This thread is not a knock on Stat or Melo.
Is it possible that they just don't play well together or don't mesh? Melo seems to do well at the 4 and Stat and Melo seem to do alot of the same things and get in each others way.
Hard to quantify any of this just like it was hard to say that the knicks were/are better off without Melo due to Linsanity but it is interesting watching Melo play without
Amare and will be interesting to see this for the rest of the way.
Tonight (vs Orlando) has been the best ball movement I've seen (with Melo on the floor) all season.
mrKnickShot wrote:This thread is not a knock on Stat or Melo.Is it possible that they just don't play well together or don't mesh? Melo seems to do well at the 4 and Stat and Melo seem to do alot of the same things and get in each others way.
Hard to quantify any of this just like it was hard to say that the knicks were/are better off without Melo due to Linsanity but it is interesting watching Melo play without
Amare and will be interesting to see this for the rest of the way.
Tonight (vs Orlando) has been the best ball movement I've seen (with Melo on the floor) all season.
We just won 6/7 with both of them, and they were starting to play great together. they can play together. The biggest difference is the D. On a night like tonight when everything is falling we look like the best team in the league.
This is what guys have been saying about our stars not complimenting each other.
It's a big part of the problem.
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:This is what guys have been saying about our stars not complimenting each other. It's a big part of the problem.
Well - teams have to mesh and they were winning together recently but do they compliment each other? They seem a bit too similar.
Pierce + Garnett
Kobe + Pau
they are very different and compliment each other.
MSG3 wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:This thread is not a knock on Stat or Melo.Is it possible that they just don't play well together or don't mesh? Melo seems to do well at the 4 and Stat and Melo seem to do alot of the same things and get in each others way.
Hard to quantify any of this just like it was hard to say that the knicks were/are better off without Melo due to Linsanity but it is interesting watching Melo play without
Amare and will be interesting to see this for the rest of the way.
Tonight (vs Orlando) has been the best ball movement I've seen (with Melo on the floor) all season.
We just won 6/7 with both of them, and they were starting to play great together. they can play together. The biggest difference is the D. On a night like tonight when everything is falling we look like the best team in the league.
Melo has not really played WELL before Stat got hurt. The last 2 games he has played excellent.
mrKnickShot wrote:MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:This is what guys have been saying about our stars not complimenting each other. It's a big part of the problem.
Well - teams have to mesh and they were winning together recently but do they compliment each other? They seem a bit too similar.
Pierce + Garnett
Kobe + Pau
they are very different and compliment each other.
could very well be it, but then again look at OKC and MIA. Durant and Westbrook as well as LeBron and Wade both need the ball to be at their best
SupremeCommander wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:This is what guys have been saying about our stars not complimenting each other. It's a big part of the problem.
Well - teams have to mesh and they were winning together recently but do they compliment each other? They seem a bit too similar.
Pierce + Garnett
Kobe + Pau
they are very different and compliment each other.
could very well be it, but then again look at OKC and MIA. Durant and Westbrook as well as LeBron and Wade both need the ball to be at their best
Lebron is a Hybrid and the closest thing you will ever see to a point forward - he loves to pass. Also, Wade is the goto guy in the clutch.
Wetbrook and Durant have had many issues and I am sure it will arise again. As long as they are winning and both scoring, things will be quiet. They lose three games in a row? Durant will start chirping like he did last year.
Bonn1997 wrote:It's a poorly thought out duo. Neither one is a good decision-maker. I can't imagine the two bringing out the best in each other.
Good discussion here: http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.as...
Bonn, where were you in the game thread? C'mon! So Melo had a good game - its not that bad 
mrKnickShot wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:This is what guys have been saying about our stars not complimenting each other. It's a big part of the problem.
Well - teams have to mesh and they were winning together recently but do they compliment each other? They seem a bit too similar.
Pierce + Garnett
Kobe + Pau
they are very different and compliment each other.
could very well be it, but then again look at OKC and MIA. Durant and Westbrook as well as LeBron and Wade both need the ball to be at their best
Lebron is a Hybrid and the closest thing you will ever see to a point forward - he loves to pass. Also, Wade is the goto guy in the clutch.
Wetbrook and Durant have had many issues and I am sure it will arise again. As long as they are winning and both scoring, things will be quiet. They lose three games in a row? Durant will start chirping like he did last year.
that was not the consensus when Wade and Bron joined forces. They have since evolved in their collaboration
I think that once Melo gets back to making shots and getting rid of that negative energy that has built up since the Linsanity run, they we be as good as Amare backs lets him play.
You see guys getting good looks off of any of our big threes offense. Melo/stat/lin
SupremeCommander wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:This is what guys have been saying about our stars not complimenting each other. It's a big part of the problem.
Well - teams have to mesh and they were winning together recently but do they compliment each other? They seem a bit too similar.
Pierce + Garnett
Kobe + Pau
they are very different and compliment each other.
could very well be it, but then again look at OKC and MIA. Durant and Westbrook as well as LeBron and Wade both need the ball to be at their best
Lebron is a Hybrid and the closest thing you will ever see to a point forward - he loves to pass. Also, Wade is the goto guy in the clutch.
Wetbrook and Durant have had many issues and I am sure it will arise again. As long as they are winning and both scoring, things will be quiet. They lose three games in a row? Durant will start chirping like he did last year.
that was not the consensus when Wade and Bron joined forces. They have since evolved in their collaboration
Yes - thats true. But they found a way to get it to click. I am sure it was not an easy process. And, that does not mean it will work for everyone
mrKnickShot wrote:This thread is not a knock on Stat or Melo.Is it possible that they just don't play well together or don't mesh? Melo seems to do well at the 4 and Stat and Melo seem to do alot of the same things and get in each others way.
Hard to quantify any of this just like it was hard to say that the knicks were/are better off without Melo due to Linsanity but it is interesting watching Melo play without
Amare and will be interesting to see this for the rest of the way.
Tonight (vs Orlando) has been the best ball movement I've seen (with Melo on the floor) all season.
That's probably why melo injured Amare's back.
BasketballJones wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:This thread is not a knock on Stat or Melo.Is it possible that they just don't play well together or don't mesh? Melo seems to do well at the 4 and Stat and Melo seem to do alot of the same things and get in each others way.
Hard to quantify any of this just like it was hard to say that the knicks were/are better off without Melo due to Linsanity but it is interesting watching Melo play without
Amare and will be interesting to see this for the rest of the way.
Tonight (vs Orlando) has been the best ball movement I've seen (with Melo on the floor) all season.
That's probably why melo injured Amare's back.
Hahaha - yeah, he threw an extra high alley oop pass 
i kind of agree. melo seems more comfortable and able to get the ball down where he wants it more with amar'e out.
crzymdups wrote:i kind of agree. melo seems more comfortable and able to get the ball down where he wants it more with amar'e out.
It also seems that the passing lanes are better when they are not clogged by Amare and Melo gets the double. The movement was great tonight. And if Melo is in the post, you can't have Tyson and Amare both within the arc. Tonight it was mostly all 3 point shooters plus Tyson playing together with Melo.
When one guy is out--it will open up more space for the other guy in the low block. So each can look better with one missing. It might not be a bad idea to use Amare as a sixth man when he comes back to take pressure of of him. We need the 5-4 in the 2nd unit who can score. Melo can rebound--so he can handle the hybrid 4 in the starting unit.
BRIGGS wrote:When one guy is out--it will open up more space for the other guy in the low block. So each can look better with one missing. It might not be a bad idea to use Amare as a sixth man when he comes back to take pressure of of him. We need the 5-4 in the 2nd unit who can score. Melo can rebound--so he can handle the hybrid 4 in the starting unit.
Don't think Stat would go for that though I don't disagree. Melo is actually a better rebounder than STAT
You guys forget the game(Sixer?) Where Melo and STAT played great down the stretch When the Knicks went small with STAT at the 5 and Melo at the 4. They played well together over the Woody games because Woody will feature them both. The problem was that neither had their shot going but hopefully they both will be working from now on.
yellowboy90 wrote:You guys forget the game(Sixer?) Where Melo and STAT played great down the stretch When the Knicks went small with STAT at the 5 and Melo at the 4. They played well together over the Woody games because Woody will feature them both. The problem was that neither had their shot going but hopefully they both will be working from now on.
They can definitely play ok together or even "well" at times but my point was/is, can it work overall and flourish ...
mrKnickShot wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:You guys forget the game(Sixer?) Where Melo and STAT played great down the stretch When the Knicks went small with STAT at the 5 and Melo at the 4. They played well together over the Woody games because Woody will feature them both. The problem was that neither had their shot going but hopefully they both will be working from now on.
They can definitely play ok together or even "well" at times but my point was/is, can it work overall and flourish ...
Yes, Early in the season Melo was going but STAT was slow and his shot was not falling. Then StAT got it going but Melo shot went bye bye but Melo improved his all around game and was throwing dimes left and right. It is all about knocking down shots. Their shot selection have been great with Woody. They are not forcing issues they are just letting the game come to them. It was not like they were not getting open 15 footers or layups, they were missing shots they normally made. Also, the feature of the double high post is perfect for Melo, STAT, and Lin. That set should be a beast for them because each player has the capabilities to make the jumper or taked their man of the dribble. Plus they are willing passers.
