Landry Fields a man of many excuses. Never seen it to this extent with any player
yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:TymeLessKnicks wrote:AnubisADL wrote:If he doesnt get any crazy deals you keep him. no one is going to make him a huge offer anyway. Sadly we have to keep him since his replacement would likely be worse.
Fields versus other teams bench is good. Fields versus other teams starters is bad.
Honestly, I really do not think he as bad as you guys are letting on. He is a willing passer, cuts well to the basket, has awareness to create space and is a very willing and capable defender.
Do you not see these things in his game?
Agreed; he had a down year but has plenty of skills. He's worth a small contract, and right now, the only healthy back-court member we have is Toney Douglas. We are DESPERATE for back-court players.
Not to call you out but what other capable two guard would not be able to take advantage of being played by 4s and 5s?
Fields is not a 2 guard. He's an SF being forced to play out of position.
Even worse because in April he was playing the three and Shump started at the two. So since he was in his correct position what was the excuse?
He's a backup SF who can play minutes as a backup SG. I do not think you appreciate how dire our back-court situation is. We have no cap space, no 1st round picks, and no 2nd round picks. Toney Douglas is our only healthy back-court member under contract. Between the MLE, LLE, and league min, we need to somehow acquire 4 or 5 back-court players.
Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:TymeLessKnicks wrote:AnubisADL wrote:If he doesnt get any crazy deals you keep him. no one is going to make him a huge offer anyway. Sadly we have to keep him since his replacement would likely be worse.
Fields versus other teams bench is good. Fields versus other teams starters is bad.
Honestly, I really do not think he as bad as you guys are letting on. He is a willing passer, cuts well to the basket, has awareness to create space and is a very willing and capable defender.
Do you not see these things in his game?
Agreed; he had a down year but has plenty of skills. He's worth a small contract, and right now, the only healthy back-court member we have is Toney Douglas. We are DESPERATE for back-court players.
Not to call you out but what other capable two guard would not be able to take advantage of being played by 4s and 5s?
Fields is not a 2 guard. He's an SF being forced to play out of position.
Even worse because in April he was playing the three and Shump started at the two. So since he was in his correct position what was the excuse?
He's a backup SF who can play minutes as a backup SG. I do not think you appreciate how dire our back-court situation is. We have no cap space, no 1st round picks, and no 2nd round picks. Toney Douglas is our only healthy back-court member under contract. Between the MLE, LLE, and league min, we need to somehow acquire 4 or 5 back-court players.
Is he a backup SF or does he "appear" to be?
mrKnickShot wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:TymeLessKnicks wrote:AnubisADL wrote:If he doesnt get any crazy deals you keep him. no one is going to make him a huge offer anyway. Sadly we have to keep him since his replacement would likely be worse.
Fields versus other teams bench is good. Fields versus other teams starters is bad.
Honestly, I really do not think he as bad as you guys are letting on. He is a willing passer, cuts well to the basket, has awareness to create space and is a very willing and capable defender.
Do you not see these things in his game?
Agreed; he had a down year but has plenty of skills. He's worth a small contract, and right now, the only healthy back-court member we have is Toney Douglas. We are DESPERATE for back-court players.
Not to call you out but what other capable two guard would not be able to take advantage of being played by 4s and 5s?
Fields is not a 2 guard. He's an SF being forced to play out of position.
Even worse because in April he was playing the three and Shump started at the two. So since he was in his correct position what was the excuse?
He's a backup SF who can play minutes as a backup SG. I do not think you appreciate how dire our back-court situation is. We have no cap space, no 1st round picks, and no 2nd round picks. Toney Douglas is our only healthy back-court member under contract. Between the MLE, LLE, and league min, we need to somehow acquire 4 or 5 back-court players.
Is he a backup SF or does he "appear" to be?
It is as is he is one
Bonn1997 wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:TymeLessKnicks wrote:AnubisADL wrote:If he doesnt get any crazy deals you keep him. no one is going to make him a huge offer anyway. Sadly we have to keep him since his replacement would likely be worse.
Fields versus other teams bench is good. Fields versus other teams starters is bad.
Honestly, I really do not think he as bad as you guys are letting on. He is a willing passer, cuts well to the basket, has awareness to create space and is a very willing and capable defender.
Do you not see these things in his game?
Agreed; he had a down year but has plenty of skills. He's worth a small contract, and right now, the only healthy back-court member we have is Toney Douglas. We are DESPERATE for back-court players.
Not to call you out but what other capable two guard would not be able to take advantage of being played by 4s and 5s?
Fields is not a 2 guard. He's an SF being forced to play out of position.
Even worse because in April he was playing the three and Shump started at the two. So since he was in his correct position what was the excuse?
He's a backup SF who can play minutes as a backup SG. I do not think you appreciate how dire our back-court situation is. We have no cap space, no 1st round picks, and no 2nd round picks. Toney Douglas is our only healthy back-court member under contract. Between the MLE, LLE, and league min, we need to somehow acquire 4 or 5 back-court players.
Is he a backup SF or does he "appear" to be?
It is as is he is one
Nope. He just appears to be one.
As Tyson appeared to be flu-ish
Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:TymeLessKnicks wrote:AnubisADL wrote:If he doesnt get any crazy deals you keep him. no one is going to make him a huge offer anyway. Sadly we have to keep him since his replacement would likely be worse.
Fields versus other teams bench is good. Fields versus other teams starters is bad.
Honestly, I really do not think he as bad as you guys are letting on. He is a willing passer, cuts well to the basket, has awareness to create space and is a very willing and capable defender.
Do you not see these things in his game?
Agreed; he had a down year but has plenty of skills. He's worth a small contract, and right now, the only healthy back-court member we have is Toney Douglas. We are DESPERATE for back-court players.
Not to call you out but what other capable two guard would not be able to take advantage of being played by 4s and 5s?
Fields is not a 2 guard. He's an SF being forced to play out of position.
Even worse because in April he was playing the three and Shump started at the two. So since he was in his correct position what was the excuse?
He's a backup SF who can play minutes as a backup SG. I do not think you appreciate how dire our back-court situation is. We have no cap space, no 1st round picks, and no 2nd round picks. Toney Douglas is our only healthy back-court member under contract. Between the MLE, LLE, and league min, we need to somehow acquire 4 or 5 back-court players.
All im saying is dont waste cap & roster space on Fields. Bring someone in for a 1yr vet min to share time with shump. I can tell u he will give u more than Fields will playing out of position
Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:TymeLessKnicks wrote:AnubisADL wrote:If he doesnt get any crazy deals you keep him. no one is going to make him a huge offer anyway. Sadly we have to keep him since his replacement would likely be worse.
Fields versus other teams bench is good. Fields versus other teams starters is bad.
Honestly, I really do not think he as bad as you guys are letting on. He is a willing passer, cuts well to the basket, has awareness to create space and is a very willing and capable defender.
Do you not see these things in his game?
Agreed; he had a down year but has plenty of skills. He's worth a small contract, and right now, the only healthy back-court member we have is Toney Douglas. We are DESPERATE for back-court players.
Not to call you out but what other capable two guard would not be able to take advantage of being played by 4s and 5s?
Fields is not a 2 guard. He's an SF being forced to play out of position.
Even worse because in April he was playing the three and Shump started at the two. So since he was in his correct position what was the excuse?
He's a backup SF who can play minutes as a backup SG. I do not think you appreciate how dire our back-court situation is. We have no cap space, no 1st round picks, and no 2nd round picks. Toney Douglas is our only healthy back-court member under contract. Between the MLE, LLE, and league min, we need to somehow acquire 4 or 5 back-court players.
I believe they have the 46 pick. I may be wrong. Maybe he improves and I really hope he does but right now you can find players with Field's skill set around the league.
yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:TymeLessKnicks wrote:AnubisADL wrote:If he doesnt get any crazy deals you keep him. no one is going to make him a huge offer anyway. Sadly we have to keep him since his replacement would likely be worse.
Fields versus other teams bench is good. Fields versus other teams starters is bad.
Honestly, I really do not think he as bad as you guys are letting on. He is a willing passer, cuts well to the basket, has awareness to create space and is a very willing and capable defender.
Do you not see these things in his game?
Agreed; he had a down year but has plenty of skills. He's worth a small contract, and right now, the only healthy back-court member we have is Toney Douglas. We are DESPERATE for back-court players.
Not to call you out but what other capable two guard would not be able to take advantage of being played by 4s and 5s?
Fields is not a 2 guard. He's an SF being forced to play out of position.
Even worse because in April he was playing the three and Shump started at the two. So since he was in his correct position what was the excuse?
He's a backup SF who can play minutes as a backup SG. I do not think you appreciate how dire our back-court situation is. We have no cap space, no 1st round picks, and no 2nd round picks. Toney Douglas is our only healthy back-court member under contract. Between the MLE, LLE, and league min, we need to somehow acquire 4 or 5 back-court players.
I believe they have the 46 pick. I may be wrong. Maybe he improves and I really hope he does but right now you can find players with Field's skill set around the league.
You get mostly chubby Bill Walkers for the league min. I'd rather have Fields.
We got novak for league minimum and he sure as hell helped us win way more games this year than Fields ever did.
You may get one or two players who turn out better than Fields for the league min but we need to acquire five more back-court members. Between the MLE, LLE, and 3 vet min contracts, it is unlikely that all five will be better than Fields.
Backup pg, back up sg can be had with the vet min, nbdl or through the draft. Will come cheaper than resigning Landry Fields. See toney douglas ridiculous contract. Maybe Lin takes less than the Mle and we resign Novak who will come cheap after his performance in the playoffs. And maybe trade for a PF/C
gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:TymeLessKnicks wrote:AnubisADL wrote:If he doesnt get any crazy deals you keep him. no one is going to make him a huge offer anyway. Sadly we have to keep him since his replacement would likely be worse.
Fields versus other teams bench is good. Fields versus other teams starters is bad.
Honestly, I really do not think he as bad as you guys are letting on. He is a willing passer, cuts well to the basket, has awareness to create space and is a very willing and capable defender.
Do you not see these things in his game?
Agreed; he had a down year but has plenty of skills. He's worth a small contract, and right now, the only healthy back-court member we have is Toney Douglas. We are DESPERATE for back-court players.
Not to call you out but what other capable two guard would not be able to take advantage of being played by 4s and 5s?
Fields is not a 2 guard. He's an SF being forced to play out of position.
Even worse because in April he was playing the three and Shump started at the two. So since he was in his correct position what was the excuse?
He's a backup SF who can play minutes as a backup SG. I do not think you appreciate how dire our back-court situation is. We have no cap space, no 1st round picks, and no 2nd round picks. Toney Douglas is our only healthy back-court member under contract. Between the MLE, LLE, and league min, we need to somehow acquire 4 or 5 back-court players.
All im saying is dont waste cap & roster space on Fields. Bring someone in for a 1yr vet min to share time with shump. I can tell u he will give u more than Fields will playing out of position
Yes, we need more geriatrics to fill the training room treatment tables
We're also seeing a recency bias in people's assessments. Fields has had one very good and one bad season, including one with very good and one with bad shooting. That's sufficient to make a 2 year, $5 mil contract a reasonable offer.
Bonn1997 wrote:We're also seeing a recency bias in people's assessments. Fields has had one very good and one bad season, including one with very good and one with bad shooting. That's sufficient to make a 2 year, $5 mil contract a reasonable offer.
Intersting ...
Let me "appear" to understand what your saying.
Lacking any statistical evidence assisting your statement/ASSESMENT, you are stating that 1 bad year and 1 good year warrants a 2 year contracts at 5 million? I DID NOT KNOW THAT!! THAT IS WIERD, WILD STUFF!
Help us repair our bias:
Does it make a difference if the "bad" year came 2nd?
Is there any relevancy in how good the good year was?
How about how bad the bad year was?
You have the coolest internal metrics for analytic assessments I have ever come across.
mrKnickShot wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:We're also seeing a recency bias in people's assessments. Fields has had one very good and one bad season, including one with very good and one with bad shooting. That's sufficient to make a 2 year, $5 mil contract a reasonable offer.
Intersting ...
Let me "appear" to understand what your saying.
Lacking any statistical evidence assisting your statement/ASSESMENT, you are stating that 1 bad year and 1 good year warrants a 2 year contracts at 5 million? I DID NOT KNOW THAT!! THAT IS WIERD, WILD STUFF!
Help us repair our bias:
Does it make a difference if the "bad" year came 2nd?
Is there any relevancy in how good the good year was?
How about how bad the bad year was?
You have the coolest internal metrics for analytic assessments I have ever come across.
Now you're being a troll but I'll give you credit for not smelling bad. I did not say I used statistics to arrive at my estimate that 2 yrs, 5 mil was reasonable; I'm just trying to avoid a recency bias. Does it matter that the bad year came 2nd? Yes, a little but not to the extent people think. People usually give more weight than is justifiable to recent observations. And if the the order were reversed, Fields would be getting $25 mil offers.
Bonn1997 wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:We're also seeing a recency bias in people's assessments. Fields has had one very good and one bad season, including one with very good and one with bad shooting. That's sufficient to make a 2 year, $5 mil contract a reasonable offer.
Intersting ...
Let me "appear" to understand what your saying.
Lacking any statistical evidence assisting your statement/ASSESMENT, you are stating that 1 bad year and 1 good year warrants a 2 year contracts at 5 million? I DID NOT KNOW THAT!! THAT IS WIERD, WILD STUFF!
Help us repair our bias:
Does it make a difference if the "bad" year came 2nd?
Is there any relevancy in how good the good year was?
How about how bad the bad year was?
You have the coolest internal metrics for analytic assessments I have ever come across.
Now you're being a troll but I'll give you credit for not smelling bad. I did not say I used statistics to arrive at my estimate that 2 yrs, 5 mil was reasonable; I'm just trying to avoid a recency bias. Does it matter that the bad year came 2nd? Yes, a little but not to the extent people think. People usually give more weight than is justifiable to recent observations. And if the the order were reversed, Fields would be getting $25 mil offers.
Bonn, I'm just messing around - because it's so easy 
But where to you come up with these things!?
mrKnickShot wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:We're also seeing a recency bias in people's assessments. Fields has had one very good and one bad season, including one with very good and one with bad shooting. That's sufficient to make a 2 year, $5 mil contract a reasonable offer.
Intersting ...
Let me "appear" to understand what your saying.
Lacking any statistical evidence assisting your statement/ASSESMENT, you are stating that 1 bad year and 1 good year warrants a 2 year contracts at 5 million? I DID NOT KNOW THAT!! THAT IS WIERD, WILD STUFF!
Help us repair our bias:
Does it make a difference if the "bad" year came 2nd?
Is there any relevancy in how good the good year was?
How about how bad the bad year was?
You have the coolest internal metrics for analytic assessments I have ever come across.
Now you're being a troll but I'll give you credit for not smelling bad. I did not say I used statistics to arrive at my estimate that 2 yrs, 5 mil was reasonable; I'm just trying to avoid a recency bias. Does it matter that the bad year came 2nd? Yes, a little but not to the extent people think. People usually give more weight than is justifiable to recent observations. And if the the order were reversed, Fields would be getting $25 mil offers.
Bonn, I'm just messing around - because it's so easy
But where to you come up with these things!?
Advanced Sabermetrics, he's like the beautiful mind of NBA Statistics
Fields needs to get his confidence back. I like his overall game but his shooting is atrocious for an NBA player at the 2 or 3. If he can get his stroke and make FT's at 70%, I think he is a keeper.
I wonder if there is any chance NO would trade Ariza? He is the type of player NY needs now.
I like Landry for the bench, need to sign a veteran 2 guard to start though.
What are the alternatives? I say you roll the dice on him and hope he improves. He was a consistent shooter last year. He was around 40% from 3 granted he only took the wide open ones. He has slashing ability and plays better d than some people give him credit for. He's also become a pretty good pick and roll player. Too bad MDA is gone lol.
Landry did not play defense last year. No one did on that team. The worst defensive team in nba history
