Knicks · Heat vs. Knicks: Why LeBron James Should Be Concerned (page 1)
earthmansurfer@ 4/19/2012 2:57 PM
Not sure if you have ever seen Coach Nick break down games and plays but I learned a lot from watching this. I never played organized ball so I don't really know many plays.
I do agree that the Heat are vulnerable come playoff time. And the one thing that stood out is that the Heat really rely on turnovers to score points and we all witnessed that first hand. Anyway, enjoy.
FoeDiddy@ 4/19/2012 3:24 PM
great analysis besides the pointing out of Melo smiling. Lots of killers kill you with a smile on their faces.
Like I said we left so many points on the board that game. and not off of great heat Defense. Just us being off and being sloppy. I like the Heat matchup way better then the Bulls.
mrKnickShot@ 4/19/2012 3:25 PM
Melo does not have the killer instinct cause he smiles? GTFOH - what a joke this guy is.
Good analysis other then the smiling
BasketballJones@ 4/19/2012 3:34 PM
Interesting. Thanks for posting.
ChuckBuck@ 4/19/2012 3:37 PM
Now I know what "Horns" is!
Anji@ 4/19/2012 3:38 PM
Wow that was a really good breakdown, without bias MDA mumbo-jumbo about spread offense pick and dildo. I do think the double high post set should be a big time go to set with Stat and Melo on the floor with Novack. I think when Stat get's back he is going to have to work off of Melo and be 15feet away from the basket often.
I wished this guy posted here, could teach a certain Luva to take the Pringles can out of you know where, and watch the offense without bias.
fishmike@ 4/19/2012 3:50 PM
I see a way to beat the Heat, but it seemed Woodson had other ideas. Knicks need to sloooooow it down and bludgeon the Heat 90s style. Pound them in the half court. Of course this all depends on having Amare to push Bosh around.
IrishKnickFan@ 4/19/2012 3:54 PM
fishmike wrote:I see a way to beat the Heat, but it seemed Woodson had other ideas. Knicks need to sloooooow it down and bludgeon the Heat 90s style. Pound them in the half court. Of course this all depends on having Amare to push Bosh around.
The only problem with that is the refs. the Heat are like Boston you cant touch them
fishmike@ 4/19/2012 3:59 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
fishmike wrote:I see a way to beat the Heat, but it seemed Woodson had other ideas. Knicks need to sloooooow it down and bludgeon the Heat 90s style. Pound them in the half court. Of course this all depends on having Amare to push Bosh around.
The only problem with that is the refs. the Heat are like Boston you cant touch them
Yea but you can't control that. Also I'm talking offense and defense... We have guys that can live at the line also
IrishKnickFan@ 4/19/2012 4:02 PM
fishmike wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
fishmike wrote:I see a way to beat the Heat, but it seemed Woodson had other ideas. Knicks need to sloooooow it down and bludgeon the Heat 90s style. Pound them in the half court. Of course this all depends on having Amare to push Bosh around.
The only problem with that is the refs. the Heat are like Boston you cant touch them
Yea but you can't control that. Also I'm talking offense and defense... We have guys that can live at the line also
But Weren't many of the players mostly baron davis saying that they should have picked up the pace more
Killa4luv@ 4/19/2012 6:04 PM
this is awesome. Thanx.
mrKnickShot@ 4/19/2012 6:15 PM
fishmike wrote:I see a way to beat the Heat, but it seemed Woodson had other ideas. Knicks need to sloooooow it down and bludgeon the Heat 90s style. Pound them in the half court. Of course this all depends on having Amare to push Bosh around.
I agree. They are not a great halfcourt team and them will minimize their number of fast breaks.
yellowboy90@ 4/19/2012 10:27 PM
I think the key to beating the Heat is Ny going small with Amar'e at the five during some stretches. I also think they need to let Chandler get some touches in the post and at the elbow. You beat the Heat with your five and point guard play. You also must not turn the ball over but we all know that.
mrKnickShot@ 4/19/2012 10:28 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:I think the key to beating the Heat is Ny going small with Amar'e at the five during some stretches. I also think they need to let Chandler get some touches in the post and at the elbow. You beat the Heat with your five and point guard play. You also must not turn the ball over but we all know that.
If Amare plays the 5 how will we get rebounds? They would kill us on the boards.
yellowboy90@ 4/19/2012 10:58 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I think the key to beating the Heat is Ny going small with Amar'e at the five during some stretches. I also think they need to let Chandler get some touches in the post and at the elbow. You beat the Heat with your five and point guard play. You also must not turn the ball over but we all know that.
If Amare plays the 5 how will we get rebounds? They would kill us on the boards.
Let's not act like he can't rebound when he wants to. Playoff time he always turns up his game. Also it is not like the Heat front line is huge.
mrKnickShot@ 4/19/2012 11:01 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I think the key to beating the Heat is Ny going small with Amar'e at the five during some stretches. I also think they need to let Chandler get some touches in the post and at the elbow. You beat the Heat with your five and point guard play. You also must not turn the ball over but we all know that.
If Amare plays the 5 how will we get rebounds? They would kill us on the boards.
Let's not act like he can't rebound when he wants to. Playoff time he always turns up his game. Also it is not like the Heat front line is huge.
He can rebound when he wants to but not nearly as well as Tyson.
earthmansurfer@ 4/20/2012 4:01 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:Now I know what "Horns" is!
eheehe, That is what I was thinking too. Now that play stands out to me and is easy to see.
But seeing what the plays are now will make it interesting for later. Normally I just watch games and don't pick up on plays before they develop. But knowing how a few are designed to work makes it a bit more interesting.
Mray20@ 4/20/2012 4:10 AM
I may be an nba conspiracy theorist but I feel the refs won't let the Knicks beat the Heat in the first round I believe, look at the game at the Garden and all the bad calls, now look at this play Wade should have been thrown out of the game for this and wasn't , I feel the fix is in the League and Stern want Miami to win the title.
Uptown@ 4/20/2012 8:21 AM
earthmansurfer wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Now I know what "Horns" is!
eheehe, That is what I was thinking too. Now that play stands out to me and is easy to see.
But seeing what the plays are now will make it interesting for later. Normally I just watch games and don't pick up on plays before they develop. But knowing how a few are designed to work makes it a bit more interesting.
Horns, aka, Elbows. Its an offensive set (actually its a Flex Offense) that's been around in the league for a long time. I run variations of this offense with my team. It allows for simple give-n-go's, handoffs, pick-n-rolls, down-screens and flex cuts. Many options with this set....
Bonn1997@ 4/20/2012 8:38 AM
That certainly made Bosh and Smith look bad.
yellowboy90@ 4/20/2012 8:55 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I think the key to beating the Heat is Ny going small with Amar'e at the five during some stretches. I also think they need to let Chandler get some touches in the post and at the elbow. You beat the Heat with your five and point guard play. You also must not turn the ball over but we all know that.
If Amare plays the 5 how will we get rebounds? They would kill us on the boards.
Let's not act like he can't rebound when he wants to. Playoff time he always turns up his game. Also it is not like the Heat front line is huge.
He can rebound when he wants to but not nearly as well as Tyson.
Does Tyson play the whole game? There will be times Amar'e will be needed and with the way Jeffries has been playing after the knee injury I want Amar'e at five.