Knicks · Bottom Line with Mike D'Antoni (page 4)

eViL @ 2/16/2012 12:51 AM
islesfan wrote:
Nalod wrote:
loweyecue wrote:No take out Chinese jokes please.

Asian Fusion!

Isles has yet to say who his mystical new coach would be.

Mike Woodson Interim Head Coach

Then see who's available after the season.

I hear Larry Brown wants back in.

stick to cooking, duke.

Knicks are finding their groove in the offense, MDA finally has his PG, and this time he also has his closer and his defensive anchor, but your hatred for him is so strong you wanna switch to a guy whose entire scheme in Atlanta was "let Joe Johnson dribble in place for 20 seconds and then shoot"??

GoNyGoNyGo @ 2/16/2012 7:10 AM
If MDA doesn't win with this group, he will never win.

This team has a chance. Every team needs a little luck. San Antonio tanked and got Duncan. The Knicks luck is getting Lin. A nobody who fits the system and actually has talent on top of it. IT gives opposing Defenses one more thing to worry about and with the offense the Knicks run that is critical.

The Knicks will do great as long as they keep playing D, when Melo and STAT get back to playing big minutes.

fishmike @ 2/16/2012 7:16 AM
wheres the option that says "one of the most amazing sports stories in decades is happening on my team but Im too big a douche to enjoy it, so instead I hate on the coach"
Nalod @ 2/16/2012 7:19 AM
Isles,

Bring in an interm coach? Why, is the team not playing well?

Isiah lost his team. The turned him off.

This team plays for its coach. Not for Isles.

CashMoney @ 2/16/2012 7:54 AM
If the Knicks make a playof run, ECF or Finals they he gets an extension. I think anything other than that and MDA is out the door.
MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 2/16/2012 7:57 AM
CashMoney wrote:If the Knicks make a playof run, ECF or Finals they he gets an extension. I think anything other than that and MDA is out the door.

Lol. Yea and .let's bring Patrick ewing in.

MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 2/16/2012 8:01 AM
Lin takes a step back if not in mda's system. Not saying he won't ball hard, but he stands to grow more with MDA than with Patrick ewing as coach. Keep that in mind when irrationally bashing MDA because you dislike his mustache.
Nalod @ 2/16/2012 8:11 AM

The little emperors speaking:

"either he goes deep in the playoffs and pleases me, or remove him!"

"Bring me fresh hope!"

"Bring me Phil Jax and pay the man what he wants!"

But, lets be reasonable. We have 36 games. Team needs to adapt Melo and Baron in to the flow.

It will have some bumps no doubt.

Playoffs? I'd like to determine his status depending on the seeding we get and who we go against.

And I 'd like to access our health. Last year we crawled into the playoffs and we were cooked. I expected very little so my senses were not offended as some were. This year I would hope we are a team "Gel-Lin" and healthy.

Endorsement: "MDA is an offensive genius!" olympic head coach K

He can pick anyone, he picks MDA to blend his team to work as a unit.

Bottom line with Dolan is MSG makes money. They make money by winning and entertaining.

Team is doing both now.

nyk4ever @ 2/16/2012 8:55 AM
i would love to see the combo of phil jackson and lin then all the jackson nuthuggers can complain how jackson made lin take a step back.

it's simple. lin is a perfect fit for mda's system, there's no question about it. the knicks are actually playing defense now and whether or not you want to attriubute that to mda or not, he's the head coach and they are playing very good defense. why would we change a damn thing? just because the team sucked the past few years and mda didn't squeeze 5 more collective wins out of them?

Bonn1997 @ 2/16/2012 9:01 AM
Some people don't know how to do anything but complain
MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 2/16/2012 9:06 AM
nyk4ever wrote:i would love to see the combo of phil jackson and lin then all the jackson nuthuggers can complain how jackson made lin take a step back.

it's simple. lin is a perfect fit for mda's system, there's no question about it. the knicks are actually playing defense now and whether or not you want to attriubute that to mda or not, he's the head coach and they are playing very good defense. why would we change a damn thing? just because the team sucked the past few years and mda didn't squeeze 5 more collective wins out of them?

Among the craziest shit I read was "he sucks because he didn't overachieve at all here" yea if we only won 34 instead of 29 that one year, he would warrant an extension Hahahahaha

BasketballJones @ 2/16/2012 9:47 AM
fishmike wrote:wheres the option that says "one of the most amazing sports stories in decades is happening on my team but Im too big a douche to enjoy it, so instead I hate on the coach"
islesfan @ 2/16/2012 12:08 PM
fishmike wrote:wheres the option that says "one of the most amazing sports stories in decades is happening on my team but Im too big a douche to enjoy it, so instead I hate on the coach"

I beg to differ. I'm enjoying this as much as anybody. The fact that I'm thinking as big as a championship should tell you that I've bought in on the players on this team (in fact I've been one of the few defending the makeup of the team while others still pine for the New York Nuggets). With Antoni being a lame duck coach, and with you claiming in another thread that extending his contract is the only option at this point, I thought it was a very legitimate topic to discuss whether or not Antoni was the right coach for this team as it hopes to compete for a championship.

Just because I can separate the two issues and not be pollyannaish like you and others that doesn't mean that I'm not enjoying the Jeremy Lin story.

fishmike @ 2/16/2012 12:18 PM
islesfan wrote:
fishmike wrote:wheres the option that says "one of the most amazing sports stories in decades is happening on my team but Im too big a douche to enjoy it, so instead I hate on the coach"

I beg to differ. I'm enjoying this as much as anybody. The fact that I'm thinking as big as a championship should tell you that I've bought in on the players on this team (in fact I've been one of the few defending the makeup of the team while others still pine for the New York Nuggets). With Antoni being a lame duck coach, and with you claiming in another thread that extending his contract is the only option at this point, I thought it was a very legitimate topic to discuss whether or not Antoni was the right coach for this team as it hopes to compete for a championship.

Just because I can separate the two issues and not be pollyannaish like you and others that doesn't mean that I'm not enjoying the Jeremy Lin story.

if your enjoying then enjoy. You sound like a powerball winner bitching about the taxes. Nobody cares.

Also your suggest of Woodson as an interim coach stinks. He's got a losing record in regular and post season. When you find someone better let me know.

Your like a fish out of water here... running out of things to throw mud about.

islesfan @ 2/16/2012 12:29 PM
fishmike wrote:
islesfan wrote:
fishmike wrote:wheres the option that says "one of the most amazing sports stories in decades is happening on my team but Im too big a douche to enjoy it, so instead I hate on the coach"

I beg to differ. I'm enjoying this as much as anybody. The fact that I'm thinking as big as a championship should tell you that I've bought in on the players on this team (in fact I've been one of the few defending the makeup of the team while others still pine for the New York Nuggets). With Antoni being a lame duck coach, and with you claiming in another thread that extending his contract is the only option at this point, I thought it was a very legitimate topic to discuss whether or not Antoni was the right coach for this team as it hopes to compete for a championship.

Just because I can separate the two issues and not be pollyannaish like you and others that doesn't mean that I'm not enjoying the Jeremy Lin story.

if your enjoying then enjoy. You sound like a powerball winner bitching about the taxes. Nobody cares.

Also your suggest of Woodson as an interim coach stinks. He's got a losing record in regular and post season. When you find someone better let me know.

Your like a fish out of water here... running out of things to throw mud about.

Wait a minute. I'm only allowed to enjoy this the way you want me to enjoy it?

It's ok for you to say "Extend D'Antoni!" but it's not ok for me to question whether or not he's the right coach to take us to a championship?

fishmike @ 2/16/2012 12:36 PM
islesfan wrote:
fishmike wrote:
islesfan wrote:
fishmike wrote:wheres the option that says "one of the most amazing sports stories in decades is happening on my team but Im too big a douche to enjoy it, so instead I hate on the coach"

I beg to differ. I'm enjoying this as much as anybody. The fact that I'm thinking as big as a championship should tell you that I've bought in on the players on this team (in fact I've been one of the few defending the makeup of the team while others still pine for the New York Nuggets). With Antoni being a lame duck coach, and with you claiming in another thread that extending his contract is the only option at this point, I thought it was a very legitimate topic to discuss whether or not Antoni was the right coach for this team as it hopes to compete for a championship.

Just because I can separate the two issues and not be pollyannaish like you and others that doesn't mean that I'm not enjoying the Jeremy Lin story.

if your enjoying then enjoy. You sound like a powerball winner bitching about the taxes. Nobody cares.

Also your suggest of Woodson as an interim coach stinks. He's got a losing record in regular and post season. When you find someone better let me know.

Your like a fish out of water here... running out of things to throw mud about.

Wait a minute. I'm only allowed to enjoy this the way you want me to enjoy it?

It's ok for you to say "Extend D'Antoni!" but it's not ok for me to question whether or not he's the right coach to take us to a championship?

sure... just like its ok to question whether your wife is the right woman to raise your children. Only your doing it when she's 8 mos pregnant.

You can question anything you want but your timing is not appropriate.

The season is turning around the there is an more excitement around this team then... well, then ever.
So NO. You cant. Bring it up at the end of the season when its appropriate to evaluate how this coach navigated this season and what the results were.

islesfan @ 2/16/2012 12:40 PM
fishmike wrote:
islesfan wrote:
fishmike wrote:
islesfan wrote:
fishmike wrote:wheres the option that says "one of the most amazing sports stories in decades is happening on my team but Im too big a douche to enjoy it, so instead I hate on the coach"

I beg to differ. I'm enjoying this as much as anybody. The fact that I'm thinking as big as a championship should tell you that I've bought in on the players on this team (in fact I've been one of the few defending the makeup of the team while others still pine for the New York Nuggets). With Antoni being a lame duck coach, and with you claiming in another thread that extending his contract is the only option at this point, I thought it was a very legitimate topic to discuss whether or not Antoni was the right coach for this team as it hopes to compete for a championship.

Just because I can separate the two issues and not be pollyannaish like you and others that doesn't mean that I'm not enjoying the Jeremy Lin story.

if your enjoying then enjoy. You sound like a powerball winner bitching about the taxes. Nobody cares.

Also your suggest of Woodson as an interim coach stinks. He's got a losing record in regular and post season. When you find someone better let me know.

Your like a fish out of water here... running out of things to throw mud about.

Wait a minute. I'm only allowed to enjoy this the way you want me to enjoy it?

It's ok for you to say "Extend D'Antoni!" but it's not ok for me to question whether or not he's the right coach to take us to a championship?

sure... just like its ok to question whether your wife is the right woman to raise your children. Only your doing it when she's 8 mos pregnant.

You can question anything you want but your timing is not appropriate.

The season is turning around the there is an more excitement around this team then... well, then ever.
So NO. You cant. Bring it up at the end of the season when its appropriate to evaluate how this coach navigated this season and what the results were.

That's just an awful analogy. I don't even know where to begin.

Antoni is a lame duck coach with only a few months left on his contract. Why was it the right time for you to say "extend him" but it's not the right time for me to question it?

JrZyHuStLa @ 2/16/2012 12:49 PM
As good as the Jeremy Lin story is for the game, the city, and the fans, its a major setback in terms of this team doing what is necesary.

And that is firing Mike D'antoni.

AnubisADL @ 2/16/2012 12:54 PM
If D'Antoni gets fired Mike Woodson will get promoted to head coach or Phil Jackson will be brought in.

If Mike Woodson takes over we will likely run the same system with some modifications. Mike Woodson got to learn the system for a full season and see where improvements can be made.

Option 2 is bringing in the proven Phil Jackson and the triangle system. We'd have a full training camp to work on things too.

In either case I dont see Mike D'Antoni coming back unless we go to the ECF.

mrKnickShot @ 2/16/2012 12:54 PM
fishmike wrote:
islesfan wrote:
fishmike wrote:
islesfan wrote:
fishmike wrote:wheres the option that says "one of the most amazing sports stories in decades is happening on my team but Im too big a douche to enjoy it, so instead I hate on the coach"

I beg to differ. I'm enjoying this as much as anybody. The fact that I'm thinking as big as a championship should tell you that I've bought in on the players on this team (in fact I've been one of the few defending the makeup of the team while others still pine for the New York Nuggets). With Antoni being a lame duck coach, and with you claiming in another thread that extending his contract is the only option at this point, I thought it was a very legitimate topic to discuss whether or not Antoni was the right coach for this team as it hopes to compete for a championship.

Just because I can separate the two issues and not be pollyannaish like you and others that doesn't mean that I'm not enjoying the Jeremy Lin story.

if your enjoying then enjoy. You sound like a powerball winner bitching about the taxes. Nobody cares.

Also your suggest of Woodson as an interim coach stinks. He's got a losing record in regular and post season. When you find someone better let me know.

Your like a fish out of water here... running out of things to throw mud about.

Wait a minute. I'm only allowed to enjoy this the way you want me to enjoy it?

It's ok for you to say "Extend D'Antoni!" but it's not ok for me to question whether or not he's the right coach to take us to a championship?

sure... just like its ok to question whether your wife is the right woman to raise your children. Only your doing it when she's 8 mos pregnant.

You can question anything you want but your timing is not appropriate.

The season is turning around the there is an more excitement around this team then... well, then ever.
So NO. You cant. Bring it up at the end of the season when its appropriate to evaluate how this coach navigated this season and what the results were.

Fishmike, is this not a question if he should be extended or not? I would like if they gauged his coaching through the playoffs and made the decision then. If the suggestion is put forth to extend him now, then this is a valid topic / argument NOW. No?

nixluva @ 2/16/2012 1:03 PM
Mike D'Antoni is a very good coach that has been put in some very difficult situations here. All the damage done to his image doesn't change the fact that he's one of the best coaches in the world. The only thing you can really hold against him is the 1st 2 years here when the team was looking to clear cap space.

The young team we had to start the year last year came together and was a playoff team even before the trade. Not many coaches could keep their sanity during such a massive amount of change. Now that we're starting to put it all together I think this is what the original vision was when they brought D'Antoni here. They signed him to coach this team we have now.

The team held together during the losing this year and is now playing at a higher level. Who knows how good they can be by the time the playoffs get here. Lin and MDA make a great tandem. Imagine how good Lin can get spending even more time with MDA and learning to master the game like Nash has?

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