Knicks · With the 48th Pick of the NBA 2012 Draft, the New York Knicks select...... (page 2)

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

mattshaw78 wrote:Jared Cunningham from Oregon St. "

- According to NBADRAFT.NET -

Gees Ive never seen him play but he looks like he has NBA lottery type skills--kind of looks like a young Ricard Jefferson. I usually catch most of the guys--never saw him once. I cant imagine that guy not going in round 1. His physical talent looks very very impressive---length athletic ability could stand to put on 10 pounds but can handle looks like he can drive pass shoot. What is the difference between him and Jeremy Lamb other than Lamb's jumpshot(although they did shoot a comparable 3 ball% wise) Im on board with this--but I doubt he lasts to where we pick. We'd have top get a late first round pick to get him and quietly promise him. No way no way no way is he going round 2. Greta find by the way Matt--really really good-looking player here.

Pac-10 guys always seem to get under evaluated by scouts year after year. He seems intriguing.
Here's a write up Fran Fraschilla did on him:
Jared Cunningham, Oregon State Beavers

Jared Cunningham spent almost all of his three years as a Beaver at shooting guard, but he had the ball in his hands in most key situations for Craig Robinson's team. So, given his physical attributes, including excellent speed and quickness coupled with better-than-average court vision, I think the 6-4 guard could increase his value to teams that think he can make the transition to point guard.

Notably, Cunningham thrived in screen-and-roll situations and in transition, where he accounted for 1.3 points per possession as a passer. And he turned it over on just 6 percent of his transition possessions, according to Synergy Sports. In addition, his elite athleticism accounted for more than seven free throw attempts a game the past two seasons because he attacks the basket.

As a bonus, Cunningham is one of the best perimeter defenders in this draft. His combination of quickness and anticipation gives him a chance to contribute eventually as a defensive stopper.

So, where are the holes in his game? To make a smooth transition to playing, at least part-time at the point, he must tighten his ball handling. And, although his outside shot is not broken, he must improve on the 34 percent he shot beyond the arc this season. Finally, like a lot of players making the transition to the NBA, he must get physically stronger.

Considering this draft is devoid of great point guard prospects, Cunningham will be a nice gamble later in the first round. At worst, he'll be a secondary ball handler who can defend both guard positions. But I think he's better than that.

This guy is a stud(no not the manly kind:)but this guy is a player. Id key on him if we could--this kid has lottery talent.

this guy could be our Sefalosha/Ariza/James Johnson with his reach and long arms, a nice compliment to Iman, and Tyson Chandler.
I would like to add another player, like a Taj Gibson, to go with that core.
I still like DJO, hopefully one would fall to us, with our 2nd round pick.

Crawder has a nice shot, but is undersized, I think these guys are much better than Fields at SG.
I would look at all these guys, if they fall out of the draft, offering them a contract with a MLE, for a 2-3 year team option.
We have to spend the rest of our $ very wisely, looking for the best options, while not overpaying for talent.
Taking a good look at players like

Terrence Williams
Johnny Flynn
Donte Green
Gerald Green

as well.

Using the rest of the MLE, LLE, Vet minimum With Vets like

Gary Neal
Patty Mills
Mike James

Ak47
Odom

Mahimi
Kenyon Martin

Omar Osik
Stimiensa
Hiddayhi
Ryan Hollins

Anji wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I would take [url="http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/51394/jae-crowder"]Jae Crowder[/url]

He's a PF that woudl have to play SG. Basically, Landry Fields replacement

Jae Crowder - 6'5
I know motor and toughness can make up for a lot, but I don't want a guard sized forward.

Knixkik wrote:

Anji wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I would take [url="http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/51394/jae-crowder"]Jae Crowder[/url]

He's a PF that woudl have to play SG. Basically, Landry Fields replacement

Jae Crowder - 6'5
I know motor and toughness can make up for a lot, but I don't want a guard sized forward.

Reminds a little too much of Pete Michael.

CrushAlot wrote:

Anji wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I would take [url="http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/51394/jae-crowder"]Jae Crowder[/url]

He's a PF that woudl have to play SG. Basically, Landry Fields replacement

Jae Crowder - 6'5
I know motor and toughness can make up for a lot, but I don't want a guard sized forward.

He measured well and has huge mitts like Kwahi Leonard. At 48 I think you have to consider him. Draftexpress has the Knicks taking Odom there which I think would be great. The Knicks have done an amazing job the past two years getting great value from second round picks.

Crowder can ball... he had a great NCAA tournament. I don't think you could realistically ask for a better prospect at #48. It's like everyone expects the Knicks to draft Manu Ginobili in the 2nd instead of Andy Rautins

Anji wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I would take [url="http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/51394/jae-crowder"]Jae Crowder[/url]

He's a PF that woudl have to play SG. Basically, Landry Fields replacement

Jae Crowder - 6'5
I know motor and toughness can make up for a lot, but I don't want a guard sized forward.

Valid. He would be undersized, even in spite of more favorite recent measurements. i do not think you can define this guy by a postion. That is not desireable if you are trying to draft a starter. But as a back up? He can shoot and he can rebound. personally, i'll take it

mattshaw78 wrote:Jared Cunningham from Oregon St. "

- According to NBADRAFT.NET -

NBA draft net just moved Cunningham into the first round at 27 and Darius Odom all the way into the low 30's. They usually are pretty close at the end.

There's controversy surrounding what happened that kept him out of games, but dude has skills, is a southern guy to match up vibe with Shump and Woody, and would be a great bench addition behind Melo.

I want to find a great defender athlete at #48.

I'm less worried about the kid fitting a position or fitting the norm for height/weight etc.

I just want some type of junk-yard dog like the kids from Marquette.

Tony Mitchell is intriguing because he's got that legit NBA SG size and athleticism but he has issues and his draft express interview was very poor in my opinion. Think I read he's a solid defender as well.

We need people to defend the likes of Rose, Wade, Rondo and Lebron --- we need more guys like Shump and Tyson.

LivingLegend wrote:Chad Ford lists Cunningham at #31 in his top 100 and draft express has him going #6 in the second round so the kid is no longer an unknown quantity --- but would love to have him at 48.

I want to find a great defender athlete at #48.

I'm less worried about the kid fitting a position or fitting the norm for height/weight etc.

I just want some type of junk-yard dog like the kids from Marquette.

Tony Mitchell is intriguing because he's got that legit NBA SG size and athleticism but he has issues and his draft express interview was very poor in my opinion. Think I read he's a solid defender as well.

We need people to defend the likes of Rose, Wade, Rondo and Lebron --- we need more guys like Shump and Tyson.

Yea, it was, but he's been dogged by questions of what happened. I think whatever team gets him will get a late steal. If he played that month he could be in the first round.

What if this Evan Fournier kid is still available? Gamble on him?

JohnStarksFan wrote:http://nbadraft.net/players/evan-fournier

What if this Evan Fournier kid is still available? Gamble on him?

I'm reading that Tomas Sataransky, the other big Euro perimeter player in this year's draft, might be the better pick. Either way, there's a good chance that one, if not both, of them will be available when we pick. I think Sataransky is probably more prepared to contribute right away.

misterearl wrote:David Stern: "Tomas Satoransky, Prague, Czech Republic..."

6'6, 207

(because we need guards)

Weaknesses: One-on-one game needs improvement for the NBA ... Lacks an in-between game (in between what?), his shot off the dribble is not very solid ... In general he’s not very good to create own shot (his job is to create for others)... Despite his strong body is not a good rebounder (we have Tyson and Shump for that)... Plays the PG position but may need to transition over the the 2 position for the NBA (sez who?)... Needs to become a little more assertive, (vocal leadership) particularly if he wants to play PG ...(can be fixed once he gets comfortable in NYC)

Strengths: Certainly one of the most complete guards of the young generation in Europe ... Tomas is a point guard with great size, excellent vision and ability to pass the ball ... Physically strong, allowing him to easily finish near the rim ... He is a good spot-up shooter, with range out to the three point line ... Shooting is not his first offensive option, but in the last Eurocup season he averaged 43% from the distance ... He's a smooth player with a quick first step and a strong ability to finish in traffic ... He also possesses standout athletic ability by European standards (he's a spectacular dunker!) ... He has a winning spirit, and always competes hard ... He is also a good defensive player because of his desire, athleticism and the versatility to defend multiple positions ...

- NBADraft.net

Long live the BBC.

BigDaddyG wrote:

misterearl wrote:David Stern: "Tomas Satoransky, Prague, Czech Republic..."

6'6, 207

(because we need guards)

Weaknesses: One-on-one game needs improvement for the NBA ... Lacks an in-between game (in between what?), his shot off the dribble is not very solid ... In general he’s not very good to create own shot (his job is to create for others)... Despite his strong body is not a good rebounder (we have Tyson and Shump for that)... Plays the PG position but may need to transition over the the 2 position for the NBA (sez who?)... Needs to become a little more assertive, (vocal leadership) particularly if he wants to play PG ...(can be fixed once he gets comfortable in NYC)

Strengths: Certainly one of the most complete guards of the young generation in Europe ... Tomas is a point guard with great size, excellent vision and ability to pass the ball ... Physically strong, allowing him to easily finish near the rim ... He is a good spot-up shooter, with range out to the three point line ... Shooting is not his first offensive option, but in the last Eurocup season he averaged 43% from the distance ... He's a smooth player with a quick first step and a strong ability to finish in traffic ... He also possesses standout athletic ability by European standards (he's a spectacular dunker!) ... He has a winning spirit, and always competes hard ... He is also a good defensive player because of his desire, athleticism and the versatility to defend multiple positions ...

- NBADraft.net

Long live the BBC.

My bad Earl. I didn't see that you already mentioned Sataransky

Younger Rubio again, not sure if we can afford to draft a player that cannot be part of our team?
He does look like he has some good upside though, especially at our pick.
Hope we can add some mid/late 2nd rounders.