Knicks · Melo is clearly the best player to wear a knicks uniform since Patrick Ewing. (page 7)

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Changing the topic again? This is your MO Bonn and you should try it with someone else. Doesn't work with me.

How on earth could you think I changed the topic from what you wrote? Your comment is mind-boggling.

The topic is "best player since Ewing" not "most positive impact." And you know what the difference is between those two. This isn't debate club, its real life. You run a team with Chandler as the best player and you aren't winning as much as your team built around Melo.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Changing the topic again? This is your MO Bonn and you should try it with someone else. Doesn't work with me.

How on earth could you think I changed the topic from what you wrote? Your comment is mind-boggling.

Silverfuel: I think Tyson is not the best player since Ewing.
Bonn: What player outside of Tyson has had a bigger impact on the team since Ewing?
Silverfule: Stop fucking around changing topics.

yellowboy90 wrote:What I say is fact and what anyone who disagree with me is false and that is final. You are a hater if you do not agree with me. You have a low basketball IQ and do not understand bball and how it should be played.

That is exactly how some of these people that post here are. Its crazy!

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Changing the topic again? This is your MO Bonn and you should try it with someone else. Doesn't work with me.

How on earth could you think I changed the topic from what you wrote? Your comment is mind-boggling.

Silverfuel: I think Tyson is not the best player since Ewing.
Bonn: What player outside of Tyson has had a bigger impact on the team since Ewing?
Silverfule: Stop fucking around changing topics.

See my reply to Bonn for clarification.

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Changing the topic again? This is your MO Bonn and you should try it with someone else. Doesn't work with me.

How on earth could you think I changed the topic from what you wrote? Your comment is mind-boggling.

The topic is "best player since Ewing" not "most positive impact." And you know what the difference is between those two. This isn't debate club, its real life. You run a team with Chandler as the best player and you aren't winning as much as your team built around Melo.

You're not making any sense. *You* changed the topic to Tyson Chandler, and then I responded. In all the examples of topic changing, you though my comment was really egregious? You don't like me? Fine. But you're being ridiculous.

Silverfuel wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Changing the topic again? This is your MO Bonn and you should try it with someone else. Doesn't work with me.

How on earth could you think I changed the topic from what you wrote? Your comment is mind-boggling.

Silverfuel: I think Tyson is not the best player since Ewing.
Bonn: What player outside of Tyson has had a bigger impact on the team since Ewing?
Silverfule: Stop fucking around changing topics.

See my reply to Bonn for clarification.

I'm still trying to find the clarification

Silverfuel wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Ya some people are oblivious to Tysons impact on this team. last Year we were the worst team on defense but this year he has made this team a much better defensive team.

If you reply to my post and say "some people" I am going to assume you are talking about me. What makes you think I am "oblivious" to Tyson's impact?

I can't believe the stuff I am reading today! People still reaching for ways to discredit Melo & Woodson

gunsnewing wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Ya some people are oblivious to Tysons impact on this team. last Year we were the worst team on defense but this year he has made this team a much better defensive team.

If you reply to my post and say "some people" I am going to assume you are talking about me. What makes you think I am "oblivious" to Tyson's impact?

I can't believe the stuff I am reading today! People still reaching for ways to discredit Melo & Woodson

I assure you that the people you're criticizing cannot believe a lot of what they're reading either. Everyone here apparently either hates Melo and the entire organization or is more overprotective of Melo than they are of their own children.

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Ya some people are oblivious to Tysons impact on this team. last Year we were the worst team on defense but this year he has made this team a much better defensive team.

If you reply to my post and say "some people" I am going to assume you are talking about me. What makes you think I am "oblivious" to Tyson's impact?

I can't believe the stuff I am reading today! People still reaching for ways to discredit Melo & Woodson

I assure you that the people you're criticizing cannot believe a lot of what they're reading either. Everyone here apparently either hates Melo and the entire organization or is more overprotective of Melo than they are of their own children.

I've was never a fan of the way Melo played the game and carried himself going all the way back to his rookie year. I would argue that he had a lot of Iverson in him as he shot 39% but overtime my feeling about Melo have changed. Under Woodson we are witnessing the real Carmelo Anthony, the one we traded half the team for. Not a borderline allstar but a legit top 10-12 player in the league.

I just call a spade a spade and refuse to let stubbornness and self pride cloud my mind and opinions.

gunsnewing wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Ya some people are oblivious to Tysons impact on this team. last Year we were the worst team on defense but this year he has made this team a much better defensive team.

If you reply to my post and say "some people" I am going to assume you are talking about me. What makes you think I am "oblivious" to Tyson's impact?

I can't believe the stuff I am reading today! People still reaching for ways to discredit Melo & Woodson

I assure you that the people you're criticizing cannot believe a lot of what they're reading either. Everyone here apparently either hates Melo and the entire organization or is more overprotective of Melo than they are of their own children.

I've was never a fan of the way Melo played the game and carried himself going all the way back to his rookie year. I would argue that he had a lot of Iverson in him as he shot 39% but overtime my feeling about Melo have changed. Under Woodson we are witnessing the real Carmelo Anthony, the one we traded half the team for. Not a borderline allstar but a legit top 10-12 player in the league.

I just call a spade a spade and refuse to let stubbornness and self pride cloud my mind and opinions.

Fair enough. Melo's playing great and I'm cautiously optimistic at this point (which makes me a hater).

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Changing the topic again? This is your MO Bonn and you should try it with someone else. Doesn't work with me.

How on earth could you think I changed the topic from what you wrote? Your comment is mind-boggling.

Silverfuel: I think Tyson is not the best player since Ewing.
Bonn: What player outside of Tyson has had a bigger impact on the team since Ewing?
Silverfule: Stop fucking around changing topics.

See my reply to Bonn for clarification.

I'm still trying to find the clarification

Its arrogant little shitty posts like this that show how little you care about basketball and how much you care about trolling.

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Changing the topic again? This is your MO Bonn and you should try it with someone else. Doesn't work with me.

How on earth could you think I changed the topic from what you wrote? Your comment is mind-boggling.

Silverfuel: I think Tyson is not the best player since Ewing.
Bonn: What player outside of Tyson has had a bigger impact on the team since Ewing?
Silverfule: Stop fucking around changing topics.

See my reply to Bonn for clarification.

I'm still trying to find the clarification

Its arrogant little shitty posts like this that show how little you care about basketball and how much you care about trolling.

Okay

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Changing the topic again? This is your MO Bonn and you should try it with someone else. Doesn't work with me.

How on earth could you think I changed the topic from what you wrote? Your comment is mind-boggling.

The topic is "best player since Ewing" not "most positive impact." And you know what the difference is between those two. This isn't debate club, its real life. You run a team with Chandler as the best player and you aren't winning as much as your team built around Melo.

You're not making any sense. *You* changed the topic to Tyson Chandler, and then I responded. In all the examples of topic changing, you though my comment was really egregious? You don't like me? Fine. But you're being ridiculous.

Either you are having trouble following this thread or you are doing this on purpose. I was responding to loweyecue who said chandler was the best player since Ewing. I said he wasn't. You instead of talking about who the best player is start talking about who has the most impact? You do know that someone that plays 12 minutes can have the most impact by just being a great locker room presence right? They are not the same thing at all and you know that but you decide to make that the argument because you just like changing the argument.

You seem to think I have a problem with you personally. I don't. You should stop worrying about that and just stay on point. Talk basketball not statistics and stick to the point.

Thread relevant or not, I've created some really good discussion during the Dantoni era.

We needed this, the topics went stale for a while.

Thank you all for your contributions.

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Changing the topic again? This is your MO Bonn and you should try it with someone else. Doesn't work with me.

How on earth could you think I changed the topic from what you wrote? Your comment is mind-boggling.

The topic is "best player since Ewing" not "most positive impact." And you know what the difference is between those two. This isn't debate club, its real life. You run a team with Chandler as the best player and you aren't winning as much as your team built around Melo.

You're not making any sense. *You* changed the topic to Tyson Chandler, and then I responded. In all the examples of topic changing, you though my comment was really egregious? You don't like me? Fine. But you're being ridiculous.

Either you are having trouble following this thread or you are doing this on purpose. I was responding to loweyecue who said chandler was the best player since Ewing. I said he wasn't. You instead of talking about who the best player is start talking about who has the most impact? You do know that someone that plays 12 minutes can have the most impact by just being a great locker room presence right? They are not the same thing at all and you know that but you decide to make that the argument because you just like changing the argument.

You seem to think I have a problem with you personally. I don't. You should stop worrying about that and just stay on point. Talk basketball not statistics and stick to the point.

It won't be easy but I will try my absolute best to follow your guidelines.

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Ya some people are oblivious to Tysons impact on this team. last Year we were the worst team on defense but this year he has made this team a much better defensive team.

If you reply to my post and say "some people" I am going to assume you are talking about me. What makes you think I am "oblivious" to Tyson's impact?

I can't believe the stuff I am reading today! People still reaching for ways to discredit Melo & Woodson

I assure you that the people you're criticizing cannot believe a lot of what they're reading either. Everyone here apparently either hates Melo and the entire organization or is more overprotective of Melo than they are of their own children.

Talk about and over-reaction!

The funny thing is you take it personal when Melo gets credit and its getting tired!!

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Ya some people are oblivious to Tysons impact on this team. last Year we were the worst team on defense but this year he has made this team a much better defensive team.

If you reply to my post and say "some people" I am going to assume you are talking about me. What makes you think I am "oblivious" to Tyson's impact?

I can't believe the stuff I am reading today! People still reaching for ways to discredit Melo & Woodson

I assure you that the people you're criticizing cannot believe a lot of what they're reading either. Everyone here apparently either hates Melo and the entire organization or is more overprotective of Melo than they are of their own children.

Talk about and over-reaction!

The funny thing is you take it personal when Melo gets credit and its getting tired!!

OK, I will try my best not to get you tired.

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Ya some people are oblivious to Tysons impact on this team. last Year we were the worst team on defense but this year he has made this team a much better defensive team.

If you reply to my post and say "some people" I am going to assume you are talking about me. What makes you think I am "oblivious" to Tyson's impact?

I can't believe the stuff I am reading today! People still reaching for ways to discredit Melo & Woodson

I assure you that the people you're criticizing cannot believe a lot of what they're reading either. Everyone here apparently either hates Melo and the entire organization or is more overprotective of Melo than they are of their own children.

I've was never a fan of the way Melo played the game and carried himself going all the way back to his rookie year. I would argue that he had a lot of Iverson in him as he shot 39% but overtime my feeling about Melo have changed. Under Woodson we are witnessing the real Carmelo Anthony, the one we traded half the team for. Not a borderline allstar but a legit top 10-12 player in the league.

I just call a spade a spade and refuse to let stubbornness and self pride cloud my mind and opinions.

Fair enough. Melo's playing great and I'm cautiously optimistic at this point (which makes me a hater).

What makes you who you are is what you post. Your position night in and night out is that the Knicks should win your way and any other way of winning is hollow and unsustainable. You admit you dont watch games and yet try and talk as you are the authority because you can follow stats? Calling yourself a hater would mean you follow the game. All your posts reek of someone that doesn't know what is going on.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Changing the topic again? This is your MO Bonn and you should try it with someone else. Doesn't work with me.

How on earth could you think I changed the topic from what you wrote? Your comment is mind-boggling.

The topic is "best player since Ewing" not "most positive impact." And you know what the difference is between those two. This isn't debate club, its real life. You run a team with Chandler as the best player and you aren't winning as much as your team built around Melo.

You're not making any sense. *You* changed the topic to Tyson Chandler, and then I responded. In all the examples of topic changing, you though my comment was really egregious? You don't like me? Fine. But you're being ridiculous.

Either you are having trouble following this thread or you are doing this on purpose. I was responding to loweyecue who said chandler was the best player since Ewing. I said he wasn't. You instead of talking about who the best player is start talking about who has the most impact? You do know that someone that plays 12 minutes can have the most impact by just being a great locker room presence right? They are not the same thing at all and you know that but you decide to make that the argument because you just like changing the argument.

You seem to think I have a problem with you personally. I don't. You should stop worrying about that and just stay on point. Talk basketball not statistics and stick to the point.

It won't be easy but I will try my absolute best to follow your guidelines.

Instead you just make a snide comment.

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Ya some people are oblivious to Tysons impact on this team. last Year we were the worst team on defense but this year he has made this team a much better defensive team.

If you reply to my post and say "some people" I am going to assume you are talking about me. What makes you think I am "oblivious" to Tyson's impact?

I can't believe the stuff I am reading today! People still reaching for ways to discredit Melo & Woodson

I assure you that the people you're criticizing cannot believe a lot of what they're reading either. Everyone here apparently either hates Melo and the entire organization or is more overprotective of Melo than they are of their own children.

I've was never a fan of the way Melo played the game and carried himself going all the way back to his rookie year. I would argue that he had a lot of Iverson in him as he shot 39% but overtime my feeling about Melo have changed. Under Woodson we are witnessing the real Carmelo Anthony, the one we traded half the team for. Not a borderline allstar but a legit top 10-12 player in the league.

I just call a spade a spade and refuse to let stubbornness and self pride cloud my mind and opinions.

Fair enough. Melo's playing great and I'm cautiously optimistic at this point (which makes me a hater).

What makes you who you are is what you post. Your position night in and night out is that the Knicks should win your way and any other way of winning is hollow and unsustainable. You admit you dont watch games and yet try and talk as you are the authority because you can follow stats? Calling yourself a hater would mean you follow the game. All your posts reek of someone that doesn't know what is going on.

I don't think one thing you said there is accurate. There seems to be a disconnect between you and reality.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:loweyecue: You can say Tyson Chandler is the best defensive player since Ewing (Camby?) but calling him the best player since Ewing is a serious reach.

What player since Tyson has had a more positive impact on the team? He should be DPOY and will likely lead the league in FG%

Ya some people are oblivious to Tysons impact on this team. last Year we were the worst team on defense but this year he has made this team a much better defensive team.

If you reply to my post and say "some people" I am going to assume you are talking about me. What makes you think I am "oblivious" to Tyson's impact?

I can't believe the stuff I am reading today! People still reaching for ways to discredit Melo & Woodson

I assure you that the people you're criticizing cannot believe a lot of what they're reading either. Everyone here apparently either hates Melo and the entire organization or is more overprotective of Melo than they are of their own children.

Talk about and over-reaction!

The funny thing is you take it personal when Melo gets credit and its getting tired!!

OK, I will try my best not to get you tired.

Yup, same snide type of thing again. Wish the ignore feature took out your comments completely.