holfresh wrote:Nix, doesn't it bother you that while here, his teams never overachieved, not once...Even the most optimistic fan on the planet, which u have to be, must give a little pause...
it doesn't bother me too much, especially considering the changing roster. Was it frustrating? sure. After that, who cares.
You move ahead with what is best for future.
martin wrote:holfresh wrote:What has he done here to warrant an extension?
when you give a gourmet cook nothing but hotdogs, powdered egg whites and water and say go, what do you expect?
And if you finally give that cook ingredients to work with and ask what has he done to warrant an extension, you are asking the wrong question.
Good points. But, how do you extend a cook who has yet to prove his worth due to lack of ingredients? Shouldn't he at least need to prove himself this season/playoffs?
It's amazing how the clock keeps getting reset on Antoni. He's been here almost 4 years and it's still unfair to judge him on anything. Although it's never too early to extend his contract apparently.
mrKnickShot wrote:martin wrote:holfresh wrote:What has he done here to warrant an extension?
when you give a gourmet cook nothing but hotdogs, powdered egg whites and water and say go, what do you expect?
And if you finally give that cook ingredients to work with and ask what has he done to warrant an extension, you are asking the wrong question.
Good points. But, how do you extend a cook who has yet to prove his worth due to lack of ingredients? Shouldn't he at least need to prove himself this season/playoffs?
I guess that's where GM's make their money. Look at whole resume, situation, strengths, this year's playoffs, etc. All of it.
Also take into account who else is out there and know that ANOTHER system will have to be implemented with maybe some different players (current players may not fit).
islesfan wrote:It's amazing how the clock keeps getting reset on Antoni. He's been here almost 4 years and it's still unfair to judge him on anything. Although it's never too early to extend his contract apparently.
Critical thinking isn't your strong suit.
islesfan wrote:It's amazing how the clock keeps getting reset on Antoni. He's been here almost 4 years and it's still unfair to judge him on anything. Although it's never too early to extend his contract apparently.
you let me know if your new restaurant would want a LOT less than ideal food and ingredients to work with and be judged or if after you had to deal with that circumstance you would want something more to your liking and then be judged.
martin wrote:holfresh wrote:What has he done here to warrant an extension?
when you give a gourmet cook nothing but hotdogs, powdered egg whites and water and say go, what do you expect?
And if you finally give that cook ingredients to work with and ask what has he done to warrant an extension, you are asking the wrong question.
If I were the chef that was given 2 full years to get my kitchen and staff in order before I received my top quality ingredients, you can bet my kitchen would be firing as soon as those ingredients came in. It wouldn't be almost another 2 years later where I was hoping that some old crabmeat, that might be past their prime (BD), could come in and tie together my pork belly (Amare) and foie gras (Melo) together. Getting a mystery box filled with caviar (Lin) shouldn't have been what saved the restaurant.
martin wrote:islesfan wrote:It's amazing how the clock keeps getting reset on Antoni. He's been here almost 4 years and it's still unfair to judge him on anything. Although it's never too early to extend his contract apparently.
you let me know if your new restaurant would want a LOT less than ideal food and ingredients to work with and be judged or if after you had to deal with that circumstance you would want something more to your liking and then be judged.
If I knew my restaurant needed a specific ingredient before my kitchen could produce the food I wanted, I would make sure I got that first. It wouldn't be an afterthought. I wouldn't be praying that some past their prime ingredient, like BD, would save me.
isles, MDA hasn't had much more than 4 months with 1 competent group of ingredients.
MDA is not GM and coach. He is the coach who has had caca ingredients til last year. And then he had it switched up.
Until 2 weeks ago he didn't get his main ingredient to work with.
martin wrote:isles, MDA hasn't had much more than 4 months with 1 competent group of ingredients. MDA is not GM and coach. He is the coach who has had caca ingredients til last year. And then he had it switched up.
Until 2 weeks ago he didn't get his main ingredient to work with.
I guess the best way to keep your job long term is to have a sh1tty GM that keeps delivering a sh1tty roster 
I don't want him fired or extended. I just want him to prove himself through the playoffs and if successful, extend him. Not before!! No GIFTS!
mrKnickShot wrote:martin wrote:isles, MDA hasn't had much more than 4 months with 1 competent group of ingredients. MDA is not GM and coach. He is the coach who has had caca ingredients til last year. And then he had it switched up.
Until 2 weeks ago he didn't get his main ingredient to work with.
I guess the best way to keep your job long term is to have a sh1tty GM that keeps delivering a sh1tty roster
I don't want him fired or extended. I just want him to prove himself through the playoffs and if successful, extend him. Not before!! No GIFTS!
You always want to take circumstance into long term thinking.
No reason to extend MDA until after playoffs. That's reasonable too.
martin wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:martin wrote:isles, MDA hasn't had much more than 4 months with 1 competent group of ingredients. MDA is not GM and coach. He is the coach who has had caca ingredients til last year. And then he had it switched up.
Until 2 weeks ago he didn't get his main ingredient to work with.
I guess the best way to keep your job long term is to have a sh1tty GM that keeps delivering a sh1tty roster
I don't want him fired or extended. I just want him to prove himself through the playoffs and if successful, extend him. Not before!! No GIFTS!
You always want to take circumstance into long term thinking.
No reason to extend MDA until after playoffs. That's reasonable too.
Then we are in agreement 
Lets hope he succeeds. Every coach needs to get a bit lucky to win - looks like he hit the jackpot. Lets see him ride it.
MDA has been a good coach and had BAD LUCK in some of his playoff series in the past. He easily could've won if he had a few breaks in the past. So maybe he was unlucky and the breaks finally went his way for a change. He already proved himself before. He won titles in Europe and got the WCF's without STAT and with no Center. Dude can coach and whether he gets extended early or after the season doesn't matter.
nixluva wrote:MDA has been a good coach and had BAD LUCK in some of his playoff series in the past. He easily could've won if he had a few breaks in the past. So maybe he was unlucky and the breaks finally went his way for a change. He already proved himself before. He won titles in Europe and got the WCF's without STAT and with no Center. Dude can coach and whether he gets extended early or after the season doesn't matter.
Get off Antoni's **** already. His wife is getting mad jealous.
islesfan wrote:nixluva wrote:MDA has been a good coach and had BAD LUCK in some of his playoff series in the past. He easily could've won if he had a few breaks in the past. So maybe he was unlucky and the breaks finally went his way for a change. He already proved himself before. He won titles in Europe and got the WCF's without STAT and with no Center. Dude can coach and whether he gets extended early or after the season doesn't matter.
Get off Antoni's **** already. His wife is getting mad jealous.
I'm a big D'Antoni supporter. There's no secret here. I back up what I say with facts. What have you got?
nixluva wrote:islesfan wrote:nixluva wrote:MDA has been a good coach and had BAD LUCK in some of his playoff series in the past. He easily could've won if he had a few breaks in the past. So maybe he was unlucky and the breaks finally went his way for a change. He already proved himself before. He won titles in Europe and got the WCF's without STAT and with no Center. Dude can coach and whether he gets extended early or after the season doesn't matter.
Get off Antoni's **** already. His wife is getting mad jealous.
I'm a big D'Antoni supporter. There's no secret here. I back up what I say with facts. What have you got?
Like John Hinckley was a Jodie Foster supporter ...
islesfan wrote:martin wrote:holfresh wrote:What has he done here to warrant an extension?
when you give a gourmet cook nothing but hotdogs, powdered egg whites and water and say go, what do you expect?
And if you finally give that cook ingredients to work with and ask what has he done to warrant an extension, you are asking the wrong question.
If I were the chef that was given 2 full years to get my kitchen and staff in order before I received my top quality ingredients, you can bet my kitchen would be firing as soon as those ingredients came in. It wouldn't be almost another 2 years later where I was hoping that some old crabmeat, that might be past their prime (BD), could come in and tie together my pork belly (Amare) and foie gras (Melo) together. Getting a mystery box filled with caviar (Lin) shouldn't have been what saved the restaurant.
LOL, now I'm just hungry.........What was the question???
Man, I don't care what saved the restaurant. So long as we (fans) aren't getting food poisoning from it.
BasketballJones wrote:Man, I don't care what saved the restaurant. So long as we (fans) aren't getting food poisoning from it.
food fight?!
The secret ingredient is.....Lin!
islesfan wrote:martin wrote:holfresh wrote:What has he done here to warrant an extension?
when you give a gourmet cook nothing but hotdogs, powdered egg whites and water and say go, what do you expect?
And if you finally give that cook ingredients to work with and ask what has he done to warrant an extension, you are asking the wrong question.
If I were the chef that was given 2 full years to get my kitchen and staff in order before I received my top quality ingredients, you can bet my kitchen would be firing as soon as those ingredients came in. It wouldn't be almost another 2 years later where I was hoping that some old crabmeat, that might be past their prime (BD), could come in and tie together my pork belly (Amare) and foie gras (Melo) together. Getting a mystery box filled with caviar (Lin) shouldn't have been what saved the restaurant.
How about if you were the chef and you were given new ingredients in addititon to the bland ingredients mentioned. In addition, your boss brought those ingredients in and told you that after your second year the restaurant would no longer have those bland ingredients. Would you continue to use the bland ingredients and not use any of the ingredients that your boss brought in to be used in his vision of your future restaurant? How about if your restaurant was failing horribly? Would you still refuse to change? Also, can you imagine how humiliated you would feel if food distributors of the best ingredients rejected you because your style of cooking was too bland and focused on only one spice? The ultimate humiliation would be when you had to have a reconciliation meeting with the distributor for the food that did best with the spice you liked to use before he would sell his food to your boss.
