Knicks · BREAKING!!! WE WIN BIRD RIGHTS CASE!!!!!! (page 3)
SlimChin@ 6/22/2012 3:34 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
SlimChin wrote:Nash and Kidd are too old. go for someone younger. as good as they are, i can see age catching up to them midway through the season.
go for Goran Dragić!
If Dragic will come for $5mill, cool. I'm pretty sure he'll get better offers...
still not sold on him. Nash is older but the guy is still in great shape and he has played well in phoenix with basically nobody the last 2 years
the medical staff in phoenix has Nash and Hill sipping from the fountain of youth. i'm just concerned he's going to break down early in NY.
smackeddog@ 6/22/2012 3:35 PM
MSG3 wrote:So it looks like if the Knicks decide to spend ove $3M of the mid level they'll have to operate under a hard cap of $74M all season. They won't be able to exceed that all seson for any reason including injury. That makes it very risky to spend the full $5M, which would likely be what it would take to get Nash. Kind of a bummer.
Larry Coon has said that a few times- but I don't remember them agreeing that in the cba. I'm probably wrong, but how come other teams with higher salaries than us (ie the Lakers) can sign FAs but we wouldn't be allowed to? Aren't we still allowed to sign players for the minimum salary and also draft picks?
callmened@ 6/22/2012 3:35 PM
wow...i cant believe this...i wasnt expecting this to happen!...i never thought id have a chance to say this...but GO GET NASH!!!..and odom!
nixluva@ 6/22/2012 3:36 PM
SlimChin wrote:Nash and Kidd are too old. go for someone younger. as good as they are, i can see age catching up to them midway through the season.
go for Goran Dragić!
This team is in win now mode and that to me says that we need Nash. Dragic is a very good player, but he's still learning. We need a PG that we know for a fact can lift a team and lead a team deep in the playoffs. Nash with the players we have could push us over the top IMO. He's in great shape and really plays more with his head than with some super athletic ability. He'll be able to play for a few more years at a high level. We can limit his minutes because of Lin and Lin can be mentored by the best!!!
IrishKnickFan@ 6/22/2012 3:38 PM
nixluva wrote:
SlimChin wrote:Nash and Kidd are too old. go for someone younger. as good as they are, i can see age catching up to them midway through the season.
go for Goran Dragić!
This team is in win now mode and that to me says that we need Nash. Dragic is a very good player, but he's still learning. We need a PG that we know for a fact can lift a team and lead a team deep in the playoffs. Nash with the players we have could push us over the top IMO. He's in great shape and really plays more with his head than with some super athletic ability. He'll be able to play for a few more years at a high level. We can limit his minutes because of Lin and Lin can be mentored by the best!!!
Exacly despite what some people say we have a small window to get this thing rolling i'd say 2-3 years. Getting nash speeds up the process and we need to win now because amare is breaking down and who knows how much tyson can take since he puts his body on the lin all the time
gunsnewing@ 6/22/2012 3:39 PM
I agree nalod and an even bigger no to rat allen. What a waste if the mle it would be tk sign another aging star only to have him blow out hus knee or back in year one and then collect from the knicks and count against the cap without ever playing another game. Sick of seeing these guys wearing their expensive suits on the end of the bench
ChuckBuck@ 6/22/2012 3:41 PM
nixluva wrote:
SlimChin wrote:Nash and Kidd are too old. go for someone younger. as good as they are, i can see age catching up to them midway through the season.
go for Goran Dragić!
This team is in win now mode and that to me says that we need Nash. Dragic is a very good player, but he's still learning. We need a PG that we know for a fact can lift a team and lead a team deep in the playoffs. Nash with the players we have could push us over the top IMO. He's in great shape and really plays more with his head than with some super athletic ability. He'll be able to play for a few more years at a high level. We can limit his minutes because of Lin and Lin can be mentored by the best!!!
Hey, if Nash can help Amare rediscover his game and at the same time give the ball to Melo in his sweet spot....
misterearl@ 6/22/2012 3:43 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
ChuckBuck with the Post of The Day as Ice Cube intones, "Today Was a Good Day"
Sign Lamar
gunsnewing@ 6/22/2012 3:47 PM
SlimChin wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
SlimChin wrote:Nash and Kidd are too old. go for someone younger. as good as they are, i can see age catching up to them midway through the season.
go for Goran Dragić!
If Dragic will come for $5mill, cool. I'm pretty sure he'll get better offers...
still not sold on him. Nash is older but the guy is still in great shape and he has played well in phoenix with basically nobody the last 2 years
the medical staff in phoenix has Nash and Hill sipping from the fountain of youth. i'm just concerned he's going to break down early in NY.
Bank on it
Nalod@ 6/22/2012 3:48 PM
I'd like to have some size in the front court. A back up besides JJ and Jorts might be nice.
Injuries are going t happen. Tyson and Amare will miss games. JJ and Jorts are a big drop off.
ChuckBuck@ 6/22/2012 3:48 PM
MSG3@ 6/22/2012 3:49 PM
VCoug wrote:
MSG3 wrote:NBA is going to appeal the decision.
Who could they appeal to? My understanding of arbitration is that it is supposed to be binding unless the arbitrator is not neutral.
I sure hope that's the case. But the League said they were going to appeal. I just hope that the ruling stands at the begining of free agency. If this takes a while free agents are going to run for the guaranteed money.
IrishKnickFan@ 6/22/2012 3:50 PM
i just hope we dont get screwed. I know the NBA will appeal we know Stern hs used hi power to screw over people like the lotter,chris paul trade. It would be worse if this was taken away from us other than losing the case outright
ChuckBuck@ 6/22/2012 3:51 PM
Nalod wrote: I'd like to have some size in the front court. A back up besides JJ and Jorts might be nice.
Injuries are going t happen. Tyson and Amare will miss games. JJ and Jorts are a big drop off.
MSG3@ 6/22/2012 3:51 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:i just hope we dont get screwed. I know the NBA will appeal we know Stern hs used hi power to screw over people like the lotter,chris paul trade. It would be worse if this was taken away from us other than losing the case outright
Larry Coon says he *thinks ruling stands until or unless it's overturned. So we better get a lot done shortly after free agency begins if the appeal is still unsettled.
BigDaddyG@ 6/22/2012 3:57 PM
SlimChin wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
SlimChin wrote:Nash and Kidd are too old. go for someone younger. as good as they are, i can see age catching up to them midway through the season.
go for Goran Dragić!
If Dragic will come for $5mill, cool. I'm pretty sure he'll get better offers...
still not sold on him. Nash is older but the guy is still in great shape and he has played well in phoenix with basically nobody the last 2 years
the medical staff in phoenix has Nash and Hill sipping from the fountain of youth. i'm just concerned he's going to break down early in NY.
Fountain of youth? Is that what they're calling HGH these days
crzymdups@ 6/22/2012 4:00 PM
if the knicks are able to use their full MLE, I'd sign Jamal Crawford or Lamar Odom.
nixluva@ 6/22/2012 4:03 PM
The NBA still has a soft cap, but you just get penalized if you've already hit the Luxury Tax Threshold. If you're over the 74 mil then you lose the $5 mil MLE and only get $3 mil. The Knicks seem to be in a reasonable spot cap wise:
Knixkik@ 6/22/2012 4:05 PM
Huge win! We shouldn't focus on PGs with this. We need a true SG who can shoot lights out. Ray Allen would be the first choice, but there are other guys like Bellineli and Courtney Lee that could also fit.
Bonn1997@ 6/22/2012 4:06 PM
crzymdups wrote:if the knicks are able to use their full MLE, I'd sign Jamal Crawford or Lamar Odom.
Crawful is a poor man's JR Smith
Caseloads@ 6/22/2012 4:08 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
The whole finals, I kept thinking, if only Novak was able to hit treys in the first round vs. Miami the way the Battier and Mike Miller played in the finals. Why didn't the Thunder close out on Battier and Miller, the way the Heat closed out on Novak in the playoffs. Really do not understand OKC's inability to defend the three point line. The Heat were outstanding at nullifying Novak, and never left him open.
Otherwise, why didn't they put Ibaka on James? Someone bigger to defend, since Harden was way too small. The Thunder, Durant and Harden in particular, need to beef up. No more looking like you've never done any weight training. These guys need to grow up and bulk up.
