Amare will be a much better player next season but I just don't see he & Melo fitting together.
Brand has a year left on his contract & he'll bring that rugged rebounding presence which we need.
Tyson is a great defender but not a dominating rebounder.
Also Brand brings trade value at the deadline if we want to package him (Lin) for Chris Paul.
Amare would give Philly the star player they lack.
Why?
We need to get back someothing in return. It's not like we will be below the cap anyway.
I think we'd have to throw in about 5 first round picks just to convince Philly to take on the extra $45 mil in salary.
I read today Brand might be amnestied in Philly.
it would be nice if he can pull a Baron and sign with us for cheap.
Be about winning more than the money.
He got plenty and I can't tell a man to not get paid, but he can come home!
Bonn1997 wrote:I think we'd have to throw in about 5 first round picks just to convince Philly to take on the extra $45 mil in salary.
Maybe we should give a away the "other" half of hour team for him
I would consider it for Brand and Meeks, but we need some value back.
Brand for Amare..are you kidding me..
you do not trade Amar'e for just a bad contract. There needs to be a talented player or two coming back.
yellowboy90 wrote:you do not trade Amar'e for just a bad contract. There needs to be a talented player or two coming back.
$18 mil for Brand is just as bad as $63 mil for Amare? That argument would work only if you can convince me that Amare will be a max contract performer in the two years after Brand's deal expires.
Nalod wrote:I read today Brand might be amnestied in Philly. it would be nice if he can pull a Baron and sign with us for cheap.
Be about winning more than the money.
He got plenty and I can't tell a man to not get paid, but he can come home!
Brand got 1 more year on his contract at $18M, so I'm not sure it makes sense unless there is a boatload of UFA's Philly intends to sign in offseason.
knicks1248 wrote:Brand for Amare..are you kidding me..
+1
This is a joke thread right?
Just in case it's not, Sixers are talking about moving Iggy to get younger and change the culture of the team. I don't think adding a max contract, 29yo 10 year vet to their team is the direction they are heading.
JohnStarksFan wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Brand for Amare..are you kidding me..
+1
This is a joke thread right?
Just in case it's not, Sixers are talking about moving Iggy to get younger and change the culture of the team. I don't think adding a max contract, 29yo 10 year vet to their team is the direction they are heading.
Yeah, the joke is that Philly would even consider this deal
JohnStarksFan wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Brand for Amare..are you kidding me..
+1
This is a joke thread right?
Just in case it's not, Sixers are talking about moving Iggy to get younger and change the culture of the team. I don't think adding a max contract, 29yo 10 year vet to their team is the direction they are heading.
it's funny, people in this forum actually think we can move Amare. WE CAN'T. HIS CONTRACT IS TOO BIG AND HE'S UNINSURED.
This would be the dumbest trade in the world ...................... FOR PHILLY!!!!
martin wrote:Nalod wrote:I read today Brand might be amnestied in Philly. it would be nice if he can pull a Baron and sign with us for cheap.
Be about winning more than the money.
He got plenty and I can't tell a man to not get paid, but he can come home!
Brand got 1 more year on his contract at $18M, so I'm not sure it makes sense unless there is a boatload of UFA's Philly intends to sign in offseason.
That's more than likely exactly what they will do, as well as use the $$$ to offer contracts to Hawes and Allen, and trade Iggy for another player, and another 1st rounder, giving them 2 new 1st rounders to sign, one potentially being a top 10, the other being a 15.
JohnStarksFan wrote:martin wrote:Nalod wrote:I read today Brand might be amnestied in Philly. it would be nice if he can pull a Baron and sign with us for cheap.
Be about winning more than the money.
He got plenty and I can't tell a man to not get paid, but he can come home!
Brand got 1 more year on his contract at $18M, so I'm not sure it makes sense unless there is a boatload of UFA's Philly intends to sign in offseason.
That's more than likely exactly what they will do, as well as use the $$$ to offer contracts to Hawes and Allen, and trade Iggy for another player, and another 1st rounder, giving them 2 new 1st rounders to sign, one potentially being a top 10, the other being a 15.
OK, but who? I am trying to think of UFA big men who are worth it.
martin wrote:JohnStarksFan wrote:martin wrote:Nalod wrote:I read today Brand might be amnestied in Philly. it would be nice if he can pull a Baron and sign with us for cheap.
Be about winning more than the money.
He got plenty and I can't tell a man to not get paid, but he can come home!
Brand got 1 more year on his contract at $18M, so I'm not sure it makes sense unless there is a boatload of UFA's Philly intends to sign in offseason.
That's more than likely exactly what they will do, as well as use the $$$ to offer contracts to Hawes and Allen, and trade Iggy for another player, and another 1st rounder, giving them 2 new 1st rounders to sign, one potentially being a top 10, the other being a 15.
OK, but who? I am trying to think of UFA big men who are worth it.
Swap out Brand for a UFA?
How about Ilyasova? Best UFA on the market by far, and could cost much less than half of Brand's expiring contract.
Looking for restricted? Try either JJ Hickson or Jason Thompson. Sacramento doesn't need both and both showed signs of being true starting 4's. At least one will be on the market.
But the thing is that Philly isn't gonna look to swap out Brand for another starter, they will probably promote Lavoy Allen to the starting role, with Vucevic as backup.
Holiday
Turner
Young
Allen
Hawes
Bench: Williams, Meeks, Vucevic (added FA's and draft picks)
Not bad. Probably another playoff club. Small market results.
martin wrote:Nalod wrote:I read today Brand might be amnestied in Philly. it would be nice if he can pull a Baron and sign with us for cheap.
Be about winning more than the money.
He got plenty and I can't tell a man to not get paid, but he can come home!
Brand got 1 more year on his contract at $18M, so I'm not sure it makes sense unless there is a boatload of UFA's Philly intends to sign in offseason.
I hear you and would agree. Shedding his salary makes no sense unless he is a problem ( I doubt it) or they want to make a run at others.
Maybe they have a thing for Javale McGee? I don't know.
JohnStarksFan wrote:martin wrote:JohnStarksFan wrote:martin wrote:Nalod wrote:I read today Brand might be amnestied in Philly. it would be nice if he can pull a Baron and sign with us for cheap.
Be about winning more than the money.
He got plenty and I can't tell a man to not get paid, but he can come home!
Brand got 1 more year on his contract at $18M, so I'm not sure it makes sense unless there is a boatload of UFA's Philly intends to sign in offseason.
That's more than likely exactly what they will do, as well as use the $$$ to offer contracts to Hawes and Allen, and trade Iggy for another player, and another 1st rounder, giving them 2 new 1st rounders to sign, one potentially being a top 10, the other being a 15.
OK, but who? I am trying to think of UFA big men who are worth it.
Swap out Brand for a UFA?
How about Ilyasova? Best UFA on the market by far, and could cost much less than half of Brand's expiring contract.
Looking for restricted? Try either JJ Hickson or Jason Thompson. Sacramento doesn't need both and both showed signs of being true starting 4's. At least one will be on the market.
But the thing is that Philly isn't gonna look to swap out Brand for another starter, they will probably promote Lavoy Allen to the starting role, with Vucevic as backup.
Holiday
Turner
Young
Allen
Hawes
Bench: Williams, Meeks, Vucevic (added FA's and draft picks)
Not bad. Probably another playoff club. Small market results.
totally forgot about Ilyasova, good call. I am pretty sure JJ Hickson is UFA as he was waived? Jason Thompson would be another good piece.
Quite honestly I have a hard time reading this board. Not really referring to the thread topic or starter per se, but some of the overreactions and stubborn opinions that have formed. Yes Amare's contract is massive, yes he had a bad year. That being said I am no where near convinced that he is done. I thought he came on strong at the end of the year. Remember this is a guy who is a legit 25 ppg scorer with a 53% FG. Knicks coaching staff and players need to get together and figure out a better way to get their players to mesh. Its not impossible, but they have made very little progress with their offensive schemes to suit the strengths of Melo and Amare. That needs to be the focus of the staff and players all offseason. Having two players this good is just not worth giving up on as of yet. How many times are you gonna tear down and try to re-load? I think we've put together the most talented nucleus we have had in a while and we need to figure out how to make it work. Having a healthy J Lin work with them is an element we need to see before make wholesale changes. Patience is a virtue.
martin wrote:JohnStarksFan wrote:martin wrote:JohnStarksFan wrote:martin wrote:Nalod wrote:I read today Brand might be amnestied in Philly. it would be nice if he can pull a Baron and sign with us for cheap.
Be about winning more than the money.
He got plenty and I can't tell a man to not get paid, but he can come home!
Brand got 1 more year on his contract at $18M, so I'm not sure it makes sense unless there is a boatload of UFA's Philly intends to sign in offseason.
That's more than likely exactly what they will do, as well as use the $$$ to offer contracts to Hawes and Allen, and trade Iggy for another player, and another 1st rounder, giving them 2 new 1st rounders to sign, one potentially being a top 10, the other being a 15.
OK, but who? I am trying to think of UFA big men who are worth it.
Swap out Brand for a UFA?
How about Ilyasova? Best UFA on the market by far, and could cost much less than half of Brand's expiring contract.
Looking for restricted? Try either JJ Hickson or Jason Thompson. Sacramento doesn't need both and both showed signs of being true starting 4's. At least one will be on the market.
But the thing is that Philly isn't gonna look to swap out Brand for another starter, they will probably promote Lavoy Allen to the starting role, with Vucevic as backup.
Holiday
Turner
Young
Allen
Hawes
Bench: Williams, Meeks, Vucevic (added FA's and draft picks)
Not bad. Probably another playoff club. Small market results.
totally forgot about Ilyasova, good call. I am pretty sure JJ Hickson is UFA as he was waived? Jason Thompson would be another good piece.
Hickson was picked up for his full contract price, making him restricted and a team option.
