I've said this before---I think a swap of these players could actually improve both teams the way they are both constructed--and the contracts are basically the same. I'm not looking to trade anyone per se--but this is something I would explore. Its obvious watching the Lakers that Gasol Bynum is running its course and our jam up with Amare Chandler and Melo isnt that pretty either. Im not giving up talent for less--and this trade is the only trade where the salaries both in $ and length match where each team may just improve from the talent coming back.
Can we make it a colossal three team trade and include Houston? So they can get Pau and the Knicks can get Smith, Parsons, Scola, and etc. If the lAkers lose they will be clearing Cap space so they will not take Amar'e anyway.
Proposed on another Board: Would you trade Tyson Chandler for Gortat and a S&T with Nash?
Like most fans, I've been royally annoyed at the glaring deficiencies in Amare's game. So here's the optimistic take. This and next year will be the transition year for him. His body will no longer do what it did in Phoenix. He grows up. Learns to develop a back to the basket game (with a jump hook or spin fadeaway). Turns his jumper into a reliable go-to shot. And learns to box out and play defense with his feet, anticipation and hustle rather than pure physical ability. Maybe not that impossible.... anyway gives us hope even if we're not able to move him.
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Lakers are not giving us Pau for Amare. Pau (its sad to admit) right now is so much better than Amare it would be rape. The best we can hope is to get an Reggie Evans and filler. The piss poor season, bad back and uninsured knees.......I was definitely on the wrong side of the fence when guys wanted to amnesty Amare.
RoyBatty wrote:Like most fans, I've been royally annoyed at the glaring deficiencies in Amare's game. So here's the optimistic take. This and next year will be the transition year for him. His body will no longer do what it did in Phoenix. He grows up. Learns to develop a back to the basket game (with a jump hook or spin fadeaway). Turns his jumper into a reliable go-to shot. And learns to box out and play defense with his feet, anticipation and hustle rather than pure physical ability. Maybe not that impossible.... anyway gives us hope even if we're not able to move him.<Now back to our regular programming>
his jumper was money in Phoenix as well as year1 in New York. Think was damn near automatic! The Back killed his jump shot. If you look, he can't extend properly on the follow through anymore.
I've mentioned this trade before too but see no reason why LA would do it. Been watching the nuggets series and Pau looks over the hill. Woody is publicly challenging amare to develop a post game. Let's sink with this ship!
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:I've mentioned this trade before too but see no reason why LA would do it. Been watching the nuggets series and Pau looks over the hill. Woody is publicly challenging amare to develop a post game. Let's sink with this ship!
Like I said, the most we'll likely get is a Reggie Evans and filler.. I doubt we even get Jordan Hill.
RoyBatty wrote:Like most fans, I've been royally annoyed at the glaring deficiencies in Amare's game. So here's the optimistic take. This and next year will be the transition year for him. His body will no longer do what it did in Phoenix. He grows up. Learns to develop a back to the basket game (with a jump hook or spin fadeaway). Turns his jumper into a reliable go-to shot. And learns to box out and play defense with his feet, anticipation and hustle rather than pure physical ability. Maybe not that impossible.... anyway gives us hope even if we're not able to move him.<Now back to our regular programming>
If he has any pride and wants to win thats exactly what he will do in the offseason. And I think LJ was brought here fire that reason.
At a minimum, we'd be including Shumpert. It can't hurt to explore the trade but I doubt LA would do it.
DurzoBlint wrote:GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:I've mentioned this trade before too but see no reason why LA would do it. Been watching the nuggets series and Pau looks over the hill. Woody is publicly challenging amare to develop a post game. Let's sink with this ship!
Like I said, the most we'll likely get is a Reggie Evans and filler.. I doubt we even get Jordan Hill.
True. But that's why we keep Amare right? Basic law of trading: Buy Low Sell High. We already bought Amare High..might as well keep him rather than selling at the lows right?
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:DurzoBlint wrote:GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:I've mentioned this trade before too but see no reason why LA would do it. Been watching the nuggets series and Pau looks over the hill. Woody is publicly challenging amare to develop a post game. Let's sink with this ship!
Like I said, the most we'll likely get is a Reggie Evans and filler.. I doubt we even get Jordan Hill.
True. But that's why we keep Amare right? Basic law of trading: Buy Low Sell High. We already bought Amare High..might as well keep him rather than selling at the lows right?
The purchasing price is a sunk cost. He played OK in the playoffs and may be at the highest value he ever will be. With all the wear and tear on his body, it's hard for me to imagine him getting better with age.
Pau is probably a top 20ish player right now. Amare? It's better left unsaid lol
RoyBatty wrote:Like most fans, I've been royally annoyed at the glaring deficiencies in Amare's game. So here's the optimistic take. This and next year will be the transition year for him. His body will no longer do what it did in Phoenix. He grows up. Learns to develop a back to the basket game (with a jump hook or spin fadeaway). Turns his jumper into a reliable go-to shot. And learns to box out and play defense with his feet, anticipation and hustle rather than pure physical ability. Maybe not that impossible.... anyway gives us hope even if we're not able to move him.<Now back to our regular programming>
U think he will put that work in because I have my doubts
Bonn1997 wrote:At a minimum, we'd be including Shumpert. It can't hurt to explore the trade but I doubt LA would do it.
No way im trading Shumpert.
DurzoBlint wrote:Lakers are not giving us Pau for Amare. Pau (its sad to admit) right now is so much better than Amare it would be rape. The best we can hope is to get an Reggie Evans and filler. The piss poor season, bad back and uninsured knees.......I was definitely on the wrong side of the fence when guys wanted to amnesty Amare.
What about Carlos Boozer and CJ Mosley Edit I mean Watson cutting Alabama tape
yellowboy90 wrote:Can we make it a colossal three team trade and include Houston? So they can get Pau and the Knicks can get Smith, Parsons, Scola, and etc. If the lAkers lose they will be clearing Cap space so they will not take Amar'e anyway.Proposed on another Board: Would you trade Tyson Chandler for Gortat and a S&T with Nash?
If the Knicks could do that it would be amazing. I would be happy with Buddinger swapped in for Parsons also.
Jmpasq wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:At a minimum, we'd be including Shumpert. It can't hurt to explore the trade but I doubt LA would do it.
No way im trading Shumpert.
He's gonna be traded within 1 to 2 years anyway. You know how this organization works..
Penny pinching teams like the Lakers and Bulls are not taking Amare.
Bonn1997 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:At a minimum, we'd be including Shumpert. It can't hurt to explore the trade but I doubt LA would do it.
No way im trading Shumpert.
He's gonna be traded within 1 to 2 years anyway. You know how this organization works..
The only thing with him is that injury. I think Shump was on his way to becoming a top SG in the East
Bonn1997 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:At a minimum, we'd be including Shumpert. It can't hurt to explore the trade but I doubt LA would do it.
No way im trading Shumpert.
He's gonna be traded within 1 to 2 years anyway. You know how this organization works..
Hopefully his value, talent, and contract make him untradeable.
CrushAlot wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Can we make it a colossal three team trade and include Houston? So they can get Pau and the Knicks can get Smith, Parsons, Scola, and etc. If the lAkers lose they will be clearing Cap space so they will not take Amar'e anyway.Proposed on another Board: Would you trade Tyson Chandler for Gortat and a S&T with Nash?
If the Knicks could do that it would be amazing. I would be happy with Buddinger swapped in for Parsons also.
I meant Martin not Smith and I think Parson has a better upside and plays better defense. When Kobe gives you complements you have to be doing something right. But I am bias being a UF fan.
Also, if they make a trade I do not see it being for another big name. I think it has to be for some back up that has starting potential. How many teams identified Ryan Anderson as a starter. It shouldn't be about the name it should be about how they fit with Lin, SHump, Melo, and Chandler if you trade STAT.
