Knicks · The More Things Change, the More They Remain the Same. (page 2)

JCrusher @ 3/6/2012 11:18 PM
Uptown wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:my biggest knock on MDA is how he keeps telling melo to take lots of bad shots and mess up our spacing.

He's not a coach you get to micromanage the action on the floor.

He's a free-flowing coach, everyone knew this. And what does the franchise do? Gives him one of the few star players in the league that requires micromanaging on the floor.

Every other guy on our roster can play MDA ball except for The One Guy.

But now it's D'Antoni's fault?

Come on.

Team wins when they play D'Antoni's style. This is a fact.

8-1 is 1/7th of the season, that's a significant chunk.

It makes no sense that they win 8 out of 9 games then go 2-4 or 2-5 or whatever they are now after Melo returns. IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE COACH THAT CHANGED, BUT THE PLAYER HE IS BEING FORCED TO PLAY.

Let's get real.

Dude, how do you keep looking at different equations, yet you get the same answer? Its not black and white. These coaches are paid millions, think they are not looking at game film and studying Lin's tendencies? They are playing him differently. Not only that but these teams are different, Boston, Dallas a second time around around, miami, etc. That JJ, Walker and Lin lineup was not beating those teams.

dude they beat the lakers and the mavs lol did you miss thsoe games
MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 3/6/2012 11:19 PM
Give me a f'ckn break, Uptown. Get off Melo's.
CrushAlot @ 3/6/2012 11:20 PM
Uptown wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:my biggest knock on MDA is how he keeps telling melo to take lots of bad shots and mess up our spacing.

He's not a coach you get to micromanage the action on the floor.

He's a free-flowing coach, everyone knew this. And what does the franchise do? Gives him one of the few star players in the league that requires micromanaging on the floor.

Every other guy on our roster can play MDA ball except for The One Guy.

But now it's D'Antoni's fault?

Come on.

Team wins when they play D'Antoni's style. This is a fact.

8-1 is 1/7th of the season, that's a significant chunk.

It makes no sense that they win 8 out of 9 games then go 2-4 or 2-5 or whatever they are now after Melo returns. IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE COACH THAT CHANGED, BUT THE PLAYER HE IS BEING FORCED TO PLAY.

Let's get real.

Dude, how do you keep looking at different equations, yet you get the same answer? Its not black and white. These coaches are paid millions, think they are not looking at game film and studying Lin's tendencies? They are playing him differently. Not only that but these teams are different, Boston, Dallas a second time around around, miami, etc. That JJ, Walker and Lin lineup was not beating those teams.

Here is the scariest part about that statement. The Knicks did not employ advance scouting for the first two years D'Antoni was here and he was being paid millions of dollars.
JCrusher @ 3/6/2012 11:20 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Give me a f'ckn break, Uptown. Get off Melo's.
There are a couple guys who see melo had like 6 pts and missed 10 wide open layups and yet he is great lol
MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 3/6/2012 11:21 PM
JCrusher wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Give me a f'ckn break, Uptown. Get off Melo's.
There are a couple guys who see melo had like 6 pts and missed 10 wide open layups and yet he is great lol

The craziest is that they will invent a million reasons why it's all on MDA.

My whole thing is, it's not on Melo or MDA; it's that they can't work together so you have choose one.

I prefer MDA ball, that's no secret; this board was HYPED when Knicks were playing MDA ball and Lin was leading us to an 8-1 record.

martin @ 3/6/2012 11:22 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:my biggest knock on MDA is how he keeps telling melo to take lots of bad shots and mess up our spacing.

He's not a coach you get to micromanage the action on the floor.

He's a free-flowing coach, everyone knew this. And what does the franchise do? Gives him one of the few star players in the league that requires micromanaging on the floor.

Every other guy on our roster can play MDA ball except for The One Guy.

But now it's D'Antoni's fault?

Come on.

Team wins when they play D'Antoni's style. This is a fact.

8-1 is 1/7th of the season, that's a significant chunk.

It makes no sense that they win 8 out of 9 games then go 2-4 or 2-5 or whatever they are now after Melo returns. IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE COACH THAT CHANGED, BUT THE PLAYER HE IS BEING FORCED TO PLAY.

Let's get real.

Dude, how do you keep looking at different equations, yet you get the same answer? Its not black and white. These coaches are paid millions, think they are not looking at game film and studying Lin's tendencies? They are playing him differently. Not only that but these teams are different, Boston, Dallas a second time around around, miami, etc. That JJ, Walker and Lin lineup was not beating those teams.

Here is the scariest part about that statement. The Knicks did not employ advance scouting for the first two years D'Antoni was here and he was being paid millions of dollars.

wait a minute. The coach hires advanced scouts? or the GM/organization does?

I didnt know coaches took their own salary and hired the scouts, cause that's what you are implying.

mrKnickShot @ 3/6/2012 11:26 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:my biggest knock on MDA is how he keeps telling melo to take lots of bad shots and mess up our spacing.

He's not a coach you get to micromanage the action on the floor.

He's a free-flowing coach, everyone knew this. And what does the franchise do? Gives him one of the few star players in the league that requires micromanaging on the floor.

Every other guy on our roster can play MDA ball except for The One Guy.

But now it's D'Antoni's fault?

Come on.

Team wins when they play D'Antoni's style. This is a fact.

8-1 is 1/7th of the season, that's a significant chunk.

It makes no sense that they win 8 out of 9 games then go 2-4 or 2-5 or whatever they are now after Melo returns. IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE COACH THAT CHANGED, BUT THE PLAYER HE IS BEING FORCED TO PLAY.

Let's get real.

It's really funny how you can't see what teams figured out from Miami. Everyone is trapping and stopping the ball. The player who set the phantom pick has cut to the hoop and bang! Offense sputters.

Melo had a bad game and is not playing well but what teams are doing to the knicks has nothing to do with Melo. In fact, without Melo, the knicks get killed in Boston.

No adjustments to the trap is the issue right now that is most alarming.

1b. Switching Defense

2. Knicks can't catch the phuckin rock

3. Melo can't hit shots

4. JR can't hit shots

5 Shump needs more minutes

6. Baron sux

7. Tyson is hurt

8. we need more ISO's

CrushAlot @ 3/6/2012 11:27 PM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:my biggest knock on MDA is how he keeps telling melo to take lots of bad shots and mess up our spacing.

He's not a coach you get to micromanage the action on the floor.

He's a free-flowing coach, everyone knew this. And what does the franchise do? Gives him one of the few star players in the league that requires micromanaging on the floor.

Every other guy on our roster can play MDA ball except for The One Guy.

But now it's D'Antoni's fault?

Come on.

Team wins when they play D'Antoni's style. This is a fact.

8-1 is 1/7th of the season, that's a significant chunk.

It makes no sense that they win 8 out of 9 games then go 2-4 or 2-5 or whatever they are now after Melo returns. IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE COACH THAT CHANGED, BUT THE PLAYER HE IS BEING FORCED TO PLAY.

Let's get real.

Dude, how do you keep looking at different equations, yet you get the same answer? Its not black and white. These coaches are paid millions, think they are not looking at game film and studying Lin's tendencies? They are playing him differently. Not only that but these teams are different, Boston, Dallas a second time around around, miami, etc. That JJ, Walker and Lin lineup was not beating those teams.

Here is the scariest part about that statement. The Knicks did not employ advance scouting for the first two years D'Antoni was here and he was being paid millions of dollars.

wait a minute. The coach hires advanced scouts? or the GM/organization does?

I didnt know coaches took their own salary and hired the scouts, cause that's what you are implying.

I know that coaches were calling out D'Antoni for not using scouts or not watching game tapes because he wouldn't be prepared for changes they made weeks prior to playing to the Knicks. I linked to the article at least ten times and Andrew finally posted an article saying that the Knicks had started scouting again and preparing packets for players about opposing players tendencies in the 10-11 season. If you are suggesting that the former gm of the Pacers didn't value scouting and adjusting to make a point I don't think you succeeded.
nixluva @ 3/6/2012 11:28 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Give me a f'ckn break, Uptown. Get off Melo's.
There are a couple guys who see melo had like 6 pts and missed 10 wide open layups and yet he is great lol

The craziest is that they will invent a million reasons why it's all on MDA.

My whole thing is, it's not on Melo or MDA; it's that they can't work together so you have choose one.

I prefer MDA ball, that's no secret; this board was HYPED when Knicks were playing MDA ball and Lin was leading us to an 8-1 record.

It's amazing how obtuse MDA haterz can be after what we saw this team doing during Linsanity and then now after everyone came back and things don't look the same. MDA can't just not play Melo or the 11 guys deep. This is not an easy thing to do mid season. People think you just click a switch and it all just works.

There gonna have some struggles trying to get on the same page. Lin has only had 13 starts and only a few games with everyone back!!! That's a lot of change to absorb. Then we're trying to work in Davis, JR and even Jorts. This is not an easy thing to do. Teams aren't beating us as much as the Knicks are beating themselves. It's the Knicks that have to play better. We've stunk on offense all year except for Linsanity. During that stretch things looked the way they're supposed to.

martin @ 3/6/2012 11:29 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:my biggest knock on MDA is how he keeps telling melo to take lots of bad shots and mess up our spacing.

He's not a coach you get to micromanage the action on the floor.

He's a free-flowing coach, everyone knew this. And what does the franchise do? Gives him one of the few star players in the league that requires micromanaging on the floor.

Every other guy on our roster can play MDA ball except for The One Guy.

But now it's D'Antoni's fault?

Come on.

Team wins when they play D'Antoni's style. This is a fact.

8-1 is 1/7th of the season, that's a significant chunk.

It makes no sense that they win 8 out of 9 games then go 2-4 or 2-5 or whatever they are now after Melo returns. IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE COACH THAT CHANGED, BUT THE PLAYER HE IS BEING FORCED TO PLAY.

Let's get real.

Dude, how do you keep looking at different equations, yet you get the same answer? Its not black and white. These coaches are paid millions, think they are not looking at game film and studying Lin's tendencies? They are playing him differently. Not only that but these teams are different, Boston, Dallas a second time around around, miami, etc. That JJ, Walker and Lin lineup was not beating those teams.

Here is the scariest part about that statement. The Knicks did not employ advance scouting for the first two years D'Antoni was here and he was being paid millions of dollars.

wait a minute. The coach hires advanced scouts? or the GM/organization does?

I didnt know coaches took their own salary and hired the scouts, cause that's what you are implying.

I know that coaches were calling out D'Antoni for not using scouts or not watching game tapes because he wouldn't be prepared for changes they made weeks prior to playing to the Knicks. I linked to the article at least ten times and Andrew finally posted an article saying that the Knicks had started scouting again and preparing packets for players about opposing players tendencies in the 10-11 season. If you are suggesting that the former gm of the Pacers didn't value scouting and adjusting to make a point I don't think you succeeded.

you implied that the coach didn't hire scouts. Is that what you are saying?

MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 3/6/2012 11:30 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:my biggest knock on MDA is how he keeps telling melo to take lots of bad shots and mess up our spacing.

He's not a coach you get to micromanage the action on the floor.

He's a free-flowing coach, everyone knew this. And what does the franchise do? Gives him one of the few star players in the league that requires micromanaging on the floor.

Every other guy on our roster can play MDA ball except for The One Guy.

But now it's D'Antoni's fault?

Come on.

Team wins when they play D'Antoni's style. This is a fact.

8-1 is 1/7th of the season, that's a significant chunk.

It makes no sense that they win 8 out of 9 games then go 2-4 or 2-5 or whatever they are now after Melo returns. IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE COACH THAT CHANGED, BUT THE PLAYER HE IS BEING FORCED TO PLAY.

Let's get real.

It's really funny how you can't see what teams figured out from Miami. Everyone is trapping and stopping the ball. The player who set the phantom pick has cut to the hoop and bang! Offense sputters.

Melo had a bad game and is not playing well but what teams are doing to the knicks has nothing to do with Melo. In fact, without Melo, the knicks get killed in Boston.

No adjustments to the trap is the issue right now that is most alarming.

1b. Switching Defense

2. Knicks can't catch the phuckin rock

3. Melo can't hit shots

4. JR can't hit shots

5 Shump needs more minutes

6. Baron sux

7. Tyson is hurt

8. we need more ISO's

Guy. This isn't about what anyone figured out.

This is the NBA, teams "figure" stuff out within a game or two. Early in the Lin Run, teams had him figured out. It's 2012- teams employ I don't even know how many people to do just this, every day. We're not shipping film reels accross the country, where it would take a season to figure a guy out.

The problem is much simpler.

nixluva @ 3/6/2012 11:31 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:my biggest knock on MDA is how he keeps telling melo to take lots of bad shots and mess up our spacing.

He's not a coach you get to micromanage the action on the floor.

He's a free-flowing coach, everyone knew this. And what does the franchise do? Gives him one of the few star players in the league that requires micromanaging on the floor.

Every other guy on our roster can play MDA ball except for The One Guy.

But now it's D'Antoni's fault?

Come on.

Team wins when they play D'Antoni's style. This is a fact.

8-1 is 1/7th of the season, that's a significant chunk.

It makes no sense that they win 8 out of 9 games then go 2-4 or 2-5 or whatever they are now after Melo returns. IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE COACH THAT CHANGED, BUT THE PLAYER HE IS BEING FORCED TO PLAY.

Let's get real.

Dude, how do you keep looking at different equations, yet you get the same answer? Its not black and white. These coaches are paid millions, think they are not looking at game film and studying Lin's tendencies? They are playing him differently. Not only that but these teams are different, Boston, Dallas a second time around around, miami, etc. That JJ, Walker and Lin lineup was not beating those teams.

Here is the scariest part about that statement. The Knicks did not employ advance scouting for the first two years D'Antoni was here and he was being paid millions of dollars.

wait a minute. The coach hires advanced scouts? or the GM/organization does?

I didnt know coaches took their own salary and hired the scouts, cause that's what you are implying.

I know that coaches were calling out D'Antoni for not using scouts or not watching game tapes because he wouldn't be prepared for changes they made weeks prior to playing to the Knicks. I linked to the article at least ten times and Andrew finally posted an article saying that the Knicks had started scouting again and preparing packets for players about opposing players tendencies in the 10-11 season. If you are suggesting that the former gm of the Pacers didn't value scouting and adjusting to make a point I don't think you succeeded.

Don't get too carried away with all this scout crap. Teams use video much more. With so little time between games scouting can only do so much. What we need is for our players to just play better period. It's not really about what they're doing. It's what the Knicks aren't doing that is making the difference.

nyk4ever @ 3/6/2012 11:31 PM
everybody's a snake, that's why i keep the grass cut- so i can see when they coming so i can heat their ass up.
MarburyAnd1Crossover @ 3/6/2012 11:31 PM
nixluva wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Give me a f'ckn break, Uptown. Get off Melo's.
There are a couple guys who see melo had like 6 pts and missed 10 wide open layups and yet he is great lol

The craziest is that they will invent a million reasons why it's all on MDA.

My whole thing is, it's not on Melo or MDA; it's that they can't work together so you have choose one.

I prefer MDA ball, that's no secret; this board was HYPED when Knicks were playing MDA ball and Lin was leading us to an 8-1 record.

It's amazing how obtuse MDA haterz can be after what we saw this team doing during Linsanity and then now after everyone came back and things don't look the same. MDA can't just not play Melo or the 11 guys deep. This is not an easy thing to do mid season. People think you just click a switch and it all just works.

There gonna have some struggles trying to get on the same page. Lin has only had 13 starts and only a few games with everyone back!!! That's a lot of change to absorb. Then we're trying to work in Davis, JR and even Jorts. This is not an easy thing to do. Teams aren't beating us as much as the Knicks are beating themselves. It's the Knicks that have to play better. We've stunk on offense all year except for Linsanity. During that stretch things looked the way they're supposed to.

Exactly, during that stretch the team looked like what we thought we would have when D'Antoni was hired.

CrushAlot @ 3/6/2012 11:32 PM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:my biggest knock on MDA is how he keeps telling melo to take lots of bad shots and mess up our spacing.

He's not a coach you get to micromanage the action on the floor.

He's a free-flowing coach, everyone knew this. And what does the franchise do? Gives him one of the few star players in the league that requires micromanaging on the floor.

Every other guy on our roster can play MDA ball except for The One Guy.

But now it's D'Antoni's fault?

Come on.

Team wins when they play D'Antoni's style. This is a fact.

8-1 is 1/7th of the season, that's a significant chunk.

It makes no sense that they win 8 out of 9 games then go 2-4 or 2-5 or whatever they are now after Melo returns. IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE COACH THAT CHANGED, BUT THE PLAYER HE IS BEING FORCED TO PLAY.

Let's get real.

Dude, how do you keep looking at different equations, yet you get the same answer? Its not black and white. These coaches are paid millions, think they are not looking at game film and studying Lin's tendencies? They are playing him differently. Not only that but these teams are different, Boston, Dallas a second time around around, miami, etc. That JJ, Walker and Lin lineup was not beating those teams.

Here is the scariest part about that statement. The Knicks did not employ advance scouting for the first two years D'Antoni was here and he was being paid millions of dollars.

wait a minute. The coach hires advanced scouts? or the GM/organization does?

I didnt know coaches took their own salary and hired the scouts, cause that's what you are implying.

I know that coaches were calling out D'Antoni for not using scouts or not watching game tapes because he wouldn't be prepared for changes they made weeks prior to playing to the Knicks. I linked to the article at least ten times and Andrew finally posted an article saying that the Knicks had started scouting again and preparing packets for players about opposing players tendencies in the 10-11 season. If you are suggesting that the former gm of the Pacers didn't value scouting and adjusting to make a point I don't think you succeeded.

you implied that the coach didn't hire scouts. Is that what you are saying?


If you think that is what I implied then I misled you. He didn't use them according to his peers and you could infer from Andrew's infromation that the scouts began preparing packets for players of opposing players tendencies in his third year that that was when scouting became a part of game preperation for the Knicks during his tenure here.
martin @ 3/6/2012 11:35 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:my biggest knock on MDA is how he keeps telling melo to take lots of bad shots and mess up our spacing.

He's not a coach you get to micromanage the action on the floor.

He's a free-flowing coach, everyone knew this. And what does the franchise do? Gives him one of the few star players in the league that requires micromanaging on the floor.

Every other guy on our roster can play MDA ball except for The One Guy.

But now it's D'Antoni's fault?

Come on.

Team wins when they play D'Antoni's style. This is a fact.

8-1 is 1/7th of the season, that's a significant chunk.

It makes no sense that they win 8 out of 9 games then go 2-4 or 2-5 or whatever they are now after Melo returns. IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE COACH THAT CHANGED, BUT THE PLAYER HE IS BEING FORCED TO PLAY.

Let's get real.

Dude, how do you keep looking at different equations, yet you get the same answer? Its not black and white. These coaches are paid millions, think they are not looking at game film and studying Lin's tendencies? They are playing him differently. Not only that but these teams are different, Boston, Dallas a second time around around, miami, etc. That JJ, Walker and Lin lineup was not beating those teams.

Here is the scariest part about that statement. The Knicks did not employ advance scouting for the first two years D'Antoni was here and he was being paid millions of dollars.

wait a minute. The coach hires advanced scouts? or the GM/organization does?

I didnt know coaches took their own salary and hired the scouts, cause that's what you are implying.

I know that coaches were calling out D'Antoni for not using scouts or not watching game tapes because he wouldn't be prepared for changes they made weeks prior to playing to the Knicks. I linked to the article at least ten times and Andrew finally posted an article saying that the Knicks had started scouting again and preparing packets for players about opposing players tendencies in the 10-11 season. If you are suggesting that the former gm of the Pacers didn't value scouting and adjusting to make a point I don't think you succeeded.

you implied that the coach didn't hire scouts. Is that what you are saying?


If you think that is what I implied then I misled you. He didn't use them according to his peers and you could infer from Andrew's infromation that the scouts began preparing packets for players of opposing players tendencies in his third year that that was when scouting became a part of game preperation for the Knicks during his tenure here.

sounds about right. That's the first year with Amare. Has nothing to do with the coach.

CrushAlot @ 3/6/2012 11:37 PM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:my biggest knock on MDA is how he keeps telling melo to take lots of bad shots and mess up our spacing.

He's not a coach you get to micromanage the action on the floor.

He's a free-flowing coach, everyone knew this. And what does the franchise do? Gives him one of the few star players in the league that requires micromanaging on the floor.

Every other guy on our roster can play MDA ball except for The One Guy.

But now it's D'Antoni's fault?

Come on.

Team wins when they play D'Antoni's style. This is a fact.

8-1 is 1/7th of the season, that's a significant chunk.

It makes no sense that they win 8 out of 9 games then go 2-4 or 2-5 or whatever they are now after Melo returns. IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE COACH THAT CHANGED, BUT THE PLAYER HE IS BEING FORCED TO PLAY.

Let's get real.

Dude, how do you keep looking at different equations, yet you get the same answer? Its not black and white. These coaches are paid millions, think they are not looking at game film and studying Lin's tendencies? They are playing him differently. Not only that but these teams are different, Boston, Dallas a second time around around, miami, etc. That JJ, Walker and Lin lineup was not beating those teams.

Here is the scariest part about that statement. The Knicks did not employ advance scouting for the first two years D'Antoni was here and he was being paid millions of dollars.

wait a minute. The coach hires advanced scouts? or the GM/organization does?

I didnt know coaches took their own salary and hired the scouts, cause that's what you are implying.

I know that coaches were calling out D'Antoni for not using scouts or not watching game tapes because he wouldn't be prepared for changes they made weeks prior to playing to the Knicks. I linked to the article at least ten times and Andrew finally posted an article saying that the Knicks had started scouting again and preparing packets for players about opposing players tendencies in the 10-11 season. If you are suggesting that the former gm of the Pacers didn't value scouting and adjusting to make a point I don't think you succeeded.

you implied that the coach didn't hire scouts. Is that what you are saying?


If you think that is what I implied then I misled you. He didn't use them according to his peers and you could infer from Andrew's infromation that the scouts began preparing packets for players of opposing players tendencies in his third year that that was when scouting became a part of game preperation for the Knicks during his tenure here.

sounds about right. That's the first year with Amare. Has nothing to do with the coach.

You should have a conversation with the coaches who were ridiculing him for not making adjustments to changes they made weeks before playing his team.
knicks1248 @ 3/6/2012 11:38 PM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:my biggest knock on MDA is how he keeps telling melo to take lots of bad shots and mess up our spacing.

He's not a coach you get to micromanage the action on the floor.

He's a free-flowing coach, everyone knew this. And what does the franchise do? Gives him one of the few star players in the league that requires micromanaging on the floor.

Every other guy on our roster can play MDA ball except for The One Guy.

But now it's D'Antoni's fault?

Come on.

Team wins when they play D'Antoni's style. This is a fact.

8-1 is 1/7th of the season, that's a significant chunk.

It makes no sense that they win 8 out of 9 games then go 2-4 or 2-5 or whatever they are now after Melo returns. IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE COACH THAT CHANGED, BUT THE PLAYER HE IS BEING FORCED TO PLAY.

Let's get real.

Dude, how do you keep looking at different equations, yet you get the same answer? Its not black and white. These coaches are paid millions, think they are not looking at game film and studying Lin's tendencies? They are playing him differently. Not only that but these teams are different, Boston, Dallas a second time around around, miami, etc. That JJ, Walker and Lin lineup was not beating those teams.

Here is the scariest part about that statement. The Knicks did not employ advance scouting for the first two years D'Antoni was here and he was being paid millions of dollars.

wait a minute. The coach hires advanced scouts? or the GM/organization does?

I didnt know coaches took their own salary and hired the scouts, cause that's what you are implying.

I know that coaches were calling out D'Antoni for not using scouts or not watching game tapes because he wouldn't be prepared for changes they made weeks prior to playing to the Knicks. I linked to the article at least ten times and Andrew finally posted an article saying that the Knicks had started scouting again and preparing packets for players about opposing players tendencies in the 10-11 season. If you are suggesting that the former gm of the Pacers didn't value scouting and adjusting to make a point I don't think you succeeded.

you implied that the coach didn't hire scouts. Is that what you are saying?

MDA is not a very well prepared coach..

martin @ 3/6/2012 11:42 PM
CrushAlot wrote:You should have a conversation with the coaches who were ridiculing him for not making adjustments to changes they made weeks before playing his team.

Crush, since you are so well versed in what coaches should be doing and what they are saying, please do tell me what teams and how many teams used advanced scouting. And how many scouts? All teams? Playoff teams? 1 scout? many scout?

Is this a Dolan decision? Donnie walsh? Coach decision?

Please inform me, because if you can't all of your assumptions are for shit.

CrushAlot @ 3/6/2012 11:44 PM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:You should have a conversation with the coaches who were ridiculing him for not making adjustments to changes they made weeks before playing his team.

Crush, since you are so well versed in what coaches should be doing and what they are saying, please do tell me what teams and how many teams used advanced scouting. And how many scouts? All teams? Playoff teams? 1 scout? many scout?

Is this a Dolan decision? Donnie walsh? Coach decision?

Please inform me, because if you can't all of your assumptions are for shit.


Get the search function working and most of your questions will be answered. This has all been covered before.
nixluva @ 3/6/2012 11:45 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:my biggest knock on MDA is how he keeps telling melo to take lots of bad shots and mess up our spacing.

He's not a coach you get to micromanage the action on the floor.

He's a free-flowing coach, everyone knew this. And what does the franchise do? Gives him one of the few star players in the league that requires micromanaging on the floor.

Every other guy on our roster can play MDA ball except for The One Guy.

But now it's D'Antoni's fault?

Come on.

Team wins when they play D'Antoni's style. This is a fact.

8-1 is 1/7th of the season, that's a significant chunk.

It makes no sense that they win 8 out of 9 games then go 2-4 or 2-5 or whatever they are now after Melo returns. IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE COACH THAT CHANGED, BUT THE PLAYER HE IS BEING FORCED TO PLAY.

Let's get real.

Dude, how do you keep looking at different equations, yet you get the same answer? Its not black and white. These coaches are paid millions, think they are not looking at game film and studying Lin's tendencies? They are playing him differently. Not only that but these teams are different, Boston, Dallas a second time around around, miami, etc. That JJ, Walker and Lin lineup was not beating those teams.

Here is the scariest part about that statement. The Knicks did not employ advance scouting for the first two years D'Antoni was here and he was being paid millions of dollars.

wait a minute. The coach hires advanced scouts? or the GM/organization does?

I didnt know coaches took their own salary and hired the scouts, cause that's what you are implying.

I know that coaches were calling out D'Antoni for not using scouts or not watching game tapes because he wouldn't be prepared for changes they made weeks prior to playing to the Knicks. I linked to the article at least ten times and Andrew finally posted an article saying that the Knicks had started scouting again and preparing packets for players about opposing players tendencies in the 10-11 season. If you are suggesting that the former gm of the Pacers didn't value scouting and adjusting to make a point I don't think you succeeded.

you implied that the coach didn't hire scouts. Is that what you are saying?

MDA is not a very well prepared coach..

So when he was winning 60+ games and going to the WCF's what was the excuse for the rest of the league? All this crap about not being prepared for what the other team does is silly. This team just has to learn how to execute better. Nash is still running the same PnR offense he has for years.

It's about Lin who is a baby still learning and developing his game. Kid has only played 13 NBA games as a starter!!! He went from nothing to having to setup STAT, Melo and Tyson against teams that have been to the finals!!! Now we're trying to work with 11 player rotations. This is just ridiculous.

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