked the hire because I think the philosophy was wrong, I do think management chose to put D'Antoni in a position where he can't be successful. Hate is a very strong word. I can't think of anyone that I hate, I have disagreed fundamentally how D'Antoni approaches coaching and how he wants his team to play. That isn't hate but I desperately want the team to move on. Also, if you asked me if I respected his character and work ethic I would give you a different answer.

You choose to see only the losing part of the record and explain away the winning part. And this then is fair assessment of his work? You are better than this my good man.

He won at an amazing rate with Nash and an assortment of all stars. What he did worked with that roster. However, he was in a unique situation. If Riley came to the Knicks in 91 and expected Mark Jackson to run a showtime offense I don't think he would have been successful.

so why is it a surprise that we are not successful right now without a PG?

Everyone here knows this team needs a point guard, but that's not the sole reason this team is 6-9.

At the end of the day, this team has 2 perennial all stars, regardless of their positions, and they should be somewhere along 9-6, or 10-5. But they're not.

They're lost and unprepared on a nightly basis.

That falls on the head coach.

you guys are HIGH larious

I guess Gallo smoking Melo falls on the head coach also. Im glad it happened. I didnt even watch. No point

Ah, just the man i was expecting to chime in.

Tell me fish, what do you hold Dantoni accountable for?

nykshaknbake @ 1/22/2012 9:43 AM
It falls on them both. But funny how all the players coming under MDA without coach Nash seem to stink it up with time. Well over a 100 players and they all stink! But it must be them. Poor genious MDA!
fishmike wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:My math might be wrong ( long day, great craft beer) but I believe D'Antoni has only won 36% of his games when Nash wasn't his point guard. You can come up with some legitimate excuses for part of that record but it spans 5 years. When you consider Boris Diaw's recent interview when he focused on the brilliance of Steve Nash it holds more weight.

Your hate for him has transgresses beyond personal to the level of religion. Do you think MJ didn't coach the Bulls when he was on the floor with them? Stockton? Magic? Heck even Derrick rose does the same thing, this is what great players do.


5 years 36% winning percentage is a significant body of work in my opinion. Also, while I have never liked the hire because I think the philosophy was wrong, I do think management chose to put D'Antoni in a position where he can't be successful. Hate is a very strong word. I can't think of anyone that I hate, I have disagreed fundamentally how D'Antoni approaches coaching and how he wants his team to play. That isn't hate but I desperately want the team to move on. Also, if you asked me if I respected his character and work ethic I would give you a different answer.

You choose to see only the losing part of the record and explain away the winning part. And this then is fair assessment of his work? You are better than this my good man.

He won at an amazing rate with Nash and an assortment of all stars. What he did worked with that roster. However, he was in a unique situation. If Riley came to the Knicks in 91 and expected Mark Jackson to run a showtime offense I don't think he would have been successful.

so why is it a surprise that we are not successful right now without a PG?

Everyone here knows this team needs a point guard, but that's not the sole reason this team is 6-9.

At the end of the day, this team has 2 perennial all stars, regardless of their positions, and they should be somewhere along 9-6, or 10-5. But they're not.

They're lost and unprepared on a nightly basis.

That falls on the head coach.

you guys are HIGH larious

I guess Gallo smoking Melo falls on the head coach also. Im glad it happened. I didnt even watch. No point

MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 1/22/2012 9:45 AM
nykshaknbake wrote:It falls on them both. But funny how all the players coming under MDA without coach Nash seem to stink it up with time. Well over a 100 players and they all stink! But it must be them. Poor genious MDA!
fishmike wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:My math might be wrong ( long day, great craft beer) but I believe D'Antoni has only won 36% of his games when Nash wasn't his point guard. You can come up with some legitimate excuses for part of that record but it spans 5 years. When you consider Boris Diaw's recent interview when he focused on the brilliance of Steve Nash it holds more weight.

Your hate for him has transgresses beyond personal to the level of religion. Do you think MJ didn't coach the Bulls when he was on the floor with them? Stockton? Magic? Heck even Derrick rose does the same thing, this is what great players do.


5 years 36% winning percentage is a significant body of work in my opinion. Also, while I have never liked the hire because I think the philosophy was wrong, I do think management chose to put D'Antoni in a position where he can't be successful. Hate is a very strong word. I can't think of anyone that I hate, I have disagreed fundamentally how D'Antoni approaches coaching and how he wants his team to play. That isn't hate but I desperately want the team to move on. Also, if you asked me if I respected his character and work ethic I would give you a different answer.

You choose to see only the losing part of the record and explain away the winning part. And this then is fair assessment of his work? You are better than this my good man.

He won at an amazing rate with Nash and an assortment of all stars. What he did worked with that roster. However, he was in a unique situation. If Riley came to the Knicks in 91 and expected Mark Jackson to run a showtime offense I don't think he would have been successful.

so why is it a surprise that we are not successful right now without a PG?

Everyone here knows this team needs a point guard, but that's not the sole reason this team is 6-9.

At the end of the day, this team has 2 perennial all stars, regardless of their positions, and they should be somewhere along 9-6, or 10-5. But they're not.

They're lost and unprepared on a nightly basis.

That falls on the head coach.

you guys are HIGH larious

I guess Gallo smoking Melo falls on the head coach also. Im glad it happened. I didnt even watch. No point

You give a lesser coach this same player turnover over the same time period and see if they get a team in the playoffs.

JrZyHuStLa @ 1/22/2012 9:46 AM
I've always said Melo and Stat play with limited energy defensively, I'm not favoring them as much as people think.

But the Dantoni supporters constantly act like hes at NO fault whatsoever, and its gotten very silly.

What good is a head coach if the message he's trying to send doesn't result in wins?

nykshaknbake @ 1/22/2012 9:52 AM
1. A lesser coach would be hard to find.
2. Why would we get a lesser coach when almost anyone would be better.
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:It falls on them both. But funny how all the players coming under MDA without coach Nash seem to stink it up with time. Well over a 100 players and they all stink! But it must be them. Poor genious MDA!
fishmike wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:My math might be wrong ( long day, great craft beer) but I believe D'Antoni has only won 36% of his games when Nash wasn't his point guard. You can come up with some legitimate excuses for part of that record but it spans 5 years. When you consider Boris Diaw's recent interview when he focused on the brilliance of Steve Nash it holds more weight.

Your hate for him has transgresses beyond personal to the level of religion. Do you think MJ didn't coach the Bulls when he was on the floor with them? Stockton? Magic? Heck even Derrick rose does the same thing, this is what great players do.


5 years 36% winning percentage is a significant body of work in my opinion. Also, while I have never liked the hire because I think the philosophy was wrong, I do think management chose to put D'Antoni in a position where he can't be successful. Hate is a very strong word. I can't think of anyone that I hate, I have disagreed fundamentally how D'Antoni approaches coaching and how he wants his team to play. That isn't hate but I desperately want the team to move on. Also, if you asked me if I respected his character and work ethic I would give you a different answer.

You choose to see only the losing part of the record and explain away the winning part. And this then is fair assessment of his work? You are better than this my good man.

He won at an amazing rate with Nash and an assortment of all stars. What he did worked with that roster. However, he was in a unique situation. If Riley came to the Knicks in 91 and expected Mark Jackson to run a showtime offense I don't think he would have been successful.

so why is it a surprise that we are not successful right now without a PG?

Everyone here knows this team needs a point guard, but that's not the sole reason this team is 6-9.

At the end of the day, this team has 2 perennial all stars, regardless of their positions, and they should be somewhere along 9-6, or 10-5. But they're not.

They're lost and unprepared on a nightly basis.

That falls on the head coach.

you guys are HIGH larious

I guess Gallo smoking Melo falls on the head coach also. Im glad it happened. I didnt even watch. No point

You give a lesser coach this same player turnover over the same time period and see if they get a team in the playoffs.

MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 1/22/2012 9:54 AM
nykshaknbake wrote:1. A lesser coach would be hard to find.
2. Why would we get a lesser coach when almost anyone would be better.
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:It falls on them both. But funny how all the players coming under MDA without coach Nash seem to stink it up with time. Well over a 100 players and they all stink! But it must be them. Poor genious MDA!
fishmike wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:My math might be wrong ( long day, great craft beer) but I believe D'Antoni has only won 36% of his games when Nash wasn't his point guard. You can come up with some legitimate excuses for part of that record but it spans 5 years. When you consider Boris Diaw's recent interview when he focused on the brilliance of Steve Nash it holds more weight.

Your hate for him has transgresses beyond personal to the level of religion. Do you think MJ didn't coach the Bulls when he was on the floor with them? Stockton? Magic? Heck even Derrick rose does the same thing, this is what great players do.


5 years 36% winning percentage is a significant body of work in my opinion. Also, while I have never liked the hire because I think the philosophy was wrong, I do think management chose to put D'Antoni in a position where he can't be successful. Hate is a very strong word. I can't think of anyone that I hate, I have disagreed fundamentally how D'Antoni approaches coaching and how he wants his team to play. That isn't hate but I desperately want the team to move on. Also, if you asked me if I respected his character and work ethic I would give you a different answer.

You choose to see only the losing part of the record and explain away the winning part. And this then is fair assessment of his work? You are better than this my good man.

He won at an amazing rate with Nash and an assortment of all stars. What he did worked with that roster. However, he was in a unique situation. If Riley came to the Knicks in 91 and expected Mark Jackson to run a showtime offense I don't think he would have been successful.

so why is it a surprise that we are not successful right now without a PG?

Everyone here knows this team needs a point guard, but that's not the sole reason this team is 6-9.

At the end of the day, this team has 2 perennial all stars, regardless of their positions, and they should be somewhere along 9-6, or 10-5. But they're not.

They're lost and unprepared on a nightly basis.

That falls on the head coach.

you guys are HIGH larious

I guess Gallo smoking Melo falls on the head coach also. Im glad it happened. I didnt even watch. No point

You give a lesser coach this same player turnover over the same time period and see if they get a team in the playoffs.

No consideration for context and posting above the quote, to boot. Terrible.

nykshaknbake @ 1/22/2012 10:07 AM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:1. A lesser coach would be hard to find.
2. Why would we get a lesser coach when almost anyone would be better.
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:It falls on them both. But funny how all the players coming under MDA without coach Nash seem to stink it up with time. Well over a 100 players and they all stink! But it must be them. Poor genious MDA!
fishmike wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:My math might be wrong ( long day, great craft beer) but I believe D'Antoni has only won 36% of his games when Nash wasn't his point guard. You can come up with some legitimate excuses for part of that record but it spans 5 years. When you consider Boris Diaw's recent interview when he focused on the brilliance of Steve Nash it holds more weight.

Your hate for him has transgresses beyond personal to the level of religion. Do you think MJ didn't coach the Bulls when he was on the floor with them? Stockton? Magic? Heck even Derrick rose does the same thing, this is what great players do.


5 years 36% winning percentage is a significant body of work in my opinion. Also, while I have never liked the hire because I think the philosophy was wrong, I do think management chose to put D'Antoni in a position where he can't be successful. Hate is a very strong word. I can't think of anyone that I hate, I have disagreed fundamentally how D'Antoni approaches coaching and how he wants his team to play. That isn't hate but I desperately want the team to move on. Also, if you asked me if I respected his character and work ethic I would give you a different answer.

You choose to see only the losing part of the record and explain away the winning part. And this then is fair assessment of his work? You are better than this my good man.

He won at an amazing rate with Nash and an assortment of all stars. What he did worked with that roster. However, he was in a unique situation. If Riley came to the Knicks in 91 and expected Mark Jackson to run a showtime offense I don't think he would have been successful.

so why is it a surprise that we are not successful right now without a PG?

Everyone here knows this team needs a point guard, but that's not the sole reason this team is 6-9.

At the end of the day, this team has 2 perennial all stars, regardless of their positions, and they should be somewhere along 9-6, or 10-5. But they're not.

They're lost and unprepared on a nightly basis.

That falls on the head coach.

you guys are HIGH larious

I guess Gallo smoking Melo falls on the head coach also. Im glad it happened. I didnt even watch. No point

You give a lesser coach this same player turnover over the same time period and see if they get a team in the playoffs.

No consideration for context and posting above the quote, to boot. Terrible.

My apologies for the posting above the quote. The rest is excuses that don't work especially given the product on the floor. A better coach would have some problems for sure, but not to this degree. My question to you is if MDA has accomplished nothing why such a drive to keep and defend him? Next year will be the same. MDA didn't have Baron(if we retain him) for ha;lf the season and no preaeason, so it's not fair to judge him. He needs at least one season with roster change. Wahh wah.

CrushAlot @ 1/22/2012 12:33 PM
nykshaknbake wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:1. A lesser coach would be hard to find.
2. Why would we get a lesser coach when almost anyone would be better.
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:It falls on them both. But funny how all the players coming under MDA without coach Nash seem to stink it up with time. Well over a 100 players and they all stink! But it must be them. Poor genious MDA!
fishmike wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:My math might be wrong ( long day, great craft beer) but I believe D'Antoni has only won 36% of his games when Nash wasn't his point guard. You can come up with some legitimate excuses for part of that record but it spans 5 years. When you consider Boris Diaw's recent interview when he focused on the brilliance of Steve Nash it holds more weight.

Your hate for him has transgresses beyond personal to the level of religion. Do you think MJ didn't coach the Bulls when he was on the floor with them? Stockton? Magic? Heck even Derrick rose does the same thing, this is what great players do.


5 years 36% winning percentage is a significant body of work in my opinion. Also, while I have never liked the hire because I think the philosophy was wrong, I do think management chose to put D'Antoni in a position where he can't be successful. Hate is a very strong word. I can't think of anyone that I hate, I have disagreed fundamentally how D'Antoni approaches coaching and how he wants his team to play. That isn't hate but I desperately want the team to move on. Also, if you asked me if I respected his character and work ethic I would give you a different answer.

You choose to see only the losing part of the record and explain away the winning part. And this then is fair assessment of his work? You are better than this my good man.

He won at an amazing rate with Nash and an assortment of all stars. What he did worked with that roster. However, he was in a unique situation. If Riley came to the Knicks in 91 and expected Mark Jackson to run a showtime offense I don't think he would have been successful.

so why is it a surprise that we are not successful right now without a PG?

Everyone here knows this team needs a point guard, but that's not the sole reason this team is 6-9.

At the end of the day, this team has 2 perennial all stars, regardless of their positions, and they should be somewhere along 9-6, or 10-5. But they're not.

They're lost and unprepared on a nightly basis.

That falls on the head coach.

you guys are HIGH larious

I guess Gallo smoking Melo falls on the head coach also. Im glad it happened. I didnt even watch. No point

You give a lesser coach this same player turnover over the same time period and see if they get a team in the playoffs.

No consideration for context and posting above the quote, to boot. Terrible.

My apologies for the posting above the quote. The rest is excuses that don't work especially given the product on the floor. A better coach would have some problems for sure, but not to this degree. My question to you is if MDA has accomplished nothing why such a drive to keep and defend him? Next year will be the same. MDA didn't have Baron(if we retain him) for ha;lf the season and no preaeason, so it's not fair to judge him. He needs at least one season with roster change. Wahh wah.

I agree. It isn't just this year. The guy has been here for 3+ years. In my opinion he should have been let go a long time ago. I actually feel sorry for him this year as I don't think he has a chance to succeed. What he did in the past earned his being canned in my opinion. I also don't think he brings anything to the bench that benefits the Knicks. Not being able to adjust to his personnel was a problem before this year.
Knicksfan @ 1/22/2012 2:41 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:1. A lesser coach would be hard to find.
2. Why would we get a lesser coach when almost anyone would be better.
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:It falls on them both. But funny how all the players coming under MDA without coach Nash seem to stink it up with time. Well over a 100 players and they all stink! But it must be them. Poor genious MDA!
fishmike wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:My math might be wrong ( long day, great craft beer) but I believe D'Antoni has only won 36% of his games when Nash wasn't his point guard. You can come up with some legitimate excuses for part of that record but it spans 5 years. When you consider Boris Diaw's recent interview when he focused on the brilliance of Steve Nash it holds more weight.

Your hate for him has transgresses beyond personal to the level of religion. Do you think MJ didn't coach the Bulls when he was on the floor with them? Stockton? Magic? Heck even Derrick rose does the same thing, this is what great players do.


5 years 36% winning percentage is a significant body of work in my opinion. Also, while I have never liked the hire because I think the philosophy was wrong, I do think management chose to put D'Antoni in a position where he can't be successful. Hate is a very strong word. I can't think of anyone that I hate, I have disagreed fundamentally how D'Antoni approaches coaching and how he wants his team to play. That isn't hate but I desperately want the team to move on. Also, if you asked me if I respected his character and work ethic I would give you a different answer.

You choose to see only the losing part of the record and explain away the winning part. And this then is fair assessment of his work? You are better than this my good man.

He won at an amazing rate with Nash and an assortment of all stars. What he did worked with that roster. However, he was in a unique situation. If Riley came to the Knicks in 91 and expected Mark Jackson to run a showtime offense I don't think he would have been successful.

so why is it a surprise that we are not successful right now without a PG?

Everyone here knows this team needs a point guard, but that's not the sole reason this team is 6-9.

At the end of the day, this team has 2 perennial all stars, regardless of their positions, and they should be somewhere along 9-6, or 10-5. But they're not.

They're lost and unprepared on a nightly basis.

That falls on the head coach.

you guys are HIGH larious

I guess Gallo smoking Melo falls on the head coach also. Im glad it happened. I didnt even watch. No point

You give a lesser coach this same player turnover over the same time period and see if they get a team in the playoffs.

No consideration for context and posting above the quote, to boot. Terrible.

My apologies for the posting above the quote. The rest is excuses that don't work especially given the product on the floor. A better coach would have some problems for sure, but not to this degree. My question to you is if MDA has accomplished nothing why such a drive to keep and defend him? Next year will be the same. MDA didn't have Baron(if we retain him) for ha;lf the season and no preaeason, so it's not fair to judge him. He needs at least one season with roster change. Wahh wah.

I agree. It isn't just this year. The guy has been here for 3+ years. In my opinion he should have been let go a long time ago. I actually feel sorry for him this year as I don't think he has a chance to succeed. What he did in the past earned his being canned in my opinion. I also don't think he brings anything to the bench that benefits the Knicks. Not being able to adjust to his personnel was a problem before this year.

Send Closk imminent.

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