good win..
melo didn't score, but rebounded and dished
amare finally got dunks
fields played well
Chandler was a BEAST...
NOVAK should see more time... guy can shoot...
CrushAlot wrote:GustavBahler wrote:CrushAlot wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Love the reaction on the bench to Lin
Lin looked great. I would love to see him get some meaningful minutes.
Him and Novak. He could be what Shawne Williams was last season if they gave him a chance. I didn't know Lin had that good a dribble.
Sweet move to the rim.
I think that might have been the plan for Novak. Maybe this can be the game where these guys move into the rotation. They bring a lot that would help the team.
I agree, the Knicks have played well when they have expanded the rotation. Maybe not so much this season (hasn't happened much) but last season. I think it helps the team's chemistry to have more of them involved. Doesn't always work out that way but I think it works better for this roster.
Lin definitely deserves a look ahead of TD, does look a little out of control though.
loweyecue wrote:crzymdups wrote:gunsnewing wrote:crzymdups wrote:nice move, JJ5
JJ3 no?
Jerome James JJ1
Jared Jeffries JJ2
Jerome Jordan JJ3
i dunno, i lost count. 
does jeffries count twice since he's in his second stint?
Didn't Joe Johnson become JJ4, when we offered him a max deal?
We had another JJ during the Isiah years...min contract, corn rows, used to play with Indy...forget his name.
MaTT4281 wrote:loweyecue wrote:crzymdups wrote:gunsnewing wrote:crzymdups wrote:nice move, JJ5
JJ3 no?
Jerome James JJ1
Jared Jeffries JJ2
Jerome Jordan JJ3
i dunno, i lost count. does jeffries count twice since he's in his second stint?
Didn't Joe Johnson become JJ4, when we offered him a max deal?
We had another JJ during the Isiah years...min contract, corn rows, used to play with Indy...forget his name.
Jermaine Jackson? LOL
http://basketballreference.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=JACKSJE01
gunsnewing wrote:MaTT4281 wrote:loweyecue wrote:crzymdups wrote:gunsnewing wrote:crzymdups wrote:nice move, JJ5
JJ3 no?
Jerome James JJ1
Jared Jeffries JJ2
Jerome Jordan JJ3
i dunno, i lost count. does jeffries count twice since he's in his second stint?
Didn't Joe Johnson become JJ4, when we offered him a max deal?
We had another JJ during the Isiah years...min contract, corn rows, used to play with Indy...forget his name.
Jermaine Jackson? LOL
http://basketballreference.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=JACKSJE01
There you go! Haha that was going to bug me all night. Thank you.
MaTT4281 wrote:loweyecue wrote:crzymdups wrote:gunsnewing wrote:crzymdups wrote:nice move, JJ5
JJ3 no?
Jerome James JJ1
Jared Jeffries JJ2
Jerome Jordan JJ3
i dunno, i lost count. does jeffries count twice since he's in his second stint?
Didn't Joe Johnson become JJ4, when we offered him a max deal?
We had another JJ during the Isiah years...min contract, corn rows, used to play with Indy...forget his name.
Right you are! Jermaine Jackson (?) - not sure I remember correctly
loweyecue wrote:MaTT4281 wrote:loweyecue wrote:crzymdups wrote:gunsnewing wrote:crzymdups wrote:nice move, JJ5
JJ3 no?
Jerome James JJ1
Jared Jeffries JJ2
Jerome Jordan JJ3
i dunno, i lost count. does jeffries count twice since he's in his second stint?
Didn't Joe Johnson become JJ4, when we offered him a max deal?
We had another JJ during the Isiah years...min contract, corn rows, used to play with Indy...forget his name.
Right you are! Jermaine Jackson (?) - not sure I remember correctly
Never mind already posted
Good win. Glad we got Melo some rest with Amare/Tyson picking up some of the slack.
I don't know why some of you keep begging for Lin to get minutes (those of you that aren't joking about him needing more minutes). I like the kid too but from the minutes I've seen of him, he doesn't look ready yet to run an offense.....as soon as he came in tonight he struggled to distribute against a team that was being blown out in a game already decided (he left his feet a couple of times to make passes where no one was really there to receive the ball).
Yeah, he settled a little bit after and hit those shots but I still don't think he has shown that he is comfortable running an offense in blowout games....until he can do that, I don't think it makes sense to play him against tougher defenses at times in the game where the score is actually a lot closer.
loweyecue wrote:Lin definitely deserves a look ahead of TD, does look a little out of control though.
Most definitively. At least ahead of Bibby. He had some out of control moment because he knew he only had a few minutes to impress. He looked very calm and poised in the D-League game.
It'll be interesting to see how Amare does on the 2nd game of back to backs, much less games 3&4 of 4 games in 5 days. I have a bad feeling that it's downhill from here in terms of production from Amare. He needs days off between games at this point.
loweyecue wrote:MaTT4281 wrote:loweyecue wrote:crzymdups wrote:gunsnewing wrote:crzymdups wrote:nice move, JJ5
JJ3 no?
Jerome James JJ1
Jared Jeffries JJ2
Jerome Jordan JJ3
i dunno, i lost count. does jeffries count twice since he's in his second stint?
Didn't Joe Johnson become JJ4, when we offered him a max deal?
We had another JJ during the Isiah years...min contract, corn rows, used to play with Indy...forget his name.
Right you are! Jermaine Jackson (?) - not sure I remember correctly
There was even another one. A white kid, PG, don't think he stuck in the league.
Amare took good shots tonight--he was aggressive as was Chandler and that made a difference. Good shots for Amare=55% shooting 23-8
s3231 wrote:Good win. Glad we got Melo some rest with Amare/Tyson picking up some of the slack.I don't know why some of you keep begging for Lin to get minutes (those of you that aren't joking about him needing more minutes). I like the kid too but from the minutes I've seen of him, he doesn't look ready yet to run an offense.....as soon as he came in tonight he struggled to distribute against a team that was being blown out in a game already decided (he left his feet a couple of times to make passes where no one was really there to receive the ball).
Yeah, he settled a little bit after and hit those shots but I still don't think he has shown that he is comfortable running an offense in blowout games....until he can do that, I don't think it makes sense to play him against tougher defenses at times in the game where the score is actually a lot closer.
hey if there is Jimmmer Feverrr, why can't we have Linner Feverrr
loweyecue wrote:Lin definitely deserves a look ahead of TD, does look a little out of control though.
disagree, thought toney looked much better tonight. toney had a really good game... in non garbage time which has to count for more.
crzymdups wrote:loweyecue wrote:Lin definitely deserves a look ahead of TD, does look a little out of control though.
disagree, thought toney looked much better tonight. toney had a really good game... in non garbage time which has to count for more.
If you get to suck for as long as Toney has with unrestricted PT dictated by injury to others every one is likely to have one good game here or there. To his credit he looked to pass today, but he can't run the offense. Lin has shown he can penetrate and pass as well as slow it down at times against third string players. But unless he gets minutes as part of the second unit in non garbage time we won't know how he does running the offense in real NBA situations. Our core need is two regular PGs in the rotation. BD makes on when he is back. Lin/Bibby combination should make the second but Lin needs PT to get there.
loweyecue wrote:crzymdups wrote:loweyecue wrote:Lin definitely deserves a look ahead of TD, does look a little out of control though.
disagree, thought toney looked much better tonight. toney had a really good game... in non garbage time which has to count for more.
If you get to suck for as long as Toney has with unrestricted PT dictated by injury to others every one is likely to have one good game here or there. To his credit he looked to pass today, but he can't run the offense. Lin has shown he can penetrate and pass as well as slow it down at times against third string players. But unless he gets minutes as part of the second unit in non garbage time we won't know how he does running the offense in real NBA situations. Our core need is two regular PGs in the rotation. BD makes on when he is back. Lin/Bibby combination should make the second but Lin needs PT to get there.
"But unless he gets minutes as part of the second unit in non garbage time we won't know how he does running the offense in real NBA situations."
Its not "We", its up to the coaches to determine this. We know he can play at the Dleague level, and 3rd string mop up duty but we don't know any more. He came with the benefit of no camp, and I think a sore knee.
He has Bibby ahead of him. I know its better to develop players but we talking the panic ridden knicks.
Lin could be cut. Should be Balky. Sometimes its out of respect we cut a player who may want another opportunity rather than Dleagued.
Panos wrote:loweyecue wrote:MaTT4281 wrote:loweyecue wrote:crzymdups wrote:gunsnewing wrote:crzymdups wrote:nice move, JJ5
JJ3 no?
Jerome James JJ1
Jared Jeffries JJ2
Jerome Jordan JJ3
i dunno, i lost count. does jeffries count twice since he's in his second stint?
Didn't Joe Johnson become JJ4, when we offered him a max deal?
We had another JJ during the Isiah years...min contract, corn rows, used to play with Indy...forget his name.
Right you are! Jermaine Jackson (?) - not sure I remember correctly
There was even another one. A white kid, PG, don't think he stuck in the league.
Jared Jordan from Marist.
Nalod wrote:loweyecue wrote:crzymdups wrote:loweyecue wrote:Lin definitely deserves a look ahead of TD, does look a little out of control though.
disagree, thought toney looked much better tonight. toney had a really good game... in non garbage time which has to count for more.
If you get to suck for as long as Toney has with unrestricted PT dictated by injury to others every one is likely to have one good game here or there. To his credit he looked to pass today, but he can't run the offense. Lin has shown he can penetrate and pass as well as slow it down at times against third string players. But unless he gets minutes as part of the second unit in non garbage time we won't know how he does running the offense in real NBA situations. Our core need is two regular PGs in the rotation. BD makes on when he is back. Lin/Bibby combination should make the second but Lin needs PT to get there.
"But unless he gets minutes as part of the second unit in non garbage time we won't know how he does running the offense in real NBA situations."Its not "We", its up to the coaches to determine this. We know he can play at the Dleague level, and 3rd string mop up duty but we don't know any more. He came with the benefit of no camp, and I think a sore knee.
He has Bibby ahead of him. I know its better to develop players but we talking the panic ridden knicks.
Lin could be cut. Should be Balky. Sometimes its out of respect we cut a player who may want another opportunity rather than Dleagued.
and that is the story of Lin's NBA Career. He can never get a shot pass the getting the foot in the door.
NYKBocker wrote:Nalod wrote:loweyecue wrote:crzymdups wrote:loweyecue wrote:Lin definitely deserves a look ahead of TD, does look a little out of control though.
disagree, thought toney looked much better tonight. toney had a really good game... in non garbage time which has to count for more.
If you get to suck for as long as Toney has with unrestricted PT dictated by injury to others every one is likely to have one good game here or there. To his credit he looked to pass today, but he can't run the offense. Lin has shown he can penetrate and pass as well as slow it down at times against third string players. But unless he gets minutes as part of the second unit in non garbage time we won't know how he does running the offense in real NBA situations. Our core need is two regular PGs in the rotation. BD makes on when he is back. Lin/Bibby combination should make the second but Lin needs PT to get there.
"But unless he gets minutes as part of the second unit in non garbage time we won't know how he does running the offense in real NBA situations."Its not "We", its up to the coaches to determine this. We know he can play at the Dleague level, and 3rd string mop up duty but we don't know any more. He came with the benefit of no camp, and I think a sore knee.
He has Bibby ahead of him. I know its better to develop players but we talking the panic ridden knicks.
Lin could be cut. Should be Balky. Sometimes its out of respect we cut a player who may want another opportunity rather than Dleagued.
and that is the story of Lin's NBA Career. He can never get a shot pass the getting the foot in the door.
He may be a tweener.......and true, many players have the talent but not the opportunity to demonstrate. Contracts matter also.
But if he is a keeper, we could release Balky and just eat his salary.
And coach status. Maybe MDA likes him and would want to develop him. Can MDA think beyond this season? Not without an extension.
MDA if under the gun to win now, makes decisions based on that.
Nalod wrote:loweyecue wrote:crzymdups wrote:loweyecue wrote:Lin definitely deserves a look ahead of TD, does look a little out of control though.
disagree, thought toney looked much better tonight. toney had a really good game... in non garbage time which has to count for more.
If you get to suck for as long as Toney has with unrestricted PT dictated by injury to others every one is likely to have one good game here or there. To his credit he looked to pass today, but he can't run the offense. Lin has shown he can penetrate and pass as well as slow it down at times against third string players. But unless he gets minutes as part of the second unit in non garbage time we won't know how he does running the offense in real NBA situations. Our core need is two regular PGs in the rotation. BD makes on when he is back. Lin/Bibby combination should make the second but Lin needs PT to get there.
"But unless he gets minutes as part of the second unit in non garbage time we won't know how he does running the offense in real NBA situations."Its not "We", its up to the coaches to determine this. We know he can play at the Dleague level, and 3rd string mop up duty but we don't know any more. He came with the benefit of no camp, and I think a sore knee.
He has Bibby ahead of him. I know its better to develop players but we talking the panic ridden knicks.
Lin could be cut. Should be Balky. Sometimes its out of respect we cut a player who may want another opportunity rather than Dleagued.
All true. I am not about to decide that Lin is better and then speculate that MDA hates rookies or Asians or point guards or whatever. I am more than happy to let the coach make coaching decisions. As you said we don't know what happens in practice and I don't participate in threads that try to recreate practice sessions based on twitter feeds in order to fit the theory that MDA doesn't do this or that. That shit is just plain dumb.
But I was making an assessment of what I didd see from Lin and comparing it to what I have seen from TD over the years. Lin can drive, pass in traffic and HTOM. TD can't. Whether Lins game will ever translate or not I can't say. My argument is that while we don't have a PG he may at least see some minutes. I won't be trying to rake 
over the coals if he doesn't.
