Knicks · Phoenix didnt want to guarantee the last 2 years of Amare's deal for a reason (page 1)
AnubisADL@ 1/29/2012 2:08 PM
Phoenix has one of he best NBA medical staffs and they didn't want to guarantee the last 2 years of Amare's deal. I guess now we are seeing why. I guess we can say last year was a fluke year for Amare and what we are seeing now is the Amare we will be seeing over the rest of the contract. Pretty depressing. I just dont see Amare being worth 20 million without the athleticism to finish at the rim.
He came here because we gave him by far the most guaranteed money. It made no sense to add a player with his injury history and at this stage in his career to a 29 win team.
Did you post the wrong video? That looked like an unimpressive, gentle tip in.
No, that was a put back dunk...
OK, a gentle put-back dunk not worthy of inclusion in this thread.
Then I doubt u saw the game...
holfresh@ 1/29/2012 3:07 PM
eViL wrote:if anyone remembered the threads from the offseason where i suggested saving the amnesty for Amare, this is why.
his explosion appears to have taken a tremendous hit.
From all reports, he didn't play all summer...He just started getting back into shape during training camp...He seems to be beginning to get into shape now by evidence of the last two games...
Did you post the wrong video? That looked like an unimpressive, gentle tip in.
No, that was a put back dunk...
OK, a gentle put-back dunk not worthy of inclusion in this thread.
Then I doubt u saw the game...
no. you don't get it. Bonn throws down a lot of vicious dunks. he's not impressed.
MS@ 1/29/2012 3:31 PM
That's why you don't Fucking amnesty Billups to bring in Chandler. We will never contend with this owner. We are finished again.
knicks1248@ 1/29/2012 3:50 PM
holfresh wrote:
eViL wrote:if anyone remembered the threads from the offseason where i suggested saving the amnesty for Amare, this is why.
his explosion appears to have taken a tremendous hit.
From all reports, he didn't play all summer...He just started getting back into shape during training camp...He seems to be beginning to get into shape now by evidence of the last two games...
Thank you...We have sucky PG's that can't get our bigs the ball. I see amare being tenative, and not sharp on his cuts, and when he is, the PG isn't sharp enough to get the ball where it needs to be..
colombian0725@ 1/29/2012 4:02 PM
eViL wrote:if anyone remembered the threads from the offseason where i suggested saving the amnesty for Amare, this is why.
his explosion appears to have taken a tremendous hit.
The truth hurts... everyone will blame the lack of PG than admit that Amare doesn't have the same lift. He is getting embarrassed. But none of the faithful followers want to admit it. They're in denial.
holfresh@ 1/29/2012 4:10 PM
MS wrote:That's why you don't Fucking amnesty Billups to bring in Chandler. We will never contend with this owner. We are finished again.
That was a good move by the Knicks...This is basketball, it takes time to gel...With no PG and a backcourt where everyone makes poor decision, SSOL will look sloppy...But the Chandler move was a solid move...Coach sucks tho..
knicks1248@ 1/29/2012 4:27 PM
we have(this isn't even debatable) the worst PG in the league, and it's the coaches fault.
A pg avging less the 4 ast, is the coaches fault..
Go take a look at the standings, the top 5 teams in each conference have a bonifide pg or playmaker in there backcourt..we have niether. We have a top 5 scorer (a sf) facilitating our offense, a guy who has been ask to do something he has never done in his life..
holfresh@ 1/29/2012 4:38 PM
knicks1248 wrote:we have(this isn't even debatable) the worst PG in the league, and it's the coaches fault.
A pg avging less the 4 ast, is the coaches fault..
Go take a look at the standings, the top 5 teams in each conference have a bonifide pg or playmaker in there backcourt..we have niether. We have a top 5 scorer (a sf) facilitating our offense, a guy who has been ask to do something he has never done in his life..
No that's inst the coaches fault...Here is what is the coaches fault...We do not have one player in the back court that makes good decision...Not one..Not TD, Shump, Walker,or Fields...Yet he insist on running SSOL...We are still taking an insane amount of 3 pointers with guys who can't shoot...Our best players are in the front court...They can hit free throws and can board...Not once since MDA was given his job in NY have you ever heard him talk about rebounding and free throws, Riley use to say that wins Championships...So, we take an insane amount of threes,thus long rebounds, so we can't take advantage of our big front line...We don't get to the line...We have scrubs chucking from downtown and that's the game plan...U decide...
nixluva@ 1/29/2012 5:00 PM
holfresh wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:we have(this isn't even debatable) the worst PG in the league, and it's the coaches fault.
A pg avging less the 4 ast, is the coaches fault..
Go take a look at the standings, the top 5 teams in each conference have a bonifide pg or playmaker in there backcourt..we have niether. We have a top 5 scorer (a sf) facilitating our offense, a guy who has been ask to do something he has never done in his life..
No that's inst the coaches fault...Here is what is the coaches fault...We do not have one player in the back court that makes good decision...Not one..Not TD, Shump, Walker,or Fields...Yet he insist on running SSOL...We are still taking an insane amount of 3 pointers with guys who can't shoot...Our best players are in the front court...They can hit free throws and can board...Not once since MDA was given his job in NY have you ever heard him talk about rebounding and free throws, Riley use to say that wins Championships...So, we take an insane amount of threes,thus long rebounds, so we can't take advantage of our big front line...We don't get to the line...We have scrubs chucking from downtown and that's the game plan...U decide...
The big flaw in your argument is that we aren't runnin SSOL. Do you even remember what SSOL looks like? This coach has adapted to the roster and when they actually move the ball and execute they score. The problem is you can't expect these guys to keep that up on their own. When you have a PG they are the one that settles a team down and gets them back into the offense. A PG will create more easy looks so that everything isn't so hard. You can't get by with almost zero players that can smartly handle the ball and make good decisions. Every coach needs a coach on the court.
MS@ 1/29/2012 5:23 PM
Chandler is not a solid move. If amare was headed to New Orleans with Paul fine. But, amare is not himself so at max money for.three guys we are screwed
holfresh@ 1/29/2012 6:11 PM
nixluva wrote:
holfresh wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:we have(this isn't even debatable) the worst PG in the league, and it's the coaches fault.
A pg avging less the 4 ast, is the coaches fault..
Go take a look at the standings, the top 5 teams in each conference have a bonifide pg or playmaker in there backcourt..we have niether. We have a top 5 scorer (a sf) facilitating our offense, a guy who has been ask to do something he has never done in his life..
No that's inst the coaches fault...Here is what is the coaches fault...We do not have one player in the back court that makes good decision...Not one..Not TD, Shump, Walker,or Fields...Yet he insist on running SSOL...We are still taking an insane amount of 3 pointers with guys who can't shoot...Our best players are in the front court...They can hit free throws and can board...Not once since MDA was given his job in NY have you ever heard him talk about rebounding and free throws, Riley use to say that wins Championships...So, we take an insane amount of threes,thus long rebounds, so we can't take advantage of our big front line...We don't get to the line...We have scrubs chucking from downtown and that's the game plan...U decide...
The big flaw in your argument is that we aren't runnin SSOL. Do you even remember what SSOL looks like? This coach has adapted to the roster and when they actually move the ball and execute they score. The problem is you can't expect these guys to keep that up on their own. When you have a PG they are the one that settles a team down and gets them back into the offense. A PG will create more easy looks so that everything isn't so hard. You can't get by with almost zero players that can smartly handle the ball and make good decisions. Every coach needs a coach on the court.
They were absolutely trying to run SSOL the last two games without Melo...In the process they threw up 69 threes in two games...
