Knicks · Melo's Shooting by Location (page 2)

Our Team always struggles with shot selection. The difference is that melo's talent overcomes some of it but he goes through bad stretches as well. Why isn't a guy who's making 21 mill per being held to a higher standard? Yes he's clearly our best player and he has no consistent offensive help but superstar players play to their best ability. I can criticize EVERY player on the Knicks for things they should be doing better to help us win. This topic just happens to be Melo...

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

What is "average to below average" elsewhere? You are obviously measuring those stats differently because they are diluted by everyone's "at the rim" numbers, right?

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

What is "average to below average" elsewhere? You are obviously measuring those stats differently because they are diluted by everyone's "at the rim" numbers, right?

You can see the league averages here
http://hoopdata.com/shotstats.aspx

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season...I won't call it being sensitive at all just pointing out your blind bias..

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season

No, I wasn't. My conclusions are not dependent on that 44 games. The pattern is the same for his whole career; I just didn't have access to the career #s. I posted the best sample I had access to. Go to the website and tell me what would have been a better sample to post or quit complaining. Then tell me what conclusions I reached would have been different if I'd used his full career stats or quit complaining.

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season

No, I wasn't. My conclusions are not dependent on that 44 games. The pattern is the same for his whole career; I just didn't have access to the career #s. I posted the best sample I had access to. Go to the website and tell me what would have been a better sample to post or quit complaining. Then tell me what conclusions I reached would have been different if I'd used his full career stats or quit complaining.

Really I dont really care for stats like that it doesnt tell the whole basketball story...See what a player brings nightly is more appealing to me...Good luck spinning your propaganda ..

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season

No, I wasn't. My conclusions are not dependent on that 44 games. The pattern is the same for his whole career; I just didn't have access to the career #s. I posted the best sample I had access to. Go to the website and tell me what would have been a better sample to post or quit complaining. Then tell me what conclusions I reached would have been different if I'd used his full career stats or quit complaining.

Really I dont really care for stats like that it doesnt tell the whole basketball story...See what a player brings nightly is more appealing to me...Good luck spinning your propaganda ..

OK, what part of the story is it missing? And what is my propaganda? Can you give specifics instead of voicing vague complaints?
If you think examining shooting percentage by location is useless, then you are not obligated to reply to this thread.

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season

No, I wasn't. My conclusions are not dependent on that 44 games. The pattern is the same for his whole career; I just didn't have access to the career #s. I posted the best sample I had access to. Go to the website and tell me what would have been a better sample to post or quit complaining. Then tell me what conclusions I reached would have been different if I'd used his full career stats or quit complaining.

Really I dont really care for stats like that it doesnt tell the whole basketball story...See what a player brings nightly is more appealing to me...Good luck spinning your propaganda ..

OK, what part of the story is it missing? And what is my propaganda? Can you give specifics instead of voicing vague complaints?
If you think examining shooting percentage by location is useless, then you are not obligated to reply to this thread.

The constant daily negative drumbeat ...U picked the worst season of his career in a limited timeframe and u aren't spinning anything...ok

Bonn, if Kobe is better in every category, some by alot in the minimal sample that HoopData supplies, then why is it that they have almost identical FG% for their respective careers?

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season

No, I wasn't. My conclusions are not dependent on that 44 games. The pattern is the same for his whole career; I just didn't have access to the career #s. I posted the best sample I had access to. Go to the website and tell me what would have been a better sample to post or quit complaining. Then tell me what conclusions I reached would have been different if I'd used his full career stats or quit complaining.

Really I dont really care for stats like that it doesnt tell the whole basketball story...See what a player brings nightly is more appealing to me...Good luck spinning your propaganda ..

OK, what part of the story is it missing? And what is my propaganda? Can you give specifics instead of voicing vague complaints?
If you think examining shooting percentage by location is useless, then you are not obligated to reply to this thread.

The constant daily negative drumbeat ...U picked the worst season of his career in a limited timeframe and u aren't spinning anything...ok

But this season was representative in terms of the issue at hand (that Melo is good around the rim and mediocre elsewhere). I picked the worst season of his career to discuss an issue to which the fact that this was his worst season had no relevance.

I've addressed every one of your comments. Can you address any of mine? Here are the questions I've asked that you've run away from:
A) What would have been a better sample to post?
B) What part of the story are these stats missing?
C) What is my "propaganda"?

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season

No, I wasn't. My conclusions are not dependent on that 44 games. The pattern is the same for his whole career; I just didn't have access to the career #s. I posted the best sample I had access to. Go to the website and tell me what would have been a better sample to post or quit complaining. Then tell me what conclusions I reached would have been different if I'd used his full career stats or quit complaining.

Really I dont really care for stats like that it doesnt tell the whole basketball story...See what a player brings nightly is more appealing to me...Good luck spinning your propaganda ..

OK, what part of the story is it missing? And what is my propaganda? Can you give specifics instead of voicing vague complaints?
If you think examining shooting percentage by location is useless, then you are not obligated to reply to this thread.

The constant daily negative drumbeat ...U picked the worst season of his career in a limited timeframe and u aren't spinning anything...ok

But this season was representative in terms of the issue at hand (that Melo is good around the rim and mediocre elsewhere). I picked the worst season of his career to discuss an issue to which the fact that this was his worst season had no relevance.

I've addressed every one of your comments. Can you address any of mine? Here are the questions I've asked that you've run away from:
A) What would have been a better sample to post?
B) What part of the story are these stats missing?
C) What is my "propaganda"?

Ok can u admit that a 44 game sampling is not a full season?

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season

No, I wasn't. My conclusions are not dependent on that 44 games. The pattern is the same for his whole career; I just didn't have access to the career #s. I posted the best sample I had access to. Go to the website and tell me what would have been a better sample to post or quit complaining. Then tell me what conclusions I reached would have been different if I'd used his full career stats or quit complaining.

Really I dont really care for stats like that it doesnt tell the whole basketball story...See what a player brings nightly is more appealing to me...Good luck spinning your propaganda ..

OK, what part of the story is it missing? And what is my propaganda? Can you give specifics instead of voicing vague complaints?
If you think examining shooting percentage by location is useless, then you are not obligated to reply to this thread.

The constant daily negative drumbeat ...U picked the worst season of his career in a limited timeframe and u aren't spinning anything...ok

But this season was representative in terms of the issue at hand (that Melo is good around the rim and mediocre elsewhere). I picked the worst season of his career to discuss an issue to which the fact that this was his worst season had no relevance.

I've addressed every one of your comments. Can you address any of mine? Here are the questions I've asked that you've run away from:
A) What would have been a better sample to post?
B) What part of the story are these stats missing?
C) What is my "propaganda"?

Ok can u admit that a 44 game sampling is not a full season?

I'm not going to play a game where I answer all your questions and you ignore all mine. Sorry.

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season

No, I wasn't. My conclusions are not dependent on that 44 games. The pattern is the same for his whole career; I just didn't have access to the career #s. I posted the best sample I had access to. Go to the website and tell me what would have been a better sample to post or quit complaining. Then tell me what conclusions I reached would have been different if I'd used his full career stats or quit complaining.

Really I dont really care for stats like that it doesnt tell the whole basketball story...See what a player brings nightly is more appealing to me...Good luck spinning your propaganda ..

OK, what part of the story is it missing? And what is my propaganda? Can you give specifics instead of voicing vague complaints?
If you think examining shooting percentage by location is useless, then you are not obligated to reply to this thread.

The constant daily negative drumbeat ...U picked the worst season of his career in a limited timeframe and u aren't spinning anything...ok

But this season was representative in terms of the issue at hand (that Melo is good around the rim and mediocre elsewhere). I picked the worst season of his career to discuss an issue to which the fact that this was his worst season had no relevance.

I've addressed every one of your comments. Can you address any of mine? Here are the questions I've asked that you've run away from:
A) What would have been a better sample to post?
B) What part of the story are these stats missing?
C) What is my "propaganda"?

Ok can u admit that a 44 game sampling is not a full season?

I'm not going to play a game where I answer all your questions and you ignore all mine. Sorry.

I'm addressing (c) propaganda

Bonn,

This season is not the issue at hand, we know it was his worst and there are many possibilities as to why that do not need regurgitation.

Do you want to rehash "THE SEASON" or do you want to deal with or talk about how he's playing now?

All you really discuss in threads at this point is your disdain for Melo, so yes - it does sound like propaganda.

I did not know you had any issue with Stat until you said yesterday that you were not for the signing. He is our biggest problem but you don't really care to discuss him.

mrKnickShot wrote:Bonn,

This season is not the issue at hand, we know it was his worst and there are many possibilities as to why that do not need regurgitation.

Do you want to rehash "THE SEASON" or do you want to deal with or talk about how he's playing now?

All you really discuss in threads at this point is your disdain for Melo, so yes - it does sound like propaganda.

I did not know you had any issue with Stat until you said yesterday that you were not for the signing. He is our biggest problem but you don't really care to discuss him.

What did I say that indicated disdain? You have the same hypersensitivity that Holfresh does. In what way would my conclusions be different I had used a different season? And no, I'm not going to give much attention to a 5 game sample (good or bad). If he plays like this for the rest of this season and the first half of next season, I'll give it attention. And what would you like to discuss about Amare?

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season

No, I wasn't. My conclusions are not dependent on that 44 games. The pattern is the same for his whole career; I just didn't have access to the career #s. I posted the best sample I had access to. Go to the website and tell me what would have been a better sample to post or quit complaining. Then tell me what conclusions I reached would have been different if I'd used his full career stats or quit complaining.

Really I dont really care for stats like that it doesnt tell the whole basketball story...See what a player brings nightly is more appealing to me...Good luck spinning your propaganda ..

OK, what part of the story is it missing? And what is my propaganda? Can you give specifics instead of voicing vague complaints?
If you think examining shooting percentage by location is useless, then you are not obligated to reply to this thread.

The constant daily negative drumbeat ...U picked the worst season of his career in a limited timeframe and u aren't spinning anything...ok

But this season was representative in terms of the issue at hand (that Melo is good around the rim and mediocre elsewhere). I picked the worst season of his career to discuss an issue to which the fact that this was his worst season had no relevance.

I've addressed every one of your comments. Can you address any of mine? Here are the questions I've asked that you've run away from:
A) What would have been a better sample to post?
B) What part of the story are these stats missing?
C) What is my "propaganda"?

Ok can u admit that a 44 game sampling is not a full season?

I'm not going to play a game where I answer all your questions and you ignore all mine. Sorry.

I'm addressing (c) propaganda

How so? You have not in any way indicated the content of my propaganda. A reply to C would indicate such content. If you indicate the content of my propaganda and bring in evidence to support your claim, then you will have finally addressed one of my questions, and I in turn will address one of yours.

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Bonn,

This season is not the issue at hand, we know it was his worst and there are many possibilities as to why that do not need regurgitation.

Do you want to rehash "THE SEASON" or do you want to deal with or talk about how he's playing now?

All you really discuss in threads at this point is your disdain for Melo, so yes - it does sound like propaganda.

I did not know you had any issue with Stat until you said yesterday that you were not for the signing. He is our biggest problem but you don't really care to discuss him.

What did I say that indicated disdain? You have the same hypersensitivity that Holfresh does. In what way would my conclusions be different I had used a different season? And no, I'm not going to give much attention to a 5 game sample (good or bad). If he plays like this for the rest of this season and the first half of next season, I'll give it attention. And what would you like to discuss about Amare?

You don't care about the 5 games. That's what makes this post anachronistic which indicates either disdain or ignorance. I believe its the former.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Bonn,

This season is not the issue at hand, we know it was his worst and there are many possibilities as to why that do not need regurgitation.

Do you want to rehash "THE SEASON" or do you want to deal with or talk about how he's playing now?

All you really discuss in threads at this point is your disdain for Melo, so yes - it does sound like propaganda.

I did not know you had any issue with Stat until you said yesterday that you were not for the signing. He is our biggest problem but you don't really care to discuss him.

What did I say that indicated disdain? You have the same hypersensitivity that Holfresh does. In what way would my conclusions be different I had used a different season? And no, I'm not going to give much attention to a 5 game sample (good or bad). If he plays like this for the rest of this season and the first half of next season, I'll give it attention. And what would you like to discuss about Amare?

You don't care about the 5 games. That's what makes this post anachronistic which indicates either disdain or ignorance. I believe its the former.

I don't place a lot of weight on any factor until given a good reason to. Give me a good reason.