Knicks · Via Daily News: Woodson Knicks talking deal (page 4)

Pretty sure the Knicks have already put out feelers for Phil Jackson. He isnt coaching at all so it's not like they would have restrictions. He probably said no or wants too much money.

I have never believed Phil Jackson wanted to come here. There's a lot of scrutiny here - he wouldn't have the best player in the league and he's old. The only team I see him coaching is if Miami came calling and you know Riley won't do that.

I think Woodson almost earned the job with his 18-6 finish, but I wouldn't hand him an extension with only 1 playoff win. He still needs to do a lot better job and before I signed him to any contract I'd want to hear his full plan of how he's going to make Amare and Melo in the same offense work. It doesn't need to be a fullproof plan but I need a plan that makes some sense.

That being said he's as good a candidate for the job as any.

How many years before Woodson is led out of here in handcufffs

ToddTT wrote:

loweyecue wrote:It's funny. There are two types of people supporting Woody here. One group has insulated themselves thinking Woody is beeter than Pringles so that means we don't need to look further. The other group thinks Phil can't do it, or won't or they don't like him because he coached the bulls so we need tokeep Woody. Between people disqualifying Prngles and people disqualifying PJax everyone is convinced Woody is the man for the job because he won 15 regualr season games??!!?!?!? LOL

WTF are these people smoking????

I like his rotations, the emphasis on defense, his demeanor on and off the court, the constant communication with players, the respect they seem to have for him, and the goatee.

But mostly the goatee.

Oh, and Funky Cold Medina.

Bippity10 wrote:How many years before Woodson is led out of here in handcufffs

Probably around February 2013, if the world doesn't end before then.

Bippity10 wrote:How many years before Woodson is led out of here in handcufffs

Thats exactly the point - if he's good or not, the vultures will be calling him ISO Joe the first time he runs an ISO and telestrating the offensive plays they blindly perceive that he is not running (like all the screens for cement-shoe-Novak)

IT'S GONNA BE THEATRICAL THATS IS CERTAIN

mrKnickShot wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

loweyecue wrote:It's funny. There are two types of people supporting Woody here. One group has insulated themselves thinking Woody is beeter than Pringles so that means we don't need to look further. The other group thinks Phil can't do it, or won't or they don't like him because he coached the bulls so we need tokeep Woody. Between people disqualifying Prngles and people disqualifying PJax everyone is convinced Woody is the man for the job because he won 15 regualr season games??!!?!?!? LOL

WTF are these people smoking????

18 regular season games and 1 playoff game!

You beat me

Loweyecue, everyone? I see many wanting PJax here.

I am talking about the people who think Woodson is the best thing to happen to the Knicks since Patrick Ewing.

VDesai wrote:I have never believed Phil Jackson wanted to come here. There's a lot of scrutiny here - he wouldn't have the best player in the league and he's old. The only team I see him coaching is if Miami came calling and you know Riley won't do that.

I think Woodson almost earned the job with his 18-6 finish, but I wouldn't hand him an extension with only 1 playoff win. He still needs to do a lot better job and before I signed him to any contract I'd want to hear his full plan of how he's going to make Amare and Melo in the same offense work. It doesn't need to be a fullproof plan but I need a plan that makes some sense.

That being said he's as good a candidate for the job as any.

Yeah i have always wondered why some fans think that its a foregone conclusion that PJAX will be our coach someday. Yes he was a knicks player but he never seemed interested in being the knicks coach. I think woodson will be a good coach once he gets the chnace to have a full year. I mean he went 18-6 and then freak injuries ruined this series with the heat

CashMoney wrote:

loweyecue wrote:It's funny. There are two types of people supporting Woody here. One group has insulated themselves thinking Woody is beeter than Pringles so that means we don't need to look further. The other group thinks Phil can't do it, or won't or they don't like him because he coached the bulls so we need tokeep Woody. Between people disqualifying Prngles and people disqualifying PJax everyone is convinced Woody is the man for the job because he won 15 regualr season games??!!?!?!? LOL

WTF are these people smoking????

18 regular season games and 1 playoff game!

Oy Vey! Makes those 10 Rings Phils has pale by comparison. Or all those years Sloan went to the NBA finals. No way those things stack up against ONE POST SEASON WIN!!

loweyecue wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

loweyecue wrote:It's funny. There are two types of people supporting Woody here. One group has insulated themselves thinking Woody is beeter than Pringles so that means we don't need to look further. The other group thinks Phil can't do it, or won't or they don't like him because he coached the bulls so we need tokeep Woody. Between people disqualifying Prngles and people disqualifying PJax everyone is convinced Woody is the man for the job because he won 15 regualr season games??!!?!?!? LOL

WTF are these people smoking????

18 regular season games and 1 playoff game!

You beat me

Loweyecue, everyone? I see many wanting PJax here.

I am talking about the people who think Woodson is the best thing to happen to the Knicks since Patrick Ewing.

I don't think anyone thinks that but he is a world beater compared to the guy he replaced.

I am immensely disappointed.

i'm disappointed too. I wouldn't mind a one year contract to fully prove himself though.

Woodson is ok for me. In fact, it doesn't matter to me who the coach is. I'd believe.

loweyecue wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

loweyecue wrote:It's funny. There are two types of people supporting Woody here. One group has insulated themselves thinking Woody is beeter than Pringles so that means we don't need to look further. The other group thinks Phil can't do it, or won't or they don't like him because he coached the bulls so we need tokeep Woody. Between people disqualifying Prngles and people disqualifying PJax everyone is convinced Woody is the man for the job because he won 15 regualr season games??!!?!?!? LOL

WTF are these people smoking????

18 regular season games and 1 playoff game!

You beat me

Loweyecue, everyone? I see many wanting PJax here.

I am talking about the people who think Woodson is the best thing to happen to the Knicks since Patrick Ewing.

Yeah, who are these freaks? We need names.

mrKnickShot wrote:

martin wrote:

NUPE wrote:They are all iso oriented players on the offensive side of the ball. Phil Jackson has a history of allowing his top scorers to iso. So, complaining about Woodson iso while yearning for Phil Jackson is kind of odd to me. Phil is the better coach but you are still gonna get iso melo in large amounts with either coach.

for me there is a huge difference between iso ball that Phil played and what Woodson has been able to demonstrate, but it's also probably not fair to compare the 2 directly because the players each have had are on different levels.

Pure iso ball is necessary to have on any team, especially for closing out games - even more so in the playoffs. It's what happens over the long haul of the season and how other players on the team are integrated and how dominate - often times to the detriment of others on the team - that iso ball is favored.

Martin, how do you feel about hiring woodson? And do you think Melo is just Marbury 2.0?

I have stated my position before: Woodson has done a very good job here during his run as head coach, but if Phil is willing and available, he's prob the only guy I would hire over Woodson.

Melo is Melo, Marbury was a fool.

Let me come up with the pejorative before the hatters do:

Woody Lovers

There. I said it.

martin wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

martin wrote:

NUPE wrote:They are all iso oriented players on the offensive side of the ball. Phil Jackson has a history of allowing his top scorers to iso. So, complaining about Woodson iso while yearning for Phil Jackson is kind of odd to me. Phil is the better coach but you are still gonna get iso melo in large amounts with either coach.

for me there is a huge difference between iso ball that Phil played and what Woodson has been able to demonstrate, but it's also probably not fair to compare the 2 directly because the players each have had are on different levels.

Pure iso ball is necessary to have on any team, especially for closing out games - even more so in the playoffs. It's what happens over the long haul of the season and how other players on the team are integrated and how dominate - often times to the detriment of others on the team - that iso ball is favored.

Martin, how do you feel about hiring woodson? And do you think Melo is just Marbury 2.0?

I have stated my position before: Woodson has done a very good job here during his run as head coach, but if Phil is willing and available, he's prob the only guy I would hire over Woodson.

Melo is Melo, Marbury was a fool.

I completely agree with your Woodson view.

Not sure what Melo is Melo means though If you didn't tell me that I would have thought he was JJ Redick

BasketballJones wrote:Let me come up with the pejorative before the hatters do:

Woody Lovers

There. I said it.

Hahah - that is good! Who is not a Woody Lover? And if you have a miniscule sample size, with a few bucks you can become a Woody Lover.

Bippity10 wrote:How many years before Woodson is led out of here in handcufffs

Nah. We have to think of a new, unique humiliation for Woody.

I can see my unborn grandchildren in the abyss of blackness called "Woodson's goatee".

BasketballJones wrote:Let me come up with the pejorative before the hatters do:

Woody Lovers

There. I said it.

Yeah, very original.